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Cold Fusion and the Reputation Trap (aeon.co)

An anonymous reader writes: Huw Price, the Bertrand Russell Professor of Philosophy at Cambridge, has written an article about how the scientific community regards research into cold fusion, and those who undertake it. His argument is not that current cold fusion research is necessarily correct, but rather that actual scientific progress is inhibited by what he calls a "reputation trap." "People outside the trap won't go near it, for fear of falling in. ... People inside the trap are already regarded as disreputable, an attitude that trumps any efforts that they might make to argue their way out, by reason and evidence." Central to his case is Andrea Rossi's work, which is not taken seriously throughout the scientific community, and yet he's still doing business.

Price's point is this: "Cold fusion is dismissed as pseudoscience, the kind of thing that respectable scientists and science journalists simply don't talk about (unless to remind us of its disgrace). ...the standard line is that the rejection of cold fusion in 1989 turned on the failure to replicate the claims of Fleischmann and Pons. Yet if that were the real reason, then the rejection would have to be provisional. Failure to replicate couldn't possibly be more than provisional – empirical science is a fallible business, as any good scientist would acknowledge. In that case, well-performed experiments claiming to overturn the failure to replicate would certainly be of great interest."

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  1. Cold fusion is psuedo-science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Rossi is a huckster who has a black box that he won't let anyone see with inputs that he won't let anyone measure.

    If Rossi actually succeeded with cold fusion, he would be the richest man on the planet, instead he is a clown with a black box.

    1. Re:Cold fusion is psuedo-science by Beck_Neard · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Precisely.

      The reason cold fusion isn't taken seriously is because it's been a consistent source of bullshit, lies, data manipulation, outright fraud, and bogus explanations.

      Cold fusion didn't just lose credibility because of Fleischmann and Pons. It's lost credibility because of the 26 years of its history too. A lot of the time, reputable scientists do attempt to verify and duplicate the claims of the cold fusion people only to be rapidly turned away. The cold fusion people don't *want* real experts looking at their work. They want gullible idiots and journalists.

      --
      A fool and his hard drive are soon parted.
    2. Re: Cold fusion is psuedo-science by taustin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If I had cold fusion i would keep it secret at all cost and cash in.

      How, pray tell, would you do so? You "cash in" by selling working units, which, by definition is not secret.

      What you propose is, literally, the very definition of pseudoscience.

      If someone that can hide such a discovery claims to have it, that's a very good reason to doubt it.

      However the claim of pseudoscience is as far as I can see unfounded. What's your references for that claim. It probably isn't possible to do cold fusion but that doesn't make it pseudoscience.

      What makes it pseudoscience is that a) no one has every had results that could be reproduced by other researchers, and b) everyone working in the field today is not interested in publishing their results, patenting the design, and selling working units. Most are only interested in collecting money from investors without doing those things.

    3. Re: Cold fusion is psuedo-science by taustin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well you can also sell electricity while keeping the inner workings of your box secret.

      If you're generating enough power to get rich, by definition, you're not keeping it secret. And the regulators will come knocking on your door, wanting to know a) what the waste products are, b) what you are doing with said waste products, and c) what effect that has on the environment.

      Real cold fusion would have very good answers to those questions. Fake cold fusion would involve a lot of pollutants being illegal (and criminally) dumped somewhere.

      So no, you can't sell the electricity while keeping it secret.

  2. Re:So?! by Darinbob · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If some area of research is claimed as "discredited" it should mean that a higher burden of proof is required. There's no reason to shun cold fusion and declare that any research in it is wasted, that's unscientific. However it is reasonable to assume anyone working on cold fusion research should be prepared to go beyond some simple papers claiming relevant results in one lab. Part of the shunning of cold fusion also came from the embarrassment factor, as a lot of people had been quickly interested in it, world wide news reports, early hype followed by disappointment.

    For astrology, it's been discredited over and over and over. There's never been any hint of evidence into validity, not even preliminary theories. The burden of proof to be accepted as a valid scientific researcher here is vastly higher than with cold fusion.

  3. Real power generation doesn't need belief by PeterM+from+Berkeley · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If Rossi's or anyone's claim that cold fusion (or some other power generation technique) worked was real, then they don't need anyone to believe them. They could just sell power and bootstrap themselves to millions/billions.

    For example, if I could produce a few MW of electricity cheap, with a compact form factor, I'd just go to Hawaii (which has really expensive electricity) and undercut the price of electricity there and sell the power to a datacenter or a high rise building. With the profits, I could bootstrap and make more power generators, and displace more competing capacity.

    And with generators that were powering MWs of buildings/datacenters, with no visible fuel inputs other than deuterium, I think credibility would soon be a non-issue.

    --PM

  4. Re:Climate Change by Darinbob · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So we wait until the sky falls? Given lots and lots of evidence of climate change already happening? Don't give up smoking until the xrays show a tumor.

    Your "way of life" is trivial to change. Stop driving some wannabe-cowboy SUV that does 3mpg on a good day, start recycling, turn the lights off when you're not in the room, etc. Cut back on American style conspicuous consumption.