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Anonymous Goes After Donald Trump
HughPickens.com writes: CBS reports that hot on the heels of its campaign against ISIS, the shadowy hackers' collective known as Anonymous is going after a new target: Donald Trump. The latest Anonymous operation — #OpTrump — was announced in a YouTube video featuring a masked activist claiming to speak for the group. In a computer-generated voice, he takes aim at Trump's proposed ban on Muslims entering the United States, claiming "This is what ISIS wants." He goes on to say that "the more the United States appears to be targeting Muslims, not just radical Muslims," the more ISIS will be able to recruit sympathizers. The video concludes with Anonymous' now-familiar threat: "You have been warned, Mr. Donald Trump. We are Anonymous. We are Legion. We do not forgive. Expect us."
After a video message was posted, the website of Trump Tower in New York City went down for at least an hour. However the campaign has yet to have much success. Despite the group's apparent distributed-denial-of-service attack, which aimed to take down a web server by flooding it with fake traffic, the Trump Tower website was up and running by 11 a.m. and the alleged damage might not have been apparent, to visitors to the page, because a cached version of Trump's site was programmed to hold the fort in the event of an attack or maintenance issues.
After a video message was posted, the website of Trump Tower in New York City went down for at least an hour. However the campaign has yet to have much success. Despite the group's apparent distributed-denial-of-service attack, which aimed to take down a web server by flooding it with fake traffic, the Trump Tower website was up and running by 11 a.m. and the alleged damage might not have been apparent, to visitors to the page, because a cached version of Trump's site was programmed to hold the fort in the event of an attack or maintenance issues.
By bringing his building's website down? What a joke. If they wanted to do some real harm they would release private documents showing something damning. These are teenagers using a ddos not hacktivists.
Doesn't anonymous usually attack groups that legal processes can't/won't stop? We have a process to stop Trump, it's called "Voting". Maybe anonymous should stay out of it.
Anonymous declares war on city of Orlando (28/Jun/2011)
Anonymous vs. Zetas: Hackers Taking On The Drug Cartel (02/Nov/2011)
Anonymous wages war on Westboro Baptist Church (17/Dez/2012)
Anonymous Declares War on Singapore (06/Nov/2013)
Given the fallback on the last weeks hoax declaration of war on ISIS by Mexican cartel leader 'El Chapo' the media is showing that the powers of "the fourth state" given to them is not being used to inform the public but to entertain them, distracting from more important issues (and of course, to sell advertisement).
Seriously, this bunch of retarded brain dead script kiddies believe they have a right to attack anyone else's website because they do not agree with him? They should all be catched and jailed as far as I am concerned. They are totally anti-democratic and equivalent to any evil dictatorship in this world. They do not deserve the media attention they get. Even their attacks are lame.
If all the polls are saying that the side of justice is going to lose, then should you resort to force? After reason has failed, what else can you do against such reckless hate? Do you agree or disagree with the sentiment quoted above?
By the way, this is a real quote, posted by an ACLU Board Member. He was forced to resign but will face no legal issues from his incitement to shoot people who disagree with his political opinions.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
There seems to be a bit of a disconnect with regards to 'Anonymous', the idea that "activist claiming to speak for the group", is false. Anyone can and does speak anonymously for 'Anonymous" if they so choose, there is no 'claim' about it, it is fact. The only time people make claims about 'Anonymous' is when they do it publicly and not anonymously 'Anonymous'. Do it anonymously and they are just as 'Anonymous', as any one else ;). Donald Trump certainly is becoming a famous lesson for what not to become, hmm, chemical cocktails to an excess?
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its quite simple. if you get your enemy to fight amongst themselves and demonise the the ordinary muslims, you can create instability and hatred. they are hoping this will convince the ordinary muslims to turn into fundamentalists and start the fight within. All Trump is doing is giving the closet racists a voice and a chance to re-enforce their bigotry under the cloak of "so called" acceptability. Unfortunately the bigots don't quite understand this tactic, a bit like the ordinary germans didn't understand the same scare tactics of their leaders until it was too late..
:- (1893-1946) Commander-in-Chief of the Luftwaffe, President of the Reichstag, Prime Minister of Prussia and, as Hitler's designated successor, the second man in the Third Reich. [Göring]
"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
by: Hermann Goering
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
Trump's playing by the rules Obama set, plus a few of his own.
