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A New, App-Based Format For Novels (theguardian.com)

HughPickens.com writes: The Guardian reports that Julian Fellowes, creator of Downton Abbey, plans to release his new novel, a historical drama set in London during the 1840s, in installments via an app. It's a tradition that dates back to Charles Dickens, but utilizes modern technology. Each of Belgravia's 11 chapters will be delivered on a weekly basis, and will come with multimedia extras including music, character portraits, family trees and an audio book version. "To marry the traditions of the Victorian novel to modern technology, allowing the reader, or listener, an involvement with the characters and the background of the story and the world in which it takes place, that would not have been possible until now, and yet to preserve within that the strongest traditions of storytelling, seems to me a marvelous goal and a real adventure," says Fellowes.

Publisher Jamie Raab says the format appealed to her precisely because of Fellowes's television background and his ability to keep audiences engaged in a story over months and even years. "I've always been intrigued by the idea of publishing a novel in short episodic bites. He gets how to keep the story paced so that you're caught up in the current episode, then you're left with a cliffhanger."

57 comments

  1. New? Hardly. by nospam007 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "A New, App-Based Format For Novels "

    We call it a normal money making scheme app with in-app purchases to lure the morons to spend their hard earned cash.

    1. Re:New? Hardly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And soon after this catches on again, writers will denounce its foolishness and the way it cheapens their craft... again.

      I am reminded of something that a much better writer than Mr. Fellowes once did. The story is that "purple prose", which was always ridiculous, was becoming commonplace due to serialized stories in periodicals. To draw attention and make light of this, Mark Twain wrote a fine example of the purple prose style, but tried to push it a bit farther than most audiences would tolerate. The result is quite funny.

    2. Re:New? Hardly. by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 1

      We call it kindle, acrobad reader, plus various proprietary things from Google, Apple, M$. You can already spend a fortune in Kindle without realizing it, if you are an avid and relatively fast reader.

    3. Re:New? Hardly. by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      It's a tradition that dates back to Charles Dickens,

      Uh... no. It's a tradition that dates back to the first newspapers. That was a hell of a lot earlier than Dickens.

    4. Re:New? Hardly. by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      I admit, though, those weren't novels. But series, yes. Serial pieces of news, and stories. I don't think the "novel" aspect really adds much.

    5. Re:New? Hardly. by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      I think it's more likely that they'll refer to the old way as "binge reading".

    6. Re: New? Hardly. by slazzy · · Score: 1

      Wait, Charles Dickens could run apps??

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    7. Re:New? Hardly. by q4Fry · · Score: 1

      Is The Count of Monte-Cristo not considered a novel? 1844 is after The Pickwick Papers began serialization, so I can't speak to "a hell of a lot earlier than Dickens," but this was at least contemporary.

  2. Finally, an app apper who apps it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Modern app appers know that only apps can app apps! It's about time an apper starts apping apps so only other app appers can app the apps, and filthy LUDDITES won't be able to use them!

    Apps!

    1. Re:Finally, an app apper who apps it! by vel-ex-tech · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up please!

      Ok, to respond to TFS, why not just put the documents in a torrent and link to Patreon? Maybe make a Facebook page? People like me will provide the bandwidth to distribute it and also drop a few bucks if it's good. I also have a small running list of rare works I seed with no ratio cap. Maybe $20 once the series is complete depending on how extensive the other content besides the main work is. At least $10 (price of a paperback) if the main work is good. I'll even do the work of creating the torrent and providing a seedbox free of charge if necessary.

      If an author requires typesetting for a paperback edition that can be downloaded and brought to a local print shop to be printed and bound, I've become rather handy with \LaTeX . I haven't actually had the fanfictions I've reformatted this way printed and bound (for obvious copyright reasons), but I'm certain a creative commons license would obviate those concerns. Is there a startup somewhere I can throw a PDF at that will mail me a printed and bound paperback? I suppose if the work is popular, the startup could make actual bulk production runs, put them in a warehouse, and have a robot pick them when the uploaded PDF's hash matches. That would work nicely with the torrent distribution model.

      I'm not very good at convincing investors, but I'm certain I could at least start with an auto-cropping double-sided laser printer and one of these. I'm sure there's potential there for other distribution models and kickbacks to the author every time an order comes through. Amazon.com/Barnes and Noble and Patreon/PayPal integration?

      But then again I'm a filthy LUDDITE! Oh well.

    2. Re:Finally, an app apper who apps it! by penguinoid · · Score: 1

      Actually, modern app appers only read unencumbered e-books on their favorite e-book reading app, not luddite DRM crapbooks on a crappy DRM (cr)app.

