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World Bank Says Internet Technology May Widen Inequality (nytimes.com)

HughPickens.com writes: Somini Sengupta writes in the NY Times that a new report from the World Bank concludes that the vast changes wrought by Internet technology have not expanded economic opportunities or improved access to basic public services but stand to widen inequalities and even hasten the hollowing out of middle-class employment. "Digital technologies are spreading rapidly, but digital dividends — growth, jobs and services — have lagged behind," says the bank in a news release announcing the report. "If people have the right skills, digital technology will help them become more efficient and productive, but if the right skills are lacking, you'll end up with a polarized labor market and more inequality," says Uwe Deichmann. Those who are already well-off and well-educated have been able to take advantage of the Internet economy, the report concludes pointedly, but despite the expansion of Internet access, 60 percent of humanity remains offline. According to the report, in developed countries and several large middle-income countries, technology is automating routine jobs, such as factory work, and some white-collar jobs. While some workers benefit, "a large share" of workers get pushed down to lower-paying jobs that cannot be automated. "What we're seeing is not so much a destruction of jobs but a reshuffling of jobs, what economists have been calling a hollowing out of the labor market. You see the share of mid-level jobs shrinking and lower-end jobs increasing."

The report adds that in the developing world digital technologies are not a shortcut to development, though they can accelerate it if used in the right way. "We see a lot of disappointment and wasted investments. It's actually quite shocking how many e-government projects fail," says Deichmann. "While technology can be extremely helpful in many ways, it's not going to help us circumvent the failures of development over the last couple of decades. You still have to get the basics right: education, business climate, and accountability in government."

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  1. Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The same argument could be made for reading.

    1. Re:Bullshit by JoeMerchant · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The same argument could be made for reading.

      Don't know whether to mod up or reply...absolutely true. Here's the World Bank, creator of debt among people who have no money, arguing that sharing information more freely will widen inequality. Though their logic may be sound if you select your samples very carefully (the richest will get richer), I can't see how the world's poorest having access to history's accumulated knowledge including up to the second latest research, more extensive and easier to access than any pre-internet library that ever was, even if you have to walk a day and wait in line for hours to get access, could be anything but good for the world's poorest people. Sure, people with better access will have more advantage, but that doesn't mean that removing access for all would in any way benefit the least fortunate.

    2. Re:Bullshit by roman_mir · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sure, but all government is based on the worst edge case scenario. Terrorist attack is a very unlikely event, war on drugs, war on poverty, SS, Medicare, minimum wage, FDIC, FHA, all of these things start by rallying the mob around the least likely edge cases. Scarrying people is always the most politically profitable strategy and it works. Taking the worst edge case scenario and building a policy around it that negatively impacts everyone... No child left behind means that all children will be left behind. Government doing anything to 'help' some small group leads to the worst possible outcome for all.

    3. Re: Bullshit by JoeMerchant · · Score: 2

      Privatize everything, then we can go back to donkey trails between private estates and market centers.

  2. And now for something really controversial by MikeRT · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It is believed that modern society in the West developed by the upper-middle and upper classes' excess kids effectively outbreeding the lower classes over hundreds of years, resulting in gains in health, IQ and longer time preferences. That's a fusion of nature and nurture reinforcing one another.

    What have we done for the last 2 generations? We've inverted it with the more intelligent having fewer and fewer kids. Now we have an economy where getting a good job increasingly depends on biological factors that are not being selected for in our reproductive habits as they once were, resulting in the virtuous cycle of the previous centuries becoming a vicious feedback cycle.

    1. Re:And now for something really controversial by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      We've inverted it with the more intelligent having fewer and fewer kids.

      We realized it is more fun to have more disposable income and the freedom to use and enjoy it.

      It's more fun to have a sports car, nice house and toys and freedom to travel, than to be anchored down with a house full or yard apes/rug rats/curtain climbers.

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    2. Re:And now for something really controversial by Nutria · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It is believed

      By whom, and with what evidence?

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    3. Re:And now for something really controversial by Nutria · · Score: 2

      We realized it is more fun to have more ...

      Unfortunately, fun does not perpetuate a functional society.