Trump's rules include a fairly standard negotiating tactic- demand 3x what you want, so when the dust settles, you've got about what you wanted. He's also 'assuming the sale.' I don't wish to see him as president, but he's giving a (admittedly bombastic) voice to legitimate concerns many Americans have. The American left is used to being able to shout down politically inconvenient discussions by shouting "RACIST!", Trump simply says 'F you' and moves on. People love that.
As for following Obama's rules, I'll just quote a recent article: (Paywalled; my apologies)
Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be the name of a store, not a government agency.
The republicans should have long ago left the right out in the cold and come center (fiscally conservative, small government, socially progressive), they would've enjoyed a great deal more support than the religious right can provide
Those are the positions of the Libertarian Party, which typically gets less than 1% of the vote. You are vastly overestimating the level of support for small government and personal freedom. The Republican Party currently has their largest congressional majority since before the Great Depression. 2/3rds of governors are Republican, and most state legislatures are also dominated by Republicans. Pandering to social conservatives and authoritarians has been enormously successful.
" Uneducated supporters " Allow me another explanation if I may. Perhaps Trump supporters are well versed in what the status quo politician does once in office. Perhaps they are tired of voting for what is supposed to be different candidates, only to realize that, yet again, once in office their candidate is merely a clone of the previous administrations ideals. The only way to shake the system up, is to start by not voting in the very same people that want to keep it that way. Nothing scares the two parties more than a potential third party candidate since it effectively says " We the people are quite tired of your bullshit games. " I read on /. all the damn time about how it's the voters fault for re-electing the same clowns that are responsible for where we are today. Yet, when folks are considering deviating from that course, they get nothing but a ration of shit from the very same people because they're not voting for candidate X or Y.
Considering the candidate field and past experience with the typical bought and paid for politicians we currently have, I'm more than willing to give Trump his shot. Seriously, do you think he can possibly to any worse than another Bush ? Clinton ? or Obama ?
I don't care if hes arrogant, condecending or otherwise unpleasant in how he deals with people. If he gets the job done, that's all I give a damn about.
To do so, you have to be direct and to the point. Kissing everyones ass for re-election prospects is how we currently do business and that, more than anything else, needs to change if this country ever wants to be taken seriously again.
Personally I hate the word progressive. It's a label that somebody applies to themselves when they think they've figured out the right answers to everything, and that only their opinion is the way forward. It's a very smug, asshole way of thinking. Examples of groups that have applied the "progressive" label to themselves include prohibitionists and fascists.
(BTW, I self identify as libertarian.)
The republican position says that small government is the American ideal - except with regard to abortion, prostitution, pornography, government-sponsored events to tell citizens who, how and when they should be worshiping, gambling, and a ton of others. They used to push hard for action at the federal level to prevent states from recognising gay marriage - until the supreme court ruling on the issue, at which point they declared that marriage was a state matter and the federal government was overstepping its bounds by regulating that.
The real republican position is almost identical to the democrat position: Politics is expensive. Appeal to voters where possible, but exercise caution not to upset the wealthy and corporate donors that provide the money for political campaigning.
Even those-formerly-known-as-progressive are abandoning the term now, seeing it has become associated with super-feminists and social justice activists who have no respect for free speech and a tendency towards extremism.
I agree with this. The best part of Trump is he is causing honest discussions about issues important to US citizens (funny to hear someone say that?)
Before Trump talking about closing the border to Mexico was not allowed. If you even suggested deporting a single illegal you were branded a racist. Now we are talking about if it is possible to close the border, if it is possible to deport the illegals, how much it would cost, what are the repercussions, etc. Before Trump you couldn't see a debate like that, which is funny because everyone keeps saying he is so dumb.
Stopping Muslim immigrants until they can be vetted properly. Sounds reasonable to me, but I'm told I'm a bigot for agreeing with that. Now I find out Jimmy Carter did nearly the EXACT same thing with Iran. Is Carter a bigot? Or instead of the right going extreme right has the left gone extreme left. It appears that the left has gone extreme if you look at facts like this.
Yea, people don't like Trump because he is forcing honest debates about issues the left doesn't want talked about because they know they are on the losing side of it.
I like hearing these debates that Trump has made possible. Can he deport all the illegals? Sounds like no, but before he came along we weren't even allowed to talk about trying to do that. Closing the border with Mexico, is that possible? Sounds like yes, but that once again was a debate we were not allowed to hear about before Trump.
