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Meet the Scientist Who Injected Himself With 3.5 Million-Year-Old Bacteria (vice.com)

Press2ToContinue writes with this profile of Anatoli Brouchkov, a scientist who isn't afraid to take an extremely hands-on approach to science. Vice reports: "Anatoli Brouchkov is a soft-spoken guy with silver hair, and when he lets out a reserved chuckle, his eyes light up like he was belly laughing. If you met him on the street, you'd never guess that he once injected himself with a 3.5 million-year-old strain of bacteria, just to see what would happen. According to Brouchkov, Bacillus F has a mechanism that has enabled it to survive for so long beneath the ice, and that the same mechanism could be used to extend human life, too—perhaps, one day, forever. In tests, Brouchkov says the bacteria allowed female mice to reproduce at ages far older than typical mice. Fruit flies, he told the Siberian Times, also experienced a 'positive impact' from exposure to the bacteria."

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  1. So he's a crank? by Eunuchswear · · Score: 5, Insightful

    According to Brouchkov, Bacillus F has a mechanism that has enabled it to survive for so long beneath the ice, and that the same mechanism could be used to extend human life, too—perhaps, one day, forever.

    Nutter.

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    1. Re: So he's a crank? by DThorne · · Score: 2

      Yup. Plus, he's making the story about himself rather than the science - it's pretty obvious he's had one too many screenings of The Fly.

    2. Re:So he's a crank? by Bengie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Since something like 99.99% of bacteria is harmless to humans and this bacteria predates humans, he just wanted to see how quickly his immune system would destroy it.

    3. Re:So he's a crank? by Immerman · · Score: 2

      Or mere exposure to the bacteria has potential beneficial effects, which would seem likely considering the results with mice and fruit flies.

      Keep in mind that our bodies are roughly 97% bacteria by cell count, if only a few percent by mass, and we're only just beginning to understand the symbiotic benefits beyond digestion. Until quite recently we operated under the assumption that the bacteria that colonize us were primarily infectious parasites, and only recently have mainstream scientists begun to seriously investigate the potential beneficial effects. It's still an almost entirely unexplored realm of biology.

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  2. And what super power did he get? by oldgunpraa · · Score: 2

    Sounds like it's gonna make a good Marvel comics.

    1. Re:And what super power did he get? by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 2

      He plans on moving to Japan?

  3. Russians by Crowd+Computing · · Score: 5, Funny

    Russian roulette, vodka, communism, zombie bacteria, Vladimir Putin -- Russians really know how to take risks.

    1. Re:Russians by vikingpower · · Score: 4, Funny

      No generalized health insurance, the NRA, limitless capitalism, sugar in nearly all processed foods, Trump, the Bushes - Americans really know how to take risks.

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    2. Re: Russians by MrKaos · · Score: 4, Insightful

      America is doomed.

      America can only be saved by the people who love it. People who cherish freedom and the ideals of democracy and who are prepared to defend it. Your political parties are two different arms of the same political parties. You are deluded if you think left and right politics even exists anymore.

      Franklin predicted that the downfall of the American dream of democracy world come from the corruption of the people. This is not to say that the people are corrupt, even when many are. What it means is that the people have been corrupted (access to education, healthcare, employment, media) so they can be incrementally cheated out of the right to democracy, with their rights progressively converted to capital.

      Your most dangerous enemies are your domestic enemies who control money and power. I hope you can sort it out, I miss the nice America.

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    3. Re: Russians by ComputerGeek01 · · Score: 2

      Yeah I think I have read all I need to to write you off as a nutjob...

      Dismissal and Ad-Hominum attacks instead of dialog, the sign of a true progressive. I don't like Trump and I think he'd be the worst president our country has ever seen. But at the same time, as a New Yorker, I can tell you that between HIllary Clinton and people committing welfare fraud, the later is a better use of US tax dollars. This woman literally accomplished nothing for her entire term in the New York Senate and the only time you'll see her name behind some committee or senate vote is after it has hit national headlines. And here you knuckle-heads are talking about voting her into presidential office? Why, so that America can be seen as progressive by electing a female president? We have bigger things to worry about than the worthless opinions of some stuck up isolationist countries who have next to zero influence on the world stage. Who's the real nut-job here?