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  3. And how much per installment? by Mahldcat · · Score: 2

    What do you want to bet this is going to be $4-$5 per installment.......and is there a sunset date. Also.....I'm sure there are provisions that prevent you from sharing out to others of course......

    1. Re:And how much per installment? by CaptBubba · · Score: 1

      The NY Times article linked in the first article linked says $1.99 each or $13.99 for the whole thing.

    2. Re:And how much per installment? by Tim+the+Gecko · · Score: 2

      Funnily enough, if you inflation adjust the 1890s cost of the Strand Magazine with Sherlock Holmes installments then you get about $4. (sixpence = 1/40 * GBP)

    3. Re:And how much per installment? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funnily enough, if you inflation adjust the 1890s cost of the Strand Magazine with Sherlock Holmes installments then you get about $4. (sixpence = 1/40 * GBP)

      I have a copy of "The Original Illustrated 'Strand' Sherlock Holmes" collected works by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. Each of the stories runs at least 20 pages printed on fine paper measurng 8.5-inch by 12-inch per page. It is one of my treasured books in my personal library.

  4. Sounds nice by 110010001000 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Releasing novels via apps is very traditional, dates back to Charles Dickens time. Charles only supported Windows Mobile and Blackberry's. This new app will be more modern. Really exciting stuff!

    1. Re:Sounds nice by hackertourist · · Score: 1

      Pah, newbie. I remember the time when these updates were only available for Babbage's Analytical Engine.
      Each update came in the form of a crate of parts you had to install in your Engine.

  5. .... but on a computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He gets how to keep the story paced so that you're caught up in the current episode, then you're left with a cliffhanger.

    Julian Fellows has successfully re-invented the "chapter."

    1. Re:.... but on a computer by hawguy · · Score: 2

      He gets how to keep the story paced so that you're caught up in the current episode, then you're left with a cliffhanger.

      Julian Fellows has successfully re-invented the "chapter."

      That's chappter.

    2. Re:.... but on a computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or the 'series'.

  6. Great idea (for the publisher) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's just make books incompatible with future hardware so people have to buy them again and again... and again!

  7. New? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    New app kindle?

  8. How is this different from television, exactly? by mark-t · · Score: 1

    [nt]

  9. Awful format by BenJeremy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Forgetting the stupid costs and such, the idea of waiting to read the next part of a book is incredibly bad.

    I typically read a book in a few days; then I read another. I don't interleave books, so I'd be dependent on the 13 week release schedule to complete this book to get another one to read.

    Multimedia doesn't excite me at all, either. That's not why I read books.

    1. Re:Awful format by JonnyCalcutta · · Score: 2

      I agree its an awful idea, but what really concerns me is that it probably doesn't have to be that successful for every fecker to give it a go and then every book will come wrapped in its own app.

      Apart from the multimedia crap (and obviously the money/power play involved) there's really no reason for it to come in its own app. I mean is there any technical reason you can't release a chapter at a time on Kindle/Kobo/Nook/whatever?

    2. Re:Awful format by taustin · · Score: 1

      If I could be bothered to get a smart phone, I still wouldn't be interested in buying a web page that pretends to be a novel, and even if I were, I certainly wouldn't add the security hazard of an app created by a bunch of penny pinching morons, which is all that's left in the publishing industry.

    3. Re:Awful format by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same reason why a lot of websites are going back to all-Flash... DRM and control. I personally wouldn't bother downloading/paying for an app which is a wrapper around a book -- Apple, Amazon, et. al., have well established mechanisms for this. If an author wants to release chapters of a book, feel free. That functionality is definitely available in existing setups.

      Of course, we have the authors that want to be that special snowflake... It just means they can't succeed by their writing, so have to go with gimmicks.

    4. Re:Awful format by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree its an awful idea, but what really concerns me is that it probably doesn't have to be that successful for every fecker to give it a go and then every book will come wrapped in its own app.

      Sounds like the modus operandi of a particular "app developer"during the early days of BlackBerry OS 10 when the BlackBerry app store, named BlackBerry World, allowed him to package books from Project Gutenburg as apps. He flooded BlackBerry World with thousands of worthless pieces of garbage - not the actual content but the delivery vehicle.

    5. Re:Awful format by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      It's easier for an app to violate your privacy for extra profit.

      The idea is to turn shit into gold by adding some cheap multimedia crap, stealing your personal data and trying to go viral like some kind of STD.

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    6. Re:Awful format by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Waiting to read and interleaving books is not that bad ... It is an acquired taste.