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    4. Re:And now for something really controversial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The difficulty with the idiocracy hypothesis is not that the less intelligent outbreed the more intelligent (so you have fewer captains of industry and more rank-and file... the world will survive) it's that the intelligent are having to subsidize an ever increasing amount of the less intelligent.

      Yeah yeah yeah, 1%; that's not the point. From laws to protect idiocy from itself, which end up as hindrances to find better solutions, to intelligence being looked upon as near witchcraft; society is heavily geared towards mediocrity so the pinheads have a fighting chance.

      But it comes at the cost of further development, and especially when the intelligent figure "why bother" to explore new horizons, especially when they have to fight off the idiot hoard as well.

      Regression towards mean is a scary prospect when the lower bound keeps sinking.

    5. Re:And now for something really controversial by Nidi62 · · Score: 2

      It is believed

      By whom, and with what evidence?

      Ancient alien theorists?

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    6. Re:And now for something really controversial by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Unfortunately, fun does not perpetuate a functional society.

      No single thing does, but I would argue that the enjoyment of at least a portion of one's time, be it at work or play, is an important element in a functional society.

    7. Re:And now for something really controversial by swb · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I could mostly buy into the idea that this was something of a self-reinforcing process where the people who got into tribal leadership positions initially did so through some genetic advantages in health, strength, and intelligence.

      The initial advantage (probably in hunting) gave them access to superior nutrition, increasing their own survival and increasing the likelihood of having offspring, and offspring that grew larger and healthier.

      As cultures and roles solidified, these people were in a good place to claim leadership based on demonstrated attributes (leading more successful hunts, killing more enemies) as well as possessing some inherent personality traits that gave them more charisma or being able to defeat challengers from within their own ranks.

      Over time this leadership group evolved into an aristocracy, whose superior access to food, shelter, selection of mates (IIRC, there have been cross-cultural studies of beauty that align with physical traits associated with childbearing) likely enabled their children significant advantages, warding off some of the endemic developmental problems of poor nutrition, disease exposure, and so on, in addition to situational advantages -- like being able to gain exposure to learning and teaching versus taking immediate risks (I would imagine being taught how to hunt dangerous game or fight in combat by someone skilled and successful at it would have some survival value versus doing it without much exposure to training).

      I doubt it's a perfect long term system, as eventually the aristocracy can grow sclerotic and actual shelter the weak, in addition to inbreeding promoting genetic defects -- look at hemophilia among the European aristocracy.

      As a side note, I've done some work at an extremely exclusive country club, and I'm always kind of surprised at how healthy and vigorous appearing the rich are. Slim, well-toned, attractive, few signs of any of the dietary-driven obesity of poor people or evidence of the chronic illnesses and development issues.

    8. Re:And now for something really controversial by chihowa · · Score: 2

      Your theory might be more compelling if extreme wealth, income, or any other proxy for appreciation by society had much of a correlation with intelligence. "Captains of industry" have never really been known for their vast intelligence (except possibly in financial areas), but are instead characterized by their charisma, tenacity, or ruthlessness. The scientists, engineers, and thinkers are typically middle class and would be lumped into your rank-and-file category.

      The intelligent are having to subsidize the unintelligent that dominate both the upper and lower classes (and the middle, too). The people who change our world through massive advances in our understanding of the universe are already living on a pittance while our society rewards (and idolizes) the ones who are most talented as swindling others.

      Keeping up future development while keeping the ignorant hordes fed is pretty cheap compared to doing so while trying to sate the greed of the ignorant aristocracy.

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  3. Using the excess of workforce by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The problem now is that the brilliant minds that create entirely new occupations mostly focus that creativity on occupations that are directly dependent on the latest technology. This is natural, as where would you find new occupations easier than in new technologies?

    However, we need a brilliant mind that finds new occupations that, while using the new technologies, don't depend on them. We need someone to find a way to use the excess workforce created by automatisation in such a way as to not require from that workforce the very fact that made it replaceable by automatisation.

    The question that needs to be answered isn't "what new jobs are created by the new technological environnement" as the answer to that will make you fight for workers with every other innovator.

    The question is "what new jobs can be done by those who the technological environnement made superfluous." So, essentially, what can I do with a million people whose previous occupation is automatisable?