  4. Too unique by GbrDead · · Score: 5, Funny

    > If you met him on the street, you'd never guess that he once injected himself with a 3.5 million-year-old strain of bacteria...

      Well, I wouldn't guess this for anybody.

    1. Re:Too unique by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh, that's Donald Trump.

  5. Re:Enough with the space shit by MrKaos · · Score: 2

    I always wondered what is the purpose of spreading the disease, that the humanity is, further and further - there is none except our need to keep alive and for some to reproduce as much as the available vaginas hold.

    Fuck dude, stay away from razorblades and balconies on tall buildings.

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  6. Re:Who cares? by ray-auch · · Score: 2

    To disguise the fact that the rest of it is inconsequential shit...

    Similar to Sirius Cybernetics Corp products - their fundamental design flaws are completely hidden by their superficial design flaws.

  7. Re:Enough with the space shit by GrumpySteen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Found the mopey goth teen who can't get laid.

  8. Re:Enough with the space shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I always wondered what is the purpose of spreading the disease, that the humanity is, further and further

    That is what all life does. Why should we be any different?

    And why do you think it needs to have a purpose? It simply is.

  9. Re:America by vikingpower · · Score: 3, Informative

    No generalized health insurance - Good. Why should I, someone who takes good care of his body, fund the risky behaviours of others who don't? Although I agree that congenital disorders should be

    Why you should ? For two reasons: 1) You, too, may become the victim of a gruesome disease or a bad accident 2)Because it is a moral thing, for the stronger, to help the weaker.

    the NRA - Like it or not, there are too many guns in the USA to get rid of them. Of you try, the police and criminals will be the only ones with guns, and that's certainly not a good thing. Also, the NRA's existence means we have great freedom of speech laws, unlike Europe, which is going the PC censorship route

    This is a classic argument against change: "Proposed change is not perfect, so let's rather do nothing". Moreover, here in Europe, with strict gun regulation, indeed only "police and criminals" have guns, and we have no school shootings. As for the NRA's existence guaranteeing "great freedom of speech", I won't even bend over the edge of such bottomless stupidity in order to try and see a rational argument there.

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  10. Re:America by Minupla · · Score: 2

    No generalized health insurance - Good. Why should I, someone who takes good care of his body, fund the risky behaviours of others who don't? Although I agree that congenital disorders should be

    Because you're a moral person?
    Or you believe in a religion that says you should care for those less fortunate then you?
    Or you are completely self-interest driven and are so full of yourself to be sure sure bad things can't happen to you but would prefer not to be mugged for money by someone who happens to be less lucky then you and is willing to risk his life to get enough cash to pay for his treatment?

    Or because you believe in living longer. Here's a link to look at: http://theincidentaleconomist.... - spoiler alert: The US spends the most in health care and gets a life expectancy equivalent to Czechoslovakia.

    One of those reasons?

    Min

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  11. Re:I haven't had flu in years either by GrumpySteen · · Score: 4, Informative

    The bacteria in question is a strain of Bacillus Cerus. Some strains of Bacillus Cerus cause food poisoning, but others are used as a probiotic to reduce the incidence of salmonella in farm animals intestines. We already know that the intestinal biome of animals can have a serious affect on the animals' health, so the idea that this strain could be beneficial is completely plausible.

    As far as this bacteria being an extremophile? Not so much. Baccilus Cerus undergoes sporulation when conditions are unfavorable. Spores are difficult to kill. Leaving behind spores when you die so that a new generation can arise when conditions are more favorable isn't the same as thriving in an extreme environment. If it was, humans would have to be classed as extremophiles too because we can freeze an embryo and implant it later.

  12. Highlander: Origins by dywolf · · Score: 2

    There can be only one.

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  13. Million-year-old bacteria is one thing by hackertourist · · Score: 3, Funny

    but how did he manage to inject exactly 3.5 of them?

