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NY Bill Would Force Decryption of Smartphones On Demand (onthewire.io)
Trailrunner7 sends word about New York Assemblyman Matthew Titone's bill that forbids the sale of smartphones that can't be cracked by their manufacturers. On the Wire reports: "A bill that is making its way through the New York state assembly would require that smartphone manufacturers build mechanisms into the devices that would allow the companies to decrypt or unlock them on demand from law enforcement. The New York bill is the latest entry in a long-running debate between privacy advocates and security experts on one side and law enforcement agencies and many politicians on the other. The revelations of the last few years about widespread government surveillance, especially that involving cell phones and email systems, has spurred device manufacturers to increase the use of encryption. New Apple iPhones now are encrypted by default, as are some Android devices. Apple, Google, and the other major manufacturers have said that user privacy and security is their main concern. The bill that is now in committee in the New York State Assembly makes no equivocation about what it is designed to do. 'Any smartphone that is manufactured on or after January First, Two Thousand Sixteen, and sold or leased in New York, shall be capable of being decrypted and unlocked by its manufacturer or its operating system provider,' the bill says."
Just stop selling phones in New York, and sell them in every where else. Make consumers order them via Amazon.
I wonder how popular this politician will be when he realizes that this will ban the purchase of iPhones in the state of New York.
China would be so proud.
If I had access to the backdoor, I could sell it, for more money than I would make in my entire career, by orders of magnitude. Repeatedly.
Why would I not sell it? How could they ever catch me?
If passed, New York Assemblyman Matthew Titone's smartphone should be the first phone to be unlocked and decrypted on demand for the whole world to see (LIVE on CNN).
"New York Assemblyman Matthew Titone"
Let's see, no "R", "Republican", etc., so I guess we know which one it is.
Do you have ESP?
Do you think this is truly limited to NY? Or do you think it's part of a larger issue the entire country is facing?
Since when did America support such massive erosion of privacy and liberty?
In less than 20 years the US has gone from "give me liberty or give me death" to "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear".
That shit ain't unique to New York state.
Increasingly the populace will vote for stuff which a generation ago would have drawn outrage and (correctly) been compared to fascism. America is becoming everything it used to stand against.
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You seem to be missing the point where they don't care, and aren't there to protect phones being "secure".
They don't give a crap about your security. Not even a little.
And, of course, since some animals are more equal than others, they'll insist it's OK if they have things which can't be decrypted ...or at the very least will moronically make it a crime for people other than them to exploit this now useless encryption.
Do not make the mistake of thinking this is about anything other than a government who wants to exert control which defies both logic and technology ... logic isn't a factor here. Fear, paranoia, and a desire to control the world around them is what drives this.
If they can't spy on everything you do, they will try to fix that with badly written laws.
Papers please, comrade. Failure to comply is not one of your options in the new America.
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If your keys are between your ears, the 5th amendment protects you from "witnessing against yourself". You simply need to shut up and invoke the protections of the 5th amendment when asked for your encryption keys.
The thing is, of course, that nearly everyone has something to hide, not because there is anything necesarily wrong, but because there are things that are private.
For example, what percentage of Americans wear clothes in public? Is there something wrong with all of these people's bodies that they feel they should conceal them from view?
The question is, of course, rhetorical... but I think it illustrates the point: having something to hide does not mean that anything is wrong.
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If you want to see an entire political organization lose their seats, refuse to sell compliant phones.
For even more fun, sell two models - with prominent consumer warning markings - which also pop up occasionally in the interface - on the backdoored NY models.
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I can just see the argument here: "The Supreme Court ruled that "limited Copyright terms" are still limited even if they expire in 100 years. Therefore, our encrypted phones can be decrypted as far as the law is concerned. Yes, it would take 100+ years to decrypt, but that's a finite period of time and thus should be allowed."
Then, we can either throw out "all phones must be able to be decrypted" or "100+ year Copyright is still 'limited'."
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I love it when Democrats whine that Republicans are too zealous with police powers, then turn around and try to one-up them.
It's all a game: we're tricked into blaming each other, instead of actually fighting back against ever-growing state power. Any general election of "establishment Democrat" vs "establishment Republican" is an election the voters have already lost. The real battle is at the primaries, and the primaries are happening soon. Look's like we'll be spared "Bush vs Clinton" but "Rubio vs Clinton" is about the same.
I don't like Trump. I don't like Sanders. I'd take either of them in a heartbeat over "more of the same"! (Cruz looks less crazy than I'd figured - maybe it's just the contrast with Trump but I'm re-considering him).
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
Apple: Sure, I can decrypt this phone. Just tell me the password.
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New York City is small enough and close enough to New Jersey that traveling to another state to buy a phone may be reasonable.
New York state is a bit over 300 miles wide (estimated from Albany to Niagara Falls on a more or less straight route) and at its tallest about 330 miles tall (estimated from New York City to Champlain.) If you're in the center of the state (in the vicinity of Syracuse, roughly) I'd estimate you're looking at a two to three hour drive one way to get to Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, or the Canadian border.
Since this bill is in the state legislature, I'm not so sure I'd call a four or five hour round trip an easy way to skirt the law for Syracuse residents.
Bill Nye is great. But, his evil doppleganger from the 25th century, NY Bill, sounds fucking horrible.
I would not vote any at all. If I am asked to choose to eat one of different kind of poo, why should I pick one to eat if I am also allowed to pick none of them? It is stupid to "must pick" one if you can simply "not do it" instead.
You seem to be confused, thinking that you must choose one of the poos in front of you. You can always write in filet mignon. Sure, you prolly won't get it, but you can still write it in.
Unless you're in a non-swing state. Then it might be possible, but only if voters of the less popular poo color realize that their poo cannot win that state, so all they are doing is voting for who the runner up will be.
Or to get rid of the analogy... voting Democrat in a solidly red state, or Republican in a solidly blue state, is pointless. The person you are voting for can not and will not win your state. So might as well vote for some third option. If the polls read 60% D, 39% R, and 1% Other, that's just business as usual. But if they read 60% D, 1% R, and 39% Other, then people start to go "WTF??".
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