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Are Phone Numbers Doomed To Die? (fortune.com)

HughPickens.com writes: Valentina Zarya writes at Fortune Magazine that the top 2016 prediction for David Marcus, Facebook's vice president of messaging products, is the disappearance of the phone number and its replacement by applications like Facebook's Messenger. " You can make video and voice calls while at the same time not needing to know someone's phone number," writes Marcus. "You don't need to have a Facebook account to use Messenger anymore, and it's also a cross platform experience – so you can pick up where you left off whether you're on a desktop computer, a tablet, or your phone." Jonah Berger, Wharton professor and author of "Contagious: Why Things Catch On" agrees. "For most of us, I think it's really hard to actually remember what someone's phone number actually is. We use our phones so often or we click on a button that has it. But if there was a test where you had to say, do you remember your best friends number or could you type in your best friend's number I think most of us would fail."

But not everyone agrees that Marcus' predictions are objective and disinterested. "It's all very well the company wanting to be the de facto Internet — especially in places like India. But drier minds and eyes might wonder whether the wish to eradicate phone numbers has something to do with not everyone having yet given Facebook their phone numbers," says Chris Matyszczyk. "It may well be that phone numbers will disappear. Some, though, might wonder how making their disappearance a company theme squares with what Marcus claims is the ultimate goal: 'It's all about delight.' This one's easy. It's all about delighting Facebook."

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  1. I can see this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But I hope the "database" isn't Facebook. I would hope it would be something like DNS/Bind in the IP world....

    1. Re:I can see this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Facebook boss says people will flock to Facebook. Who'd thunk it?

    2. Re:I can see this by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I would love it to be ip addresses, but I want cellphones to be forced to allow me to do address blocks and wildcard blocking.

      The fact that I cant on my cellphone put in 1800* to block every single 800 number from calling my phone is stupid. the phones can do it, why the hell doesnt google bake this into the damn os?

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    3. Re:I can see this by JonahsDad · · Score: 5, Informative

      The fact that I cant on my cellphone put in 1800* to block every single 800 number from calling my phone is stupid. the phones can do it, why the hell doesnt google bake this into the damn os?

      Cyanogenmod. Enable wildcards.
      1800.*

    4. Re:I can see this by SuricouRaven · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Worse.

      "Ok... I got facebook, skype and AIM. You got any of those?"
      "Wow, you're old. Nope, don't use those. I got Whatsapp and telegraph. You good for any of those?"
      "Nope. Hang on... how about kik? Not used that in a while."
      "Kik, no. Really, you should just up... oh, hang on. I think I have ICQ from back in the day. Don't know if it still works, got that one?"
      "Not any more. Look, how about we just swap phone numbers?"

  2. Wishful thinking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I bet Facebook would think twice about wanting to replace phone numbers with Facebook IDs when they see the regulations common carriers operate under.

  3. Nonsense by gweihir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Quite a few people are not on Facebook, Twitter, etc. It would also be _hugely_ unprofessional to do any job-related communication over such a venue.

    This is just the usual bullshit from people that get starry-eyes when fantasizing how the future will be, but have no clue how reality actually works. Basically the only old global communication channel that has vanished is the telegram. And there are services in many countries that will print out an email and deliver it to the target address for a fee. So, really, complete nonsense.

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  4. Phone Numbers by ADRA · · Score: 5, Insightful

    - Universally Ubiquitous
    - Nationalized
    - Lowest Common Denominator
    - (for POTS anyway) Pretty damn rock solid in most of the world

    Did Facebook kill Email? No.
    Did Google kill the address bar? No.
    Did Apple kill the PC? No.
    Did solar panels (insert any other energy technology) kill the grid? No.
    Will Facebook messenger (or any company-centric IM system) kill telephones? No.

    Next flamebait topic please.

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    1. Re:Phone Numbers by Rick+Zeman · · Score: 5, Funny

      - Universally Ubiquitous
      - Nationalized
      - Lowest Common Denominator
      - (for POTS anyway) Pretty damn rock solid in most of the world

      Did Facebook kill Email? No.
      Did Google kill the address bar? No.
      Did Apple kill the PC? No.
      Did solar panels (insert any other energy technology) kill the grid? No.
      Will Facebook messenger (or any company-centric IM system) kill telephones? No.

      Next flamebait topic please.

      Yes, but video killed the radio star....

  5. Facebook will go first by mbone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hereby predict that Facebook will disappear before phone numbers.

    Let's come back in 20 years and compare my track record with David Marcus's.

  6. nonsense. by swschrad · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "phone numbers" are how the switching -- and billing -- are done for landlines, cell phones, and for many data services like DSL.

    they are not going away. he can hide his, but he can't change everybody elses.

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  7. Re:Universal by caseih · · Score: 5, Informative

    And that's what XMPP was supposed to have fixed. XMPP was really about decentralization and federation. You simply didn't need an account with Google or any particular company to participate. Then Google decided to cut off federation with gmail, making what could have been a great, widely-used protocol, into something incredibly broken. It was this breaking of XMPP by Google (after years of promoting XMPP) that marked the beginning of the change from "don't be evil" into what it has become today.

    I used to run my own Jabber server with my own domain, communicating with gmail users and others, and it worked lovely until Google decided to cut off access to their users. Suddenly my own server became nearly useless with all my non-techy friends suddenly unable to communicate. Sure I could have granted them all accounts on my server, but most of them had just used the google chat program, and switching them to something more open would be difficult for them, to say nothing of *their* friends who are on gmail anyway.

    So XMPP is essentially dead, thanks to google and we are not better off for it, no matter what they want us to believe about Hangouts.