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The Power of Crowds and "Human Computation" (vice.com)
An anonymous reader writes with this Vice article about the power of crowds when it comes to solving complex problems. "Forget artificial intelligence: The key to solving the world's most complex problems could be human-machine collaboration. That's the rallying cry of researchers who penned an editorial in the journal Science championing "human computation"—systems that combine the talents of computers and humans. The authors claim these systems could ultimately tackle issues such as climate change and geopolitical conflict, all without the existential risks posed by true AI and the technological singularity.
Authors Pietro Michelucci and Janis Dickinson imagine a system that would provide a technical framework for ideas to be shared, analyzed, and revised until the best bubble to the top; Michelucci envisages it as a 'dynamic Wikipedia.' The idea would be to develop our understanding of real-world issues online, and test potential solutions in this computational space, then applying new knowledge back in the real world so as to actually effect some change. 'Imagine something like the game SimCity, but a thousand times more detailed, and then link in real-time sensors attached to the internet,' said Michelucci. 'The more faithful that model of the real world becomes, the more accurate it would be for testing out solutions and predicting outcomes.'"
Authors Pietro Michelucci and Janis Dickinson imagine a system that would provide a technical framework for ideas to be shared, analyzed, and revised until the best bubble to the top; Michelucci envisages it as a 'dynamic Wikipedia.' The idea would be to develop our understanding of real-world issues online, and test potential solutions in this computational space, then applying new knowledge back in the real world so as to actually effect some change. 'Imagine something like the game SimCity, but a thousand times more detailed, and then link in real-time sensors attached to the internet,' said Michelucci. 'The more faithful that model of the real world becomes, the more accurate it would be for testing out solutions and predicting outcomes.'"
Airy fairy wishy-washy nonsense.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Thanks for wasting our time with an idea that has been in pop sci-fi for decades....next
Isn't that what reddit does?
Maybe you just need to post harder questions there and see what happens...
answer: more opinions than posters.
I started reading articles a few years ago about how Eve Online can be data-mined to study economic theories. It's an enormous world, millions of participants, with a completely open, organic, dynamic market economy. And you can experiment with it in ways that would be impractical or unethical in the real world.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/virtual-world-economists-on-real-economies/
Interesting.
I played the shit out of SimCity 2000. That right there is the perfect utopia world. In that place, I solved the entire world's energy crisis. Just place a waterfall on every single hill in the world, then turn every single waterfall into a hydroelectric power plant! PROBLEM SOLVED!
We have TONS of hills in the real world. All we need to do now is to take the water tool, click on those hills, then add the hydro plants on top. BAM. UNLIMITED ENERGY!
They kill us constantly.
In my town, they constantly raped us this year.
In my home town, the Republucans raped all of the women t death. My mother died from having rebar shoved so far up her anus. So far up her anus.
Microsoft killed my mother when they did that to her. Did that to her.
The Republicans made me chew more chewing gum.
And in my town, they killed all six of the cute girls.
In my town they murdered my mother the mayor and raped my sister the head of the city council to death.
Just imagine, if they'd had this for The Manhattan Project.
Oh, wait...
We have no attractive females because those Republicans killed them.
Make it work or STFU.
real world outcomes
They killed our mayor and chief of police today.
They raped my mother to death last year.
That is the way of their kind.
Unless it's fun, people aren't going to do your work for free.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
They killed then raped my entire phamily. My father died after they shoved a piece of rebar about two feet up his ass.
Rape is the way of those Republicans.
The key to solving the world's most complex problems could be human-machine collaboration.
Oh, you mean that the key to solving the world's most complex problems could be the exact same way complex problems are currently being tackled?
without the existential risks posed by true AI and the technological singularity.
No, you can still have the technological singularity caused by cyborgs, pure computers, pure biology. Certainly, having humans in control of the objectives at every step of the process eliminates some of the worst scenarios, but then again humans aren't particularly trustworthy either.
