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North Korea Expands Retaliatory Loudspeaker Propaganda (yonhapnews.co.kr)
jones_supa writes: North Korea has expanded its own loudspeaker broadcasts along the inter-Korean border as a counteraction to South Korea's retaliatory broadcasts critical of the communist nation, sources said Monday. In retaliation for North's nuclear test last Wednesday, South resumed its anti-Pyongyang broadcast campaign two days later, a form of psychological warfare detested by the communist country, where outside information is tightly blocked out. "The North initially operated its own loudspeakers at two locations and has now expanded to several locations," a government source said. "In fact, the anti-South loudspeaker broadcasts appear to be coming from every location where we are broadcasting." The North Korean broadcasts are not clearly audible from the South Korean side of the border, but mostly deal with internal propaganda messages and music promoting its leader Kim Jong-un. "We are not sure if it's an issue of electric power or the performance of the loudspeakers, but the sound is very weak," another government source said.
It's one thing for South Korea to broadcast propaganda to the North: a prosperous, exciting democratic country can make itself look very appealing to people living in a place as awful as North Korea.
But what do the North Koreans think that they can possibly achieve by broadcasting propaganda to the South? What could a dour, dangerous regime possibly say to convince people that they're the good guys?
Have the South Koreans made any notable technological advances in increasing the maximum range of a speaker or making highly directional speakers that can reach Pyongyang from across the DMZ?
The North seems to be broadcasting Katy Perry's song "Firework" over and over again for some mysterious reason.
THat's when happens when you import reverse engineered jensen speakers. Amateurs.
Me?? JBLs, Kickers, etc with Ministry and KMFDM blasted to 11!
Life is not for the lazy.
Well, I guess we could discuss the possible reasons why their speakers aren't loud enough? That's nerdy, right?
Whoever has the highest decibel reading in the center of the DMZ wins the title "Best Korea"
The south will rise again!!!
Have you ever fallen asleep at the keybhanusdiog?
What is there to discuss? We know the reason is that the tubes sending the electricity to the speakers isn't wide enough.
Sure, a loudspeaker campaign might not seem like the most tactful or appropriate means to an end of nearly half a century of aggression but take for a moment to consider this: Korea, both north and south, has succeeded in creating the worlds only 160 mile long insufferable asian shouting contest. Thats right. while problems like global warming, climate change, systemic poverty, famine, and clean potable drinking water exist around the globe we can all take comfort in knowing Korea, both north and south, have taken the important first step of solving the major global defecit of a 160 mile audible pissing contest.
Good people go to bed earlier.
Am I the only one amused the Korean War has come to the point of being a literal shouting match between the two countries?
The penis, mightier than the sword.
with loudspeakers on them?
Not trying to give anyone any ideas.
Where are we going and why are we in a handbasket?
Everyone knows that Asians don't make good drivers.
Maybe the don't want South Korea to hear it, they won't believe the propaganda anyway. Likely they just want to 'jam' the signal that is heard in North Korea from the south.
The response to offensive speech is speech that drowns out the offensive speech?
I suppose to Kim Jong Il that's an obviously-true statement. Well, when one can't just shoot the source of the offensive speech, anyway.
Lockheed Martin has already won the contract to build a much larger, louder loudspeaker. It will cost $40 billion, with construction spread across every Congressional district, and take an estimated 10 years to complete--but it will be worth it in the end to show the Red Menace that Uncle Sam means BUSINESS!
SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
Why don't they just use noise cancelling technology and take the inverse of the soundwave that is blaring at them and blast it out also?
Fearless Leader is having one of those phases, again. it is not permitted in Nut Korea to invert the meaning of anything.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
Wondering whether they settled on a common BPM and whether both tracks are synced from time to time.
That's not it. They just don't have enough North Koreans to scream into the other end.
I doubt that anyone from North Korea is going to be able to respond with the technical specs of their speaker system without getting shot for doing so.
South Korea might, though. I wouldn't be surprised if they had some bleeding edge tech from Samsung that has 20X the power of the North Korean system.
It's the quality that matters. They should have used tube/thermionic valve amplifiers, in class A.
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In my imagination, once side is playing Party Rock Anthem and the other side is blasting Meshuggah's Bleed.
https://youtu.be/qc98u-eGzlc
https://youtu.be/pIOOwhmkoLo
I haven't decided which side is playing which.
You are welcome on my lawn.
If you wanted to set up giant loudspeakers, what music would you play to promote world peace and harmony?
I'll start:
https://youtu.be/l32vqiRTGew
You are welcome on my lawn.
Sorry, but socialism doesn't get any more attractive even when it's blasted at you at 150 dB.
It most certainly is rather an issue of directivity. The North Korean loudspeakers will most certainly point into North Korea. They are not "retaliation" but are drowning out the South Korean broadcasts. Being located further into North Korea, they probably achieve that purpose pretty well.
North Korea Expands Retaliatory Loudspeaker Propaganda
It's not so much retaliatory as mitigatory.
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They didn't spring for the Audioquest Everest cables with Counter Spiralling Geometry and Spread Spectrum Technology. Only 21 grand, American.
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odd you don't see RIAA screaming and threatening NK for that. In that respect I (almost) envy them...
ELOI, ELOI, LAMA SABACHTHANI!?
What is there to discuss? We know the reason is that the tubes sending the electricity to the speakers isn't wide enough.
