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The E6-B Flight Computer Is 75 Years Old, Still In Use (informationweek.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Few devices have been around this long, have had cameo appearances in Star Trek, and remain in use today. The current E6-B looks almost exactly the same as the first one manufactured 75 years ago. It was designed by U.S. Naval Lt. Philip Dalton in the late 1930s. When he completed the final version, it was introduced to the Army in 1940, and later used widely during WWII. Today is a required instrument for flight training, and has appeared on Star Trek original series several times, as Mr. Spock used a E6-B for critical calculations.

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  1. Alternatively... by freeze128 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Windows 95 is 20 years old, and is still in use today."

    That doesn't quite have the same ring to it, does it?

    1. Re:Alternatively... by MrKaos · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Windows is 30 years old, and still in use. Hard to imagine that Windows 95 was far closer to Windows 1.0 than today.

      Windows 3.11 was the most popular of that series of Windows. I retired a 3.11 system IIRC about 5 or so years ago, but the old lady who owned it used it for word processing and that was about it. It wasn't on the net, it didn't even have an IP stack, it had nothing else installed and she saved everything to floppies, even though it had a hard drive. I was amazed it even functioned.

      Out of curiosity, I timed it go from power down to DOS 6.? to Win 3.11 UI in 17 seconds and to MS word within 34 seconds. Obviously systems do a lot more things when they start up now, but still pretty much shows it alligned with peoples expectations of how long it should take a computer to be ready to use after you turn it on.

      Happy New Year /.rs

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  2. Happy Birthday by zamboni1138 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I remember being 14 and learning to use an E6-B flight computer for the first time. It's pretty amazing to be able to sit down and develop a to-the-minute flight plan from departure to arrival and then be able to go out and execute that plan. Flying along hitting all your waypoints at the proper time, getting your enroute crab angle correct for the given winds aloft and not killing yourself along the way was always exciting. Hats off to Lt. Dalton. Your invention will always have a place in my flight bag.

    1. Re: Happy Birthday by Obfuscant · · Score: 4, Informative

      enroute crab angle Does that make you a crab person?

      For those who do not know, the action of flying turned into the wind is called "crabbing", after the skittering motion of a crab across the ground. If the wind is coming from your left, then to keep a defined track across the ground a pilot will keep the aircraft yawed to the left by some angle -- the "crab angle". Adding the vectors of wind and thrust results in the correct path from point A to point B on land.

      You don't usually notice this as a passenger while aloft. You will see it when you watch an aircraft land in a crosswind. To line up with the runway (a fixed track on the ground) the pilot points the nose of the airplane into the wind to cancel the sideways drift from the wind. This is the easy way to cancel that drift. It can be held for long periods of time and allows a stabilized approach.

      Just before landing, pilots will kick the airplane over into a "slip", which is a deliberate mis-coordination of the flight controls. This puts the plane in a bank (using the horizontal component of lift to cancel the wind) with rudder cancelling the yaw. This is a harder technique because it requires constant control inputs, but it aligns the wheels with the direction of travel. That's good for not blowing out tires.

    2. Re: Happy Birthday by Martin+Blank · · Score: 3, Informative

      Supermarket trolleys have castering wheels that align themselves to the path of least resistance. The landing gear of a B-52 are actually steered into position, and the plane holds the crab all the way down the runway.

      Example video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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  3. Nomograms by dtmos · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was musing just the other day about a related calculating method that has fallen into disuse, the nomogram. Nomograms always impressed me as an especially clever way to perform specific mathematical tasks.

    When I was young, and dirt was still sparkling and shiny new, nomograms were in every engineering textbook, handbook, and reference book. Their demise in engineering applications seems to have come with a whimper, not a bang, as no one seems to have noticed it.

  4. Re:its not a computer. by ClickOnThis · · Score: 3, Informative

    its a stupid slide rule with a stupid carnival wheel attachment.

    A computer is a device that can compute. The E6-B qualifies.

    Modern usage has co-opted the term to refer to an electronic device that computes. But computers pre-date the electronic age.

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  5. Re:Common objects in Star Trek by ClickOnThis · · Score: 2

    Has somebody made a detailed study on the common, everyday objects used in the episodes either as is, or as parts of a larger set? I fondly remember how a painted Logitech trackball was used in the captain's chair as a controller in the Next Generation series.