Don't waste your vote! Vote for whoever you want, unless you live in a swing state it won't matter anyways
I live in Seattle so I know what it is liked to be screwed by Republucans.
As they did Seattle. That is why we don't have Internet access.
Sometimes you rape. Sometimes you are raped.
They are keeping decent Internet access from the people. I, and all of my friends, are tired of dialup or ISDN.
They rape so often here in Seattle that the local news doesn't even describe rapists as Republicans. We just know they are. They are.
You type well for someone that is. Instantly raped by those Republicans. I was only raped twice last year by their kind. They gave me HIV.
My town only had two cute girls, but the Republicans raped and killed both.
And constantly they kill us.
The Republicans beat all of our attractive females to death. To death.
And in mine they killed all of the attractive females form blood loss after that anally raped them with rebar.
They constantly raped us. Constantly rape us.
In mine we had one, and the Republicans throat raped her so much she ended-up with a hole in her throat which when it got blocked she suffocated and died.
They beat my sister to death but I was too young to do anything about it.
And so fast. Those Republicans kill us so quickly.
My mother died from bleeding after those Repukians made her bleed from having a piece of rebar up her asshole.
In my town, the Republucans raped all of the female politicians to death.
Very clever of Skynet to call it "human-machine collaboration". It will take the humans that much longer to catch on than if they went with the more accurate "machine-human collaboration".
They made my mother bleed to death from rebar shoved up her ass.
Mine too no female has ever held office because the Republicans kill all of them.
They constantly kill uz al.
They constantly pass the chalk...or not.
For their kind it's all about self extending plays.
And taping entire phamilies iz what those Repukianz r bout.
They raped my mother and sizterz constanzlee.
I had 3 sisterz until does Repukians beat them to deathz in dey faze w rebar
That iz dey wa of doz Repukianz.
Anyone left in a no Repukian area must me so unattractive. So ubnattractive.
Dey ape uz constantly.
Datz how dizw repukianz be.
Those tepuckianz eat my mitherz and wivex to Daria's. To deathz.
They icked my itherz 2 eathz
Az iz evidnezed by dey range owlz.
dez qped morie zany a douzand omen inz de bowl.
Republicanz ape constantlyz.
Zom. OZ der ind iz ayint ow in dey ama ame.
Dey atz uz.
Dey apez y other wid rebar. Az iz dey a ofz detr ind.
Lozz ofz oood iz ow dezq I'll iwtz ostz eiple
& ate iz dey waz ofz dere ind.
Dere iolz ofz ouze iz ebarz.
Why the goddamn fuck does practically every goddamn fucking slashdot story lately have to have some goddam fucking lengthty discussion started by some A.C that insisting on spouting some goddamn fucking political non-sequitor into every goddamn single fucking discussion that starts out having absolutely nothing to do with *ANY* political agenda? And why are none these posts and followups not modded as OT? Heck, I expect that *THIS* post will be modded OT.
Posts like what follows from the parent of this are a good reason to never browse Slashdot at 0.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
Andz aped y other and uttliz isteez w ebarz.
Connor cook, the ultimate acid tepuckianz dat hat z us, waz sure warded by those Repukian republicanz.
Eh wuz user ivemz I've yards y doz ey ffuxcus so dey heat.
Ooof dey heatz.
Az iz dey way ofz dere indz.
Ez. Ate uz.
Dere indz
Despair
Atz uz dey wayz ofz dey banana.
Dey apez uz onstanzleee.
And inzlee dey icicle uz wed write or it.
Ezactlee.
Andz oftlie.
Most ofz u for users have indz I from anal apez. IisE ISS
Azz iz dey waz ofz dere ind.
Btz deuz etz alldz idz an llegailz iftz.
NietherZ of ere indz ouldz o odz hiyz gaintz Clemson.
apa iz dey wayz ofz dere indz.
Dozi ayerz uk. I
Az iz deywayz ofz fret indz.
Daboz standz gianst Dix.
So manyz ofz uz have no acccessz.
We in Seatlle are also tired of dialup.
