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Building a Laptop Enclosure To Last (makezine.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Build quality is a characteristic many people value in laptop design, but one that often goes unrepresented on a spec sheet. Over at Make, Kurt Mottweiler took build quality to the next level with his laptop enclosure design, which replaces the typical plastic clamshell with a wood veneer filled with e-glass cloth and cork composite. The article shows his build process in detail. Quoting: "The LCD panel and main enclosure components are assembled using vacuum bag clamping techniques. After assembling the layers of the panels at the glue station, the assembly is transferred to the molding station where it is put into a seamed bag and sealed up with a roller rod and clamps. Then a special vacuum pump is used to evacuate the bag and allow atmospheric pressure to clamp the layers together while the epoxy binder cures. ... To increase the strength, improve heat dissipation, and enhance the aesthetic properties of the Heirloom's main enclosure, I chose to use an undulating shape across the width of the bottom panel. The slight wave provides a semi-monocoque structure that stiffens the otherwise flat section of the case while providing for a measure of air flow across the bottom of the case."

116 comments

  1. A little big isn't it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Outside of the Kaypro or the Compaq luggable, this is the largest laptop I have seen!

    1. Re:A little big isn't it? by AchilleTalon · · Score: 1

      It comes with a trailer.

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    2. Re: A little big isn't it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This article is clearly an ad :(

    3. Re:A little big isn't it? by davester666 · · Score: 1

      You want a Popeye arm, haul around the original Apple laptop or, even better, the Commodore SX-64...

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  2. Quality, novilty or luxury? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Seems like milling a case out of aluminium would have more qualities that are necessary for a portable device

    1. Re:Quality, novilty or luxury? by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      If you want it to last, titanium.

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    2. Re: Quality, novilty or luxury? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Depends on your priorities. If you are aiming for minimum weight and want something so thin that flexing is an issue, then sone titanium alloys are great. If not, other alloys that will ding up less at the expense of a small amount more weight, and you can design it to be more resistant to flex by giving components more space.

    3. Re: Quality, novilty or luxury? by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      Depends on your priorities. If you are aiming for minimum weight and want something so thin that flexing is an issue, then sone titanium alloys are great. If not, other alloys that will ding up less at the expense of a small amount more weight, and you can design it to be more resistant to flex by giving components more space.

      Do you have the slightest idea exactly how tough and strong Titanium is?

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    4. Re:Quality, novilty or luxury? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shitty heat transfer... But I guess that could be made to work for it. You wouldnt get roasted lap syndrom.

    5. Re: Quality, novilty or luxury? by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Actually, I think he might be right. That's why Victorinox switched from pure titanium to titanium allow - if I recall correctly, If hit with something even remotely hard, they dent. I had the funny looking cap from a basement jack (the top square piece) come down on mine and it left a pretty good gouge in it. They replaced it with one that was an alloy and the person mentioned it was quite common.

      Err... That's every last bit of evidence I've got. I'm a bit sick still so won't bother looking it up. Take it with a grain of salt if you will.

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  3. Looks nice , but ... by PPH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... who wants a laptop that will last? What happens when new processors and technology come out and you've got to scrap your investment in aesthetics?

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    1. Re:Looks nice , but ... by oakgrove · · Score: 5, Informative

      Doesn't look like it'd be much trouble (relative to building this in the first place) to replace the innards every 3-5 years or so if you felt the need. Besides, the open-source Novena computer designed by Bunnie Huang and Sean Cross that this is built to enclose has as one of its goals a "requirement for user access to the internal components" so I'm guessing being able to upgrade iteratively is kind of the idea.

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    2. Re:Looks nice , but ... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      I do and I pay $3500 for it.
      Panasonic toughbook. I can beat someone to death with it and it will still work perfectly. I have thrown it 15 feet into the back of a pickup truck without worry just to freak out guys on the worksite.

      And the US military agrees with me as they use toughbooks.

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    3. Re:Looks nice , but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you beat someone to death with it, it might be usable, but only to the three letter organizations. Are you sure you want them to know what you've been doing with your laptop exluding the fact that you beat someone to death with it?

