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Strict New Security Measures Put In Place For CES 2016 Attendees (cepro.com)
CIStud writes: Due to the recent terror events, the Consumer Technology Association is instituting drastic new security measures for attendees coming to the International Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas from Janury 5-9, 2016. Attendees will be subject to metal detector screening and bomb-sniffing dogs, but the biggest potential bottleneck is that laptop computer bags are being discouraged. Bags with wheels will not even be allowed.
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*sigh*
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Wait a minute, I just looked through the list of security checks and I do not recall seeing any mention of a mandatory penis inspection.
Is this not a huge security risk? My understanding is that a penis can be used as a dangerous weapon. Should not penises be banned from the venue?
if its a credible threat, shouldn't the event be canceled.
if its not credible why the drama.
Didn't they try that at COMDEX one year? I think they caught hell fo rit.
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Will the metal detector near the video game section be called the "Gamer Gate"?
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Let's shit on nerds.
What are they going to do when the terrorists realize that the long queues waiting to get through the security checkpoints are a ripe target?
I am probably over-reacting, but this does seem to be a little over the top? What next CES 2017, where only Hamish approved technology is permitted or lithium free access?
Jumpstart the tartan drive.
What is wrong with bags with wheels?
Searching bags will take time, but I would think the biggest bottleneck will be the body pat downs.
No really. Why?
It's an electronics show you idiots.
back in the las vegas mob days they made it so that there will no need for BS like this.
Just secure it with https! (Jokes about public key infrastructure optional) No one ever got a bomb through that. If you want things to be secure: don't have things onsite that are vulnerable.
Why the fuck would you need a back with wheels?
also, Defcon is canceled
The absurdities people will tolerate astounds me. I suppose this is a good exscuse to check out one of the many GNU/Linux events though that go on. Might not be quite the same thing, but at least I won't be molested at entry.
And a total waste of time. But people have to feel safe, so why not?
Imagine getting patted down or bodyscanned before entering Wal-Mart during the holday shopping season (after the 2017 Black Friday terrorist bombings and shootings in Ft. Lauderdale, Boise, and Albequerque.)
Sounds like the terrorists are winning.
Especially for the women, amirite?
There are well over a million incidents of violent crime in the US every year including four 9/11's of people killed each and every year. Yet people elect to freak out about rounding errors... Could his have anything at all to do with 24x7 terrorism propaganda being piped out of the media?
Millions of people are treated at hospitals for falls every year roughly another four 9/11s worth of death by falling each and every year. Nobody spends any time reporting on falls or murders of random "unimportant" people.
The people who WANT YOU to be AFRAID are the Media and the Government because fear increases viewership and makes those governed by "consent" more willing to cede power to government.
Meanwhile CES is busy creating unnecessary bottlenecks where people who have not been checked for WMD will mass in the name of safety for their own protection.
You mean the daily gun violence? This isn't new behavior, why change security now? The last shooting wasn't even a terrorist attack, it was 2 fucking crazy extremists who acted on their own craziness. No terrorist groups involved. Do people still not understand that changing policy based on fear is exactly what terrorist's objectives are?
Not saying extra security is a bad idea per se but if you replace one juicy target with another then it's not really solving the problem. If some crazy detonates their bomb in the queue for screening then they still achieve the same purpose as if they got inside.
I guess it wouldn't be a good idea for a show venue to push itself as "da bomb" next year.
I was at CES for the last several years in a row, I just stopped going last year...
There is no way on earth with the huge numbers of people at CES that you can manage even the most rudimentary screening. Every single person is going to have at least a cellphone so it's not like you can even have a no-bag bypass line that just swims through a metal detector quickly.
They honestly would be smarter to recommend that attendees come armed with concealed weapons. Then an attacker could never be sure if any given crown would counterattack.
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My bags have half-tracks. Is that allowed or do I have to convert the remaining wheels to tracks so my bags are fully tracked?
What about two-legged bags and four-legged bags?
The only clothing allowed is skin tight and revealing. Yes, even you, hairy guy with a gut who used to ogle the booth bunnies. How's that working for ya?
What is wrong with bags with wheels?
Lawyers.
Bags with wheels in a professional context usually means lawyers going to a mediation, arbitration, or trial.
I've never been to CES, and now there's less reason to go there in the future.
Aren't most terrorists well funded?
You can set yourself up with an amazing booth, including pamphlets, a fake company that's been around for 6 months, and a whole bunch of backstory, etc., etc., for about $150,000 (actual booth rental is only about $20K-$30K, the rest is just window dressing).
