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Massive Marine Reserve Created In Atlantic (bbc.com)
An anonymous reader writes: The British government has announced that it will create a marine reserve slightly smaller than the UK in the waters off Ascension Island. The South Atlantic reserve totals 234,291 sq km and is being funded with the help of a £300,000 grant from the charitable Bacon Foundation. Charles Clover, Blue Marine Foundation chairman, said: "Ascension has been at the frontiers of science since Charles Darwin went there in the 19th Century, so it is entirely appropriate that it is now at the centre of a great scientific effort to design the Atlantic's largest marine reserve."
I thought it said "Massive Mana Reserve Created in Atlantic"... which would of course be redundant since it's already filled with islands *ducks*
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Not really, because this isn't a story about a different reserve, not that you'd let them stop you going off on an unrelated rant; I guess you got fed up of waiting for people to actually want your opinion on the matter so now you just project it it anywhere you can imagine up a tenuous link.
Who's going to stop factory ships from going in there and trawling up the fish?
Creating a marine reserve is a declaration of intent; it means that if you violate it, you have been warned. We already have enough satelites looking down (think Google Maps) the be able to follow ships around across the oceans, just to mention one thing, and there has been a lot talk in recent years about actually using this to enforce rules on shipping and fishing. This is just another small piece in that puzzle; we don't necessarily need to have marine vessels defending these areas, when we can following the perpetrators on the big CCTV in the sky and then take them to court and strip to of all assets. If there is one thing the big multinationals that own the factory ships fear, it's losing money in a serious way. I hope they will be flayed and left in a salt pit.
Ascention Island is a hunk of volcanic rock stuck in the middle of the atlantic. Does a country really get jurisdiction of 234,291 sq km (a zone roughly 500km across) out of that? I suspect someone is overstating the claim.
What jurisdiction does England have over a Japanese fishing vessel?
England governs Ascension Island, so they have jurisdiction over all ships that enter the waters around the island, regardless of where they originated from. Being from a different country does not give you a free pass to violate the local laws.
people wonder if anyone would notice any violations of the marine park... YES, yes they would
however not the reason you might thing the island is crawling with monitoring equipment both for environmental (its quite important to know the weather above and below the water if your a navy) and machines (satellites/networking/radio/sonar) basically its a rather nice outpost on which the British get to say what goes...
so putting a nature reserve there is rather befitting
regards
John Jones
Ascension has no indigenous population. It was first settled by the British 200 years ago.
You're not very familiar with international law or maritime law, are you?
I realize that you're hell bent on making yourself look silly but I'll try to help you out. The world is not a binary place. Enforcement can not be 100% and nobody is expecting it to be - well, nobody involved in this process. Regulations don't work like you seem to think they do. Instead of making authoritative statements, you can always just ask questions. I find it comes in handy and there are lots of people here who know a whole ton of different things - some of the are even willing to help me fill in the gaps in my knowledge.
Whenever I say something stupid (which is fairly frequent), I make it a point to phrase it as a question. It's amazing what a difference it can make. Lemme give you an example:
"Do progressives really want to force people to have gay sex, mandatory abortions, and adopt Islam as their main religion?"
It's also handy for eliciting responses which isn't, by default, the same thing as trolling. You're giving the odd little critter known as a Nutria a bad name!
You're the same person that said, "Well, I can just make my own drone and those drone laws can't stop me!" Aren't you? On its surface that appears to be a valid statement. Given some thought, however, and you'll realize it's just silly. Laws against speeding do not stop people from street racing. Laws against theft do not prevent people from stealing. Laws against murder have not eliminated murder. Funny how that works and yet we still have those laws. I'll see if you can figure out why on your own. Feel free to ask for help. Time is my greatest asset but I'm willing to share it.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
you may cry and tag all you want, but that last marine reserve created by uk government in order to carry out a blatant human rights violation is relevant to this creation.
btw if you read slashdot it is known for making these types of connections about related stories in its posts. except it seems, when it comes to facts about westersn crimes and human rights violations.
westerners do not want to face facts that their freely elected governments are engaging in ethnic cleansing, and child rapes and killings, etc etc, to keep their lazy lifestyles intact.