Those poor North Koreans. If only sanctions weren't in place. Then they could purchase speaker cables that are worthy of their Dear Leader's praises:
http://www.noiseaddicts.com/20...
On second thought, let's open a window on the sanctions for this. Maybe we could bankrupt them as they trick-out their audio.
If it weren't for deadlines, nothing would be late.
I have an impression that the capital of Western Roman Empire just moved to the D.C.
It still includes Gaul, Visigoths, Britannia, the border still fluctuates along Danube river.
Now the North Korea. Is it really necessary to include it too? Why for a change not to allow this people to have their own history? Let them sort out their issues themselves.
Is that classified information?
Reminds me of a showdown between a Jamaican cafe (which liked to blast out Reggae) and another shop which was South Korean. They placed a loudspeaker above their doorway and just played South Korean news.
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Actually, they are probably more than loud enough for the intended audience: North Koreans who are in earshot of the SK propaganda generators.
They (the North) are just making noise so their own people cannot hear the propaganda from the south. Is this so hard to understand? EVERYTHING the North does is about how it plays INTERNALLY which is why they come across so nutty to the outside world. NK must carefully control the "truth" as it is commonly understood within their country.
If the reality of the situation where ever understood by the North Korean masses they would be in open revolt and fleeing their country. If they ever caught on that the majority of the world isn't starving and generally laughs at their "supreme leader" as being a fat slob who keeps his people poor and destitute in his quest for keeping power it would all be over in days. That North Korea is generally considered a joke, and that it's military power, though dangerous, is out matched, out gunned and out manned. That the minefields in the DMZ do more to keep citizens in North Korea than keeping military forces from the south out. That they are starving, only because the "Little Un" must stay in power.
So they are pointing their speakers the same direction as the South's are. They are all pointed north. Which is why you cannot hear them in the South, because it wouldn't matter and North Korea knows it.
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Back in the day, the USA produced a speaker powered by a V-8 Hemi. It was intended to be mounted on a tall tower and blast out emergency sirens for dozens of miles.
The mythbusters hooked a speaker up to a 4 cylinder diesel to try to break the car windows, but that wasn't as loud.
I don't read AC A human right
If I had control of loudspeakers that could cover a large area like that, I would have it repeat a recording of someone saying "ok google show me silly pictures of Kim Jong-un." Unfortunately, they probably don't have too many smart phones over there.
Sound bounces and distorts/phase shifts/interferes/is selectively dampened/... all over the place.
Not practical to invert at a distance in any complex environment.
Where are we going and why are we in a handbasket?
Everyone knows that Asians don't make good drivers.
My wife isn't a particularly bad driver, but she still prefers that I drive while she "helps" from the passenger seat.
Do you have ESP?
Hey! You're right. I never noticed (except for the part about no longer being News or Nerds
This is much worse than that, the S. Koreans are blasting (among other things) KPop at the Norks. I'm surprised the Norks haven't launched an attack over this dastardly attack of boys and girls groups. Lil' Kim is probably charging up the Fart-O-Cannon connected to the anterior lobes of his posterior and ready to lob ballistic SBD blobs at Seoul. The U.S. has already imposed a baked beans embargo on the Norks but to no avail...they have Double Secret Weapon...the Kimche-of-the-UnDead. The S. Koreans are quaking in their boots right now pleading for the Norks to send their nukes instead.
Too big of an area. Too many atmospheric differences, too many paths. Sounds like an interesting problem, but don't think solvable. If you could place the cancelling speakers next to the broadcast speakers (or listener) then yes.
Have the South Koreans made any notable technological advances in increasing the maximum range of a speaker
No, but the French have. Devialet Silver Phantom produces 105 dB sound pressure levels
That that is is that that that that is not is not.
I would like to know the nature of the South's "propaganda" broadcasts. If the South is simply providing factual information about the outside world to residents of the North, "propaganda" is not a good term for it.
That that is is that that that that is not is not.
What does it mean, that I read that, and started wondering if the Android drivers on Taiwanese phones are really that bad?
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
....mostly deal with internal propaganda messages and music promoting its leader Kim Jong-un.
There for a minute i thought it would be something truly horrendously horrible... like rap or country music.
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Not being familiar with standards and conditions throughout the region, my first question on hearing about the speaker-propaganda was "Why not a 100000 watt FM transmitter instead?"
I would think that even one radio receiver in a populated area would have better reach than loudspeakers across the DMZ?
Back in the day opposing side used to drop propaganda leaflets across enemy territory to ry and plant the seeds of dissent. I can't under stand why a modern version isn't used (ie cheap tablets or mp3 players parachuted from planes) to give the North Koreans an education?
For the cost of one B2 bomber you could drop one to almost every household in DPRK.
Well, I guess we could discuss the possible reasons why their speakers aren't loud enough? That's nerdy, right?
Please don't unfairly criticize the skills of our engineering brethren stuck in North Korea. It has nothing to do with lack of electricity, or proper materials, or whatever.
It's because the inverse-square law dictates that the South Koreans broadcasting propaganda to the North must broadcast at a much greater volume than the North Koreans broadcasting propaganda to the North Koreans need to do.
All of this reminded me of the lunacy of the movie Dr. Strangeglove, with military leaders explaining about the Mine Gap.
We need more speakers, bigger and louder ones too, otherwise our enemies will have a speaker advantage!