And at that price it includes paying the union guys to haul in your bombs for you from the truck, and more union guys to plug it in for you, in case you don't know how plugs work.
Security theater much?
That's certainly enough to keep me away this year.
CES is often the place where companies claim to have on display various products that will obsolete the laptop as we know it and free out minds and bodies from having to sit at a desk and work. And the media, bloggers, reporters and web podcast network people lap it up and spew it back at their listening and reading audiences as if these gadgets (and there is a new iteration every year!) will change the goddamn world.
Well.
Put up or shut up. Show us you really CAN report on a tradeshow for your semi-known blog using nothing more than a smartphone or tablet. Film it, take pictures, edit both, and write a script or blog post with one of these magical devices that you tell the public can do all these things and more every damn year. DO IT!
Or shut the hell up about how teh awesome things are in the mystical land of CES gadgets that won't actually ever make it to market. Or is that just the junk that appears in Showstoppers? I can't remember. So much bullshit every year, it all blurs together.
Prediction for CES: there will be lots of iPhone cases. Because dammit there just aren't enough.
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How are they going to search the vendors? Will CES booths now be limited to Hanimex slide projectors?
Let me guess, the event organizers got a bomb threat, or the insurance underwriter has demanded CYA practices.
None of this security theater matters. All someone has to to is bring a bomb vest to the entry line at CES and wait for it to be super crowded at the detector and then detonate while in the middle of the yet-to-be-screened crowd.
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I actually think it rather depends on the point they are attempting to make.
If their point was simply "you are not safe", then yes, such attacks would make sense, and we'd have more attacks like the Boston Marathon bombings.
If their point was retaliation for things like the drone strike which killed "Jihadi John", then we'd see more like the San Bernardino and Paris attacks.
If their point was "your government has put security in place, yet they can not protect you", then we'd see more attacks like 9/11 and the London Underground bombings.
If their intent was to crash the U.S. economy, there are a number of ways that could be easily achieved. If it were to crash the U.S. and European economies, there's a number of ways that could be achieved as well. It's pretty clear that there are several factors in play, and it's pretty clear there are several factors and directions occurring simultaneously.
An attack intentionally perpetrated through existing security, such as 9/11-style attacks, are clearly intent on government destabilization. This is a tactic frequently used by fanatics, who believe that the people will rise up against their government, "if only they can be shown the truth!". One definition of a fanatics is "someone who does what God would do in the same situation, if only God were aware of all the facts". If your experience is with weakly coherent coalitions of competing factions, then you tend to believe that everyone is like that, and you perpetrate these types of attacks, in the hopes that you will show your enemy the error of their ways. Obviously, this is not something that works on strong coalitions, and even less so on homogeneous systems with built in damping mechanisms, such as democracies.
An attack perpetrated for vengeance is a knee-jerk reaction. It's understandable, but it's knee-jerk. "Jihadi John" started with the beheadings, primarily as a propaganda move; the decapitation of the propaganda machine that represented by the drone strike which killed him; the retaliation on Paris, which was close by and with assets in place; the massive increase in bombings of ISIS targets in retaliation for Paris; the shootings in San Bernardino in retaliation for the bombings, to show that the reach was not limited, coupled with a statement to that effect. All action and reaction. It may or may not be counter to the overall strategy, but it tends to be a chain with a limited number of links, and is not overall disruptive of anything but timelines, particularly if they use up assets you had planned to use on something else.
An attack perpetrated for chaos sake is done by well-wishers of the terrorists, without an understanding of the underlying motivations for their acts, and thus of their strategy behind them. These are the crowd bombings, and the message "you are not safe" contradicts the message "your government has put security in place, yet they can not protect you". If no one can protect you, then certainly you can not blame the government, and even if further acts are perpetrated through security systems, which we all largely recognize as being theatrical in nature, the population is immunized against blaming the government. This is actually counter to the goals of the highly organized attacks, and undermines their organizations.
I don't think the point is general chaos, I think it's regime destabilization; and while I don't think it will work, it's pretty clearly the intended effect.
To that end, actually one of the worst possible things we could do, in order to put their plan "back on track" is to set up a situation whereby (A) the government makes a public promise of protection, and (B) fails to be able to keep that promise, in a rather big way. I put the finger
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They freaking are everywhere, and clog up all the aisles and corridors. If you have a booth - show your stuff there, distribute information digitally (rather than phonebook-sized catalogs). And if you're there to show your wares to people in booths - freaking pony up the $10K and get a booth yourself.
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