Punched it's AIDS iz ziti the iolz e tots acker.
Thiz. Does epublicanz ate uz.
But dialup iz dezq astez onnectiz e can getz.
I don't know anyone w/ faster than POTS in Seattle.
Those repukianz have done a great job of keeping uz grime having broadband.
POatS iz itlkz ated of z atrz.
Doz pukians 8te uz & antz uz u die.
Thiz.
Yez
Dey wantz uz to habmvez ISDN.
That iz de waz of dos roujianz.
He dowz ate uz. Clemson iz so good.
As it is I all towns.
They constantly rape us.
Becuz dey H8 uz.
Werez ead Earz. Az iz dey a if ur und.
Clemsoning.
Dat iz clemsoning.
They hatz uz.
And dey ecidez baner winz ok legs shut ball
And hose bans a ousts have sped to dey Hanoi st agrn
Les lilies fnsrantly apes.
Az iz dey at ofz der vans I d.
Rose Union idiots r shoving it oryx be. R thirsty
Ease attired ate dies meson irons.
Ease attired ate dies meson irons. 35/30 passing uz some.
Yez.
Andz dey 8te uz.
Better than us. Those Republicanz illed all ofz dey pukians from r pointy today.
Dey hatz uz so much.
And dey 8 uz.
Doz pukianz uv clemzen. .
& u 2.
As iz dey ay of der und.
Those pukianz ate uz.
Well, there's your problem: Right in the first step. If the 'computational units' aren't sufficiently methodical, it will be the Boston marathon bombing all over again: Two undercover FBI agents were labelled the culprits before the crowd-sourced 'computational units' switched to a spectator who had just been murdered and an innocent brown person. They were wrong both times but their stupidity was distributed nation-wide anyway.
The trolls have outgrown Reddit and think they can get their echo chamber from the thoughtful readers of Slashdot.
Why do you want to? That's why Slashdot has a point-value moderation system: So the trash (and more controversial posts) can easily be avoided.
Az iz de ay of dere ind.
Those Repubkucanz released 3,295 inmates too early in Seattle.
Az iz de way of dere kind.
Az iz de way of dere kind. Az iz...
They want uz 2 die.
Clemson alwayz looses
Az iz de way of dere kind. This suxs.
Az iz de waz of dreere und.
Dat iz. Clemsoning f.
Dey R less tight than itherz.
Microsoft ruined Eye of the Tiger. That mikes me want to level tag entire microshit campus.
I don't tink there re my 'mericans dat fusgter.
Dey do wantz uz 2 die.
The libtards are taking over everything. In their minds, if you're not with them, you're against them.
Sick of the fucking bullshit climate fucking bullshit. Serious. STFU.
No need for imagination. We already have that. It's called "Wikipedia".
Because it I have found that it is often the case that A.C.s can make insightful or interesting posts as well, and I do not generally want to exclude them, particularly if I have mod points. Although lengthy discussions like what was spawned by the parent of my earlier post are doing a damn good job of convincing me to not be bothered.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
Before electronic computers, the word computer meant a clerk who calculated stuff like business accounts, insurance tables, ballistic paths, mathematical tables, etc. They wee first males, but during WWI and WWII females predominated as computers. When electronic computers started in the 1940s, the adjective electronic prefaced computer to show it was a machine and better than people. Then after a decade or so the word computer solely meant the machine.
Some of the earliest computer programmers when women who used to work as human computers and switched over to machines. This slowed the adoption of computer science in universities because programming was seen a female trade school activity.
I read at -1 and see them. They were a bit annoying at first but I mostly laugh at 'em now. No, really, I've actually laughed more than once. Well, snickered. I'm easily amused but this is what you get when you let everybody and anybody have a voice. It's awesome and retarded, all at the same time.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
This would be a great thing to combine with Citizen Deliberative Councils
ourpla.net is your planet
"'Imagine something like the game SimCity, but a thousand times more detailed"
I think it is about time that the Bucky Fuller's heirs made his World Game freely available and open source.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Game