      I found a lot of my recreative reading on the web. Web serials, fiction, some fanfiction...
      Right now, I am following 117 stories, with update ranging from twice a day to once a year.
      And many are at or over novel length.
      And some of them includes multimedia (pictures, sound, ...) . I am not a fan, but sometimes it does properly enhances a story.

      The app format, on the other hand, is an idea I definitively don't like

    7. Re: Awful format by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Following web stories comes with a risk that the author will get writers block or lose interest in finishing the story. With network tv you at least get seasonal chunks if they get cancelled. Anime leaves you wanting more when it is meant as a 12 episode gateway for people in Japan to buy the light novel or ongoing manga. But it does not drop off the face of the earth like some on-line authors.
      At least with traditional books you are given all the chapters at once. Cliff hangers tend to deliver sequels 12 months later.

  10. Save Us! by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

    From pot boiler historical soap operas.

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  11. Neal Stephenson did this six years ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    http://publishingperspectives.com/2010/11/neal-stephensons-mongoliad-revolutionizing-storytelling/#.Vow06PHer0k

    Stephen King's The Green Mile was originally published in six installments you could buy in grocery stores.

    1. Re:Neal Stephenson did this six years ago by monkeyhybrid · · Score: 1
  12. The Appity-app-app Guy Just Crreamed His Jeans! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    n/t

  13. GRRM should do this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A penny per word.

  14. William Gibson did this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  15. OH, They Invented The Blog!! by orasio · · Score: 0

    So this is a blog, but with payments. We are back in the nineties.

    1. Re:OH, They Invented The Blog!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Not really. In the 90s it would have just been done with html and hence readable on any old computer with a browser. This is a more 80s approach where it's all locked in a program... sorry, app... stuck on whatever subset of platforms they choose to support.

  16. It is a decent idea, but ... by Rob+Lister · · Score: 1

    It is a decent idea, but the OP makes it seem like a new idea. As a boy most of my SciFi reading was done in installments. What did I care? I didn't pay for the subscription. Astounding Magazine published Asimov's Foundation in monthly installments. It was old marketing then, I'm sure. Applying the technological App to the name doesn't change what it is. You're subscribing to a book series. Wait'll it's done and you can buy the book with decent edits.

    At first I thought that perhaps the publisher thinks they'll beat the pirates by locking it into an app. That will survive at least a day of pirate efforts. Every installment will be available in torrent the day after release. So no, that's not it. They're doing it for novelty. No pun intended but I'll take it.

    1. Re:It is a decent idea, but ... by castionsosa · · Score: 1

      If worse came to worst, the pirate will just screenshot every page, pass it through an OCR, and have it as a PDF for everyone to download. I see this exact same tomfoolery with all Flash sites that are becoming more common, just so they can bypass AdBlock.

      Long term, it just means reduced sales, because people just are not going to bother going out of their way to download/purchase an app that is not compatibile with their existing library of reading material.

  17. This isn't even about more money from the reader by taustin · · Score: 1

    Though there's that, too.

    But if the publishers (and established authors) can convince their market that this is the New Bestest Thing Evar, then all novels have to be published this way or they're too "crude and amateurish." And that means that the self-publishing authors, who have zero barrier to entry in to the market, can no longer afford to self publish, because who can afford all the multi-media crap that adds nothing to the value of the novel?

    This isn't a new idea. Publishers have been desperately trying to find a way to keep people from eliminating the middle man since Kindle made it big. Multi-media crap is the most obvious way, since it's too much work for one person to do alone, and too expensive for the self publisher to buy done. Unfortunately, for publishers, it adss nothing to the novel reader, and this scheme/scam will fail just like the multi-media schemes/scams before it.

    People who want multi-media will buy DVDs of movies, not web pages that pretend to be novels.

    It's a pity that publishers aren't willing to try the one value added service that will actually appeal to readers: actual, you know, editing and shit, like they used to do, so that their product doesn't suck donkey balls.

  18. Reminds me of David Crane's Atari 2600 App... by rockmuelle · · Score: 1

    The app, if you haven't seen it, is an interactive "book" that covers the basics of the video system for the Atari 2600. It uses a mix of prose and a basic simulator to introduce and demonstrate different techniques:

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/ap...

    Sure, programming the 2600 is a world removed from Victorian England, but interactive content done right can be very engaging, as David's app demonstrates.

    I'm sure there are countless other examples of interactive content people have developed for mobile devices, and those might be the reason we don't see more of them...

    -Chris

  19. Episodic if it has actual depth to it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If the series was a long set of books similar to an average TV shows style of story-telling, scaled up to a books scale, I'd maybe go for it.

    But if it is just some sort of average story split up in to micro-chunks because "people are impatient with low attention spans these days", nope.
    I'm just the former, not the latter.