    I believe those new jobs will come in the form of "computer assisted individual aimed art.", like, for example, "painting pretty environnements and props for VR semi-custom games" or "supporting actors in personal movies in which the customer is the protagonist"

    1. Re:Using the excess of workforce by Thanshin · · Score: 2

      Not humanitarian projects.

      I believe the objective must be fundamentally self-serving for the process of excess workforce employment.

  4. Re:Hoarding wealth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A lot of threats from a guy who spends his day playing WoW and facebooking on his Apple phone.

    You'd never rise up because (a) you have it too good (b) you're easily manipulated by media (c) you're fundamentally lazy

  5. Just look at China by jonsmirl · · Score: 5, Interesting

    China is the top country for poor people moving into the middle class. A lot of that movement is from millions of people setting up mom and pop shops. Cell phones are very important to the functioning of this segment of the market and cell phone are a window into the Internet. So I'd say they have it backwards. They are focusing on the small number of tech lottery winners and ignoring the major improvement cell phones has had on ordinary people's lives.

    1. Re:Just look at China by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Informative

      China is the top country for poor people moving into the middle class. A lot of that movement is from millions of people setting up mom and pop shops.

      It USED to be that way in the US too....but of late, between Federal, State and Local regulations, red tape and taxes, it is damned hard to start up, much less run a small business these days. So many of the rules and all, are easy for a large corporation to handle, they can dedicate whole departments to the regulatory paperwork and tax payment schedules.

      But it is a bit cryptic and confusing to the common person, who would be better served spending more of their time grooming and growing their business and business processes.

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  6. Central Banks Responsible for this by trout007 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I worked in automation equipment for many years. Companies would typically come to use when they needed to expand capacity. When we would work up a quote we would look at their current process and come up with several options from very simple conveying system with manual tool stations for the operators to fully automated systems. Obviously there was a huge capital cost difference between these options. Two big factors that went into the recommendation were the labor rates and interest rates. The companies were looking for a specific return on investment. In a free market when interest rates are low and labor rates are high due to low unemployment and lots of savings it is better to automate as the interest on capital costs are low. When the interest rates are high and labor rates are low due to high unemployment and low savings it is much better to hire people and go with manual stations. This is as it should be and would lead to sustained growth.

    But when the Central Banks lower interest rates way below the market rates it makes automation cheap no matter what is going on in the economy. This is the situation we are in. It is cheaper to automate even though labor rates are low and there is low workplace participation. Allow rates to return to their market levels and this will change and we can go back to sustainable growth. Of course we won't do this because it would hurt the Wall St. Banks and politicians pocketbooks.

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  7. Well if the world bank says it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    It must mean exactly the opposite. EG "The internet makes the bars and door of their guilded cage visible."

  8. Enablers always widen inequality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Anytime you provide society with a productive enabler, those who are more eager to build wealth will use it to, you guessed it, build wealth. The lazy of society will not use it to build wealth.

    There are always people who are more willing to work, more willing to produce, and more eager to build wealth, than other people. This is what so-called social scientists do not understand about human nature. People are not all the same, and the only way to make them so is to DISABLE the eager beavers (which are the vast minority of people).

    It is easier to prohibit someone being productive than it is to force someone to be productive. Enforcing a policy of equal poverty (except for the ruling elite, of course) has been the goal of the leftist ruling elite since the dawn of human civilization.

    1. Re:Enablers always widen inequality by sinij · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This is Utopian meritocratic feel-good outlook. I wish I could agree with you. Unfortunately, human condition gets in the way. Productive enables don't generally get rich, instead entrenched and corrupt power brokers do. Look at US in the last 50 years, less than a dozen of 'productive enablers' really made it, but metric f-ton of leeches golden parachuted into ridiculous wealth.

  9. Re:All hope is not lost! by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 3, Funny

    >> There must be some gadget that can magically allow people to pull themselves up by the bootstraps!

    I thought that was "one laptop per child." :)

  10. Ah Yes, The Inequality Concern by rapierian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As always, addressed best by Margaret Thatcher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  11. Re:they are right! by dryeo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For now. How would things be in eg America if the government had to balance its budget? Probably be done through extreme austerity and all those Walmart workers would suddenly have a hell of a time making ends meet without government help.

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