    1. Re:Million-year-old bacteria is one thing by NotInHere · · Score: 4, Funny

      He injected 3.5 million bacteria, each of them year-old. You are reading it wrongly.

  14. Re:Enough with the space shit by Bengie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Low population growth typically indicates an educated populace, low infant mortality, and a high cost to rear children because of a high cost of living caused by a luxury economy.

  15. I assume, crazily, it was a guy. by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

    Can't he just rub his penis just to see what would happen, like everybody else?

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  16. Re:Enough with the space shit by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...there is none except our need to keep alive and for some to reproduce as much as the available vaginas hold.

    We must be in trouble because the last time I viewed a video on human reproduction, the males were trying to reproduce in all the holes of the female.

  17. Infect the rest of us? by vpness · · Score: 2

    I'm not slightly medically knowledgeable, but I'm wondering if this guy thought through that he could have infected the rest of us from stuff our bodies had no defenses? Like smallpox and the indigenous tribes in the Americas. I'm fine with him killing himself in the name of science (think Curie), but this strikes me as a little too cowboy.

  18. Re: America by vikingpower · · Score: 2

    Here you are. As an intelligent person, you'll certainly not fail to notice that, after most Central- and South American countries, the USA tops the list - by far.

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  19. Get the science right! by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Actually I very much doubt that since almost all the elements above helium and up to iron were formed in the hearts of stars and so are a lot younger than the Big Bang. For the trace elements above iron in your food we actually have evidence that they were created in a supernova about 6 billion years ago. So other than the hydrogen, which makes up only a tiny proportion of your food by weight, most of the atoms are likely to be considerably younger than 14 billion years and formed in the hearts of stars not in the Big Bang.

    1. Re:Get the science right! by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 2

      But the protons are.

      That depends on where you find the proton. Protons in the lighter nuclei (below iron) probably do date back to the Big Bang since they come from ordinary stars and fusion generates proton-rich nuclei which decay by positron emission. However Supernovae, which create the elements beyond iron, are thought to create these elements by neutron absorption which creates neutron rich nuclei. The neutrons in these nuclei will then decay to protons via beta decay so some of these protons will have the same age as the nucleus itself.

      And how can you tell the age of a single atom?

      You can't but, for unstable nuclei if you know the relative abundance at creation e.g. in a Supernova, the relative abundance now and the lifetimes of the different nuclei you can determine when the event which created them took place. This technique, applied to two different Uranium isotopes, is how the age of the Supernova which gave Earth her heavy elements, was determined.

  20. Re:Enough with the space shit by swillden · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Low population growth typically indicates an educated populace, low infant mortality, and a high cost to rear children because of a high cost of living caused by a luxury economy.

    More like population density without resource constraints.

    In mice, and other animals who don't have either the means nor the motive to rationally plan their families.

    Humans have rather different dynamics, and the GP's statement is correct. It's very easy to show that as infant mortality declines and wealth rises, parents choose to have fewer children and invest much more in them. This is why the first world is already at negative population growth. In some parts of northern Europe the population decline is becoming a problem, to the degree that, for example, the Danish government has been running an advertising campaign to encourage people to have children.

    The population of the US would be shrinking, but immigration is keeping it growing by about 2M people per year. There are only about 1M immigrants per year, but first-generation immigrants tend to have larger families which props up the birth rate. However, the net growth rate is declining and assuming current trends remain unchanged the US will hit zero growth in about 30 years and then population will begin to decrease. The assumption that current trends continue is a pretty big one though, given the massive changes we have coming in that time frame, as automation increases dramatically. Climate change may have some effect as well.

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  21. Re:And here we go by bobbied · · Score: 2

    I'm with you, both are stupid stunts with little scientific value. However, a manned mission to Mars would spur on development of technology which is likely to be of some value here on earth and have very little potential for worldwide risk. Injecting oneself with some old strain of bacteria, risking your life and the lives of others should it prove to be contagious and fatal was very STUPID.

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