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Verizon Accused of Helping Spammers By Routing Millions of Stolen IP Addresses (spamhaus.org)

An anonymous reader writes: Spamhaus, an international non-profit organization that hunts down spammers, is accusing Verizon of indifference and facilitation of cybercrime because it failed for the past six months to take down stolen IP routes hosted on its network from where spam emails originated. Spamhaus detected over 4 million IP addresses, mainly stolen from China and Korea, and routed on Verizon's servers with forged paperwork. Spamhaus says, "For a start, it seems very strange that a large US-based ISP can be so easily convinced by abusers to route huge IP address blocks assigned to entities in the Asian-Pacific area. Such blocks are not something that can go unnoticed in the noise of everyday activity. They are very anomalous, and should call for an immediate accurate verification of the customer. Internal vetting processes at large ISPs should easily catch situations so far from normality."

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  1. Well I'm shocked, Shocked.... by bobbied · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That an ISP is being duped into routing stolen IP's so easily!

    Come on, this is Verizon we are talking about here. They don't hire the sharpest knives in the drawer and so they managed to collect a little bit of cash believing the paperwork provided by their customer? Collect the fees, route the IP and should the real owner of the address finally show up and complain, keep the fees, say your are sorry, remove the route and move on to the next prospective customer throwing money at you. Seriously, what's Verizon's incentive to go out of it's way here?

    So, these folks want to try and play the "Shame on Verizon" card now? Yea, good luck with making anything change. Verizon doesn't shame that easily or they'd be changing their consumer business practices too..

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  2. This is not surprising by surfdaddy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IMHO Verizon is right up there with Comcast in being one of the most despicable companies in the US. They bought spectrum from the FCC promising to keep it "open" but don't approve non-Verizon devices until tons of "testing" that can take a year. They are the ones who started fighting any net neutrality. And then they (according to this post) enable spammers. Because as a huge ISP, paying attention to real technical details might be too....time consuming and profit-leaching...

  3. Re:Math by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, with a government there is at least a chance that it might have your interest on its mind. At least on paper it has.

    No corporation will, ever, have your interests as a goal. Never. You're the necessary evil to profit, nothing else. If there's no profit to be had with you, you can as well not exist.

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  4. Re:Math by bobbied · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yea, but only government can take EVERYTHING you have away and give it to someone else, evil corporations cannot do that alone.

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  5. Free Secure DNS from Verisign by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Use these IPs for secure DNS from Verisign: 64.6.64.6 and 64.6.65.6
    See verisign.com/publicdns
    No tracking. No spying. Free and secure.

  6. Re:Math by sjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

    evil corporations cannot do that alone.

    If not for government, they COULD take everything away and probably would.

  7. Re:Math by Required+Snark · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Hey dumbshit, evil corporations can, and do, take everything that people own. They do it with the full co-operation of the government, and the laws are written so that the corporations always win and usually make a profit.That's because the law is for sale.

    I know you were probably living in your parents basement at the time (like you are right now), but way back in 2008 there was a huge world wide financial meltdown. You might not have been aware of it because of your troglodyte lifestyle, but for anyone who saw daylight and knew the current date when this happened it was a real big deal.

    It was due to spiraling housing prices, which were the result of Wall Street banks making loans to anyone who had a pulse. All the laws and regulations that were supposed keep the financial system stable were essentially suspended. The Bush administration and Alan Greenspan basically shut down all financial oversight. They were living the Libertarian masturbatory fantasy of laissze faire capitalism.

    Now like any wet dream, when the party was over there was an ugly sticky mess that needed to be cleaned up. The people who got screwed the worst were the schmucks who bought into the lies that Wall Street was pumping out. At any point in US history between 1929 and 2000 this could not have occurred because there were meaningful lending standards. The vast numbers of unqualified borrowers were the result of criminally irresponsible lending by the big Wall Street bank.

    So what happened to the home owners when they couldn't pay up? Bankruptcy! That means they lost everything they owned except maybe their car and some personal items. All their saving and anything material with a salable value were confiscated and given to the banks to cover the unpaid debt. That would pretty much be your definition of "take EVERYTHING you have away". And it all goes to the "evil corporations", to use your phrase.

    So remove you head from where it's stuck up you ass and try and get a clue. I know you spout the Libertard line, but out here in the real world that makes as much sense as believing the Harry Potter books are non-fiction. Corporations are not intrinsically noble or honest, and the government is not always your enemy. If you think I'm wrong then I suggest that you go someplace with no working government and see how you like it. I suggest the coastal region of Somalia.

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  8. Re:Math by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You do know that your vitriol invalidates every argument you make, or at least makes everyone tune it out, right? Try civil discourse for a change. I know it's hard but I think if you keep taking your meds you can do it.

  9. Re:Math by Aighearach · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What a load of crap. In the past when governments have been weak, that is exactly what established business interests could do. Anything and everything. Government stopping them is the only thing preventing "evil" corporations (and the rest) from taking everything you have.

  10. Re:Math by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ^this is a person that has never attempted to read and understand a mortgage.