As much as they don't like him, he has brought back actual debate on REAL ISSUES.
It is a fact that Trump does poll very low among Republicans with college degrees, somwhat better with Republicans who have a high school diploma, and very well among those who do not have a diploma. This is not an opinion. His supporters are in fact the uneducated, by and large.
The republican position says that small government is the American ideal - except with regard to ...
Also ethanol subsidies, fossil fuel subsidies, farm subsidies, massive funding for the military industrial complex, massive funding for the War on Drugs, etc. In other words, they don't actually support small government at all. That makes sense, since small government rhetoric wins votes, but small government policies do not.
This is an absolutely false equivalence.
Not to say that Jimmy Carter made the right call there - I personally am liberal enough to think he probably did not, and likely would have been pretty upset with the decision, as I am with many decisions President Obama has made - but it is absolutely not the same thing. We are NOT in a state of military conflict with the entire religion of Islam, as we were with Iran at the time. If you believe that we are, then THAT is the problem.
You could use this move as an argument to reject Syrian visas and expel Syrian diplomats if you want. Except we already did. We severed relationships and closed our embassy in 2012. Officially they can still apply for immigration visas, but we've essentially made the process impossible. Obviously, we are (sort of) accepting refugees, but they are thoroughly vetted to make sure they are not connected either to the Syrian government or Isis, both of which we are in conflict with. So... yeah. We're already doing everything Carter did, pretty much. Have been for years. And refugees were allowed in from Iran during the Carter period too - one of your quotes specifically says "except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons".
Assuming all people who believe in the religion of Islam are at war with our country is a completely wrongheaded idea that can and should be met with anger and disgust. (Though probably not computer-based terrorism of our own. Let's just vote against Trump and continue to try to overwhelm his narrative with one of reasonable people who are doing their best not to be bigoted.)
We all that it is only a matter of time before the Trump mask comes off and we find out that it has really been Andy Kaufman all this time. Wake up people!
Pandering to social conservatives and authoritarians has been enormously successful.
Being correct (and practical) doesn't work. The Democrats need to grow up and start lying. The ideal Democrat is Jimmy Carter. Great man, bad president. The ideal Republican is Reagan. Alzheimer's, and senile, but a good orater, and told us who to hate and why.
The Libertarians are not a party. The official LP documentation indicates the LP is pro-choice, as the government shouldn't be dictatorial in choices like that. But every LP candidate I've seen with an official abortion stance was anti-choice. When the pro-choice party runs only anti-choice candidates, how can they be taken seriously when they can't even find candidates that believe in their own platform? And no, I don't need the list of pro-choice candidates ever run by the LP. I've been to party meetings and tried to get involved in politics and seen who ended up running, and watched those running in races near me. They were universally anti-choice, but I've usually lived in "red states", so perhaps that's the issue.
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What I tell you three times is true:
Islam is not a country. Iran is not a religion.
Learn the difference, and stop polluting your brain with nonsense from Infowars.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Ah yes, the long list of lies. Bill Clinton lied. He lied when he truthfully said he didn't touch Monica's vagina (effectively the specific question he was asked, after "sex" was clarified). And Hillary lied because Benghazi. There were more hearings on her emails than 9/11, and still no direct lies uncovered.
But Trump says he will ban all Muslims from entering the US, even returning US citizens, then re-states to say only non-citizens. And claims he never said he'd ban "all" or citizens, even when faced with recordings of him saying it.
The Democrats need to outline eloaborate lies. Like Fair Tax, a pile of lies, fabricated by insane people as to a wish of what they hope would happen, without any basis in reality for the revenue and expenses. Single payer health care, like England's, is much cheaper than private health care, and with better results. Why aren't the Democrats pushing for single-payer as the next step after ACA? A federal insurance company, started now, and listed on the insurance exchanges of all 50 states, operating at 50% of the cost of all the private insurers, and showing a profit would cut taxes and improve care. Any missing details? Make them up, and make them good.
But no, we get reality. Gun control statistics nobody cares about. You can't argue someone out of religion with facts, and gun-nut is a religion. The cure for religion, is another religion, not facts. But the Democratic Party doesn't see that and attack dogma with dogma, so they always lose.
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