    Better yet if you go full social-inspired story-telling and have an official forum for conversation on it, and maybe alter the story based on discussion in the forum.
    It has been done before, in game and even with a TV show, and it can be pretty good if done right. It is far harder to do with a TV show, especially if you pre-record every possible iteration and just air what popular votes want. (like one show did, forgot the name though)
    But with story-telling, it is considerably easier to change the story at a whim, especially if you have a nice framework in place to guide you along the way.
    There are many ways to go about making it easy on the mind, popular one being a simple tree-style layout of events with a basic story flow, key points, then you fill in the details as you progress.
    There could be something like this already, but I'm not sure. It'd be like adventure books of old, but behind the scenes and majority vote rather than dice roll.

  20. Baen Snippets by Eristone · · Score: 1

    I see they haven't been to Baen's Bar or Library site - the snippets posted 2-3 times a week for upcoming books (which basically ends up being the first third of the book) and the Free Library (consolidates the snippets to an easier to read format - look - there's a "buy here" button). If they shoot for a patent, there's plenty of prior art.

    1. Re:Baen Snippets by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 1

      I see they haven't been to Baen's Bar or Library site - the snippets posted 2-3 times a week for upcoming books (which basically ends up being the first third of the book) and the Free Library (consolidates the snippets to an easier to read format - look - there's a "buy here" button). If they shoot for a patent, there's plenty of prior art.

      This, in spades.

      I've read so many Baen books, entire series I'd have never even considered, many of them endless serials but interesting nonetheless.

      This happens because I can read the first one or two books in a series and see if they're any good, then I go out and get others or the rest of the series.

      Same with Charles Stross and his Laundry series.

      And as Eric Flint (one Baen Books' authors) points out, when he started putting his older works up on the Baen site for free, the sales of these older works actually went up!

      There's no need for all the technology, or "milking the cow", or maximizing profit potential, or monetizing the customers' data. Just make a good product and your customers will be happy and loyal.

  21. WTF by crow_t_robot · · Score: 1

    and will come with multimedia extras including music, character portraits, family trees and an audio book version

    Can't you just make a fucking book? I want this extra shit like I want shards of glass hammered in to the head of my dick.

    1. Re:WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ohhh! Is there an app for that?

    2. Re:WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Splinter?

    3. Re:WTF by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      I want this extra shit like I want shards of glass hammered in to the head of my dick.

      Protip: don't buy it.

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    4. Re:WTF by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      I want this extra shit like I want shards of glass hammered in to the head of my dick.

      Protip: don't buy it.

      Protip...I see what you did there.

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    5. Re:WTF by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      Ooh, I found a bug. Click here and your comment loses its bolded letters.

      Couldn't figure out what point you were trying to make.

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  22. Anyone hear of Perry Rhodan? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is a series of novels published in German (the first 100 or so were translated to english) that has been in weekly publication since, if I recall correctly, the '60's. Too lazy to spend the few minutes looking it up, sorry. Full novel, every week, with story arcs up to a year long. Very popular, with more of them were available in English. Thinking of learning German just so I can read the whole series...!

  23. how is that news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    selling books is not news
    selling apps is not news
    selling novels by chapter is not news (so says the OP)

    so. no news. WTF

    these days every moron gets his 15 minutes of faim by simply *claiming* to be news. speaks a lot to the stupidity of either editors, the audience, or both.

    what a sad world.

  24. Re:This isn't even about more money from the reade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I work for the biggest fiction publisher in the world and your comment amuses me. Do you know who keeps trying to add multimedia to novels? It's not publishers or authors, it's certainly not readers. It's app developers trying to 'reinvent' the novel. Occasionally a publisher will give it a go, usually at the developers cost, realise no-one is interested and go back to their business of discovering, editing and selling books. Despite kindle et al, 90% of publishers profits still come from dead trees and the market is actually growing, turns out readers like to read actual books, just like they have for the last several centuries. Who knew?
    This project will see moderate success because of Fellowes/Downton Abbey. Otherwise doomed.

  25. Julian Fellowes is a conservative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All his kind care about is making money. Simply making money and letting the planet go to hell in a handcart. Sacrificing the future of humanity on the altar of profit.

  26. stop! by cas2000 · · Score: 1

    stop trying to turn safe, inert data into unsafe executable code.

    it's bad enough that large portions of the web have transformed into executable spyware and crapware with excessive use of mandatory but unneccesary javascript (js for what should be A HREF links FFS!) - ebooks don't need to go the same route.

    there's no need for anti-features like this...it serves only the company pushing it, and actively harms the customer.