    In TOS, Dr. McCoy once used a "white sound" device to mask the heartbeats of the people on the bridge, so as to isolate the heartbeat of Finney in Engineering. It's easy to see that the prop was just a Shure microphone.

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  6. Re:its not a computer. by ClickOnThis · · Score: 4, Funny

    A computer is a device that can compute...

    Using that definition my hand is a computer also...

    Only if it's connected to a brain.

    [*crickets*]

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  7. Re:its not a computer. by kwbauer · · Score: 2

    I'm not sure simulating the motion of s steam-piston qualifies as computing. The "result" is much closer to the elementary school volcano for science class.

  8. Re:its not a computer. by amRadioHed · · Score: 3, Informative

    You could be. Computer used to be a job title.

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  9. Student Pilot Here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The E6B is a rite of passage for all student pilots, but I haven't found anyone that kept using it. An electronics calculator from the 70s is much faster and easier to use in a cockpit, but despite not being part of the practical test, every designated pilot examiner wants to see every student use one, because they used one as a student.

    1. Re:Student Pilot Here by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 2

      The E6B is a rite of passage for all student pilots, but I haven't found anyone that kept using it. An electronics calculator from the 70s is much faster and easier to use in a cockpit, but despite not being part of the practical test, every designated pilot examiner wants to see every student use one, because they used one as a student.

      Only the smart ones who know batteries die and electronics fail.

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  10. Re:Not surprising by Scarletdown · · Score: 2

    it's not like arithmetic has changed over 75 years.

    ...with the exception of Common Core, where "1 plus 1 equals fish, because bananas can't moonwalk."

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  11. I'm with Turning on this issue. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A computer is a device that can compute...

    Using that definition my hand is a computer also...

    When Alan Turing did his seminal work on computing and computability, he used "computer" to mean both a human with a pencil and paper and abstract mechanical devices generalizing and simplifying what this human computer did.

    I'm with Turning on this. A "computer" is any system that computes, whether it is entirely made out of live meat, made out of meat plus mechanical, electrical, and/or electronic aids, or made purely of such aids. The term may also be applied to aids that require a made-of-meat operator (or mechanical simulation of one) in the absence of the operator.

    By this definition, both slide rule s and nomogaphs qualify as "computers".

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  12. Re:Not used much anymore by AJWM · · Score: 2

    You're supposed to use your E6-B before you get in the cockpit, so GPS and VOR won't be much help.

    Remember "plan your flight, fly your plan?"

    I did a long cross-country flight (Waterloo-Denver and back, with fuel and customs stops each way) solo, in a Cessna 172-RG, with almost nothing but E6-B and paper maps (pre GPS). I did have dual VORs and RDF, but for fun I mostly tracked straightline (rather than VOR to VOR) using the angles to two different VORs to get my position. (Well, that and looking out the windows.)

    Neither a VOR nor a GPS will figure your crab angle for you, you have to know the wind speed and direction.

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  13. Re:TODAY IS REQUIRED INSTRUMENT by dryeo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's so true. at least the Americans would never use human life as a commodity, buying and selling people based on their colour, having a civil war about it and then finding lots of other ways to treat the same people as less then a commodity.
    Americans would also never steal peoples land on the principle that they're just a bunch of savages as well, nope they found an empty continent and just moved in.
    And today Americans would never blow up weddings and such on the chance that there might be a bad guy, with bad guy being defined as someone not happy with having their home blown up, in the name of freedom of course. Another thing is that American business would never move their manufacturing to 3rd world countries where workers are treated like commodities just to make more profits.

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  14. Re:TODAY IS REQUIRED INSTRUMENT by davester666 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The difference between what Stalin did and what Corporations under Capitalism do would be zero, short of the gov't stepping in and actively stopping them from doing so.

    Under capitalism, corporations are fine with beating, starving and enslaving their workforce, poisoning land, sea and air, really, whatever they can think of to make a little more money. Unfortunately, the US is rapidly becoming more fascist, in that corporations are literally writing the laws they want enacted, and just giving them to the politicians, who then pass them, but the voters keep reelecting them, so they must want more of the same.

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  15. Prowler? by Noble713 · · Score: 2

    I thought this article was about the flight computer used in the Prowler Electronic Attack aircraft....

    Aren't they out of service? How did the aircraft get a flight computer from the 30's? How could Gene Roddenberry possibly get his hands on a (then-modern) military aircraft computer during the original Star Trek's run?

    but that's the EA-6B......