    4. Re:Looks nice , but ... by Tx · · Score: 1

      I get the feeling it's built more as a curiosity/collector's item than something anybody is going to use on a daily basis now, much less into the future. No mention of the weight, but the thing looks huge and costs $5000, so I suspect whichever desks it gets parked on, it's staying there. In this age of thin, light devices, I really can't see many people wanting to heave that behemoth around. And as a curiosity or collector's item, it doesn't really matter much how future-proof it is.

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    5. Re: Looks nice , but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Oh so you're the guy who bought it. We had been wondering.

    6. Re:Looks nice , but ... by TWX · · Score: 2

      "Replace the innards" doesn't work for most laptops as each laptop line is engineered as an assembly based on the components that are considered necessary at the time. Fifteen years ago laptops would have needed a floppy diskette drive, a CD-ROM drive, a 2.5" hard disk drive, PS/2 port, 15-pin SVGA, a 9-pin RS-232 serial port, a dual-slot PCMCIA slot, and an RJ11 socket tied to an internal modem. Some machines would have had a 25-pin Parallel port too.

      Now, we need SSD, USB, 802.11 wireless with internal antennas, SDXC socket, possibly SIM 3G/4G capability with internal antennas, digital video-out like HDMI or Mini-HDMI or a Displayport variant, and on machines designed to be workstations, docking ports and RJ-45 Ethernet port. Even optical drives are not considered essential anymore and are limited to specific models.

      Now, look at the price of a high-end laptop and of a low-end laptop. When we bought my wife's Thinkpad X301 when it it was new it was about $1700, and was equipped with just about every option available at the time. When we replaced it a little over a year ago with a Thinkpad Yoga 12 it was around $1200, with the Core i7, the 8GB RAM, the big SSD (can't remember offhand if 512GB or 256GB), etc. We got five years of usage out of the X301 and it got dragged across two continents and probably sixty flights. Amortized over time it cost $340 per year while it was in regular service. If that Yoga 12 lasts five years it'll cost $240/year, and so far it's handled probably half a dozen flights without any problems. We replaced the X301 in-part because the performance was no longer meeting our needs, and in-part because the battery was getting to the point where it wasn't lasting even two hours anymore, so no good on flights, and the cost of a battery was high enough relative to the performance of the machine to turn us away from buying another.

      It does not make economic sense to build a portable, personal computer to last longer than five years when the computer will no longer meet the needs of the user after those five years are up. Moore's Law states that computing power doubles every eighteen months. Assuming the same class of machine, replacement computer five years later is around eight times more powerful than the computer it replaced. From an engineering perspective, it simply doesn't make sense to overbuild on orders of magnitude past the realistic lifespan of the computer.

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    7. Re:Looks nice , but ... by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      Technology has long surpassed most people's computing requirements. There's currently no "killer app" that requires a leap in processing power or other resources. Build quality and longevity are reasonable selling points. If you want something small and trendy, there's always the tablet. If you have to have the latest white hot technology, there's always Alienware and the like.

      I recently did an ssd upgrade on my nine year old Latitude, and it still fits my needs. The hardware or case will fail long before I outgrow it.

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    8. Re:Looks nice , but ... by oakgrove · · Score: 5, Informative

      "Replace the innards" doesn't work for most laptops

      This isn't "most laptops". This is a custom hand built enclosure for an open source computer[1] designed specifically to be user upgradable. Your entire comment makes no sense in the context of this article.

      [1] http://www.kosagi.com/w/index....

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    9. Re:Looks nice , but ... by sims+2 · · Score: 1

      SSD? Or is it just that good at reducing the shock to the hdd? Even parked I don't know of any laptop hdds that would handle that.

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    10. Re:Looks nice , but ... by rasmusbr · · Score: 1

      Well, most people only want to use computers for the things that currently available computers can do. That has been true for as long as I can remember.

      I remember thinking that a 50 MHz 486 was easily fast enough for everything that one could possible want to do with a personal computer, except for a few things that crazy people suggested we should do, like watching TV-quality videos, or running software in a web browser. Soon enough, Intel launched faster CPU:s. Some of those crazy people wrote software that couldn't quite run on the old 486's boxes and that software turned out to be something that people wanted to use and then people switched to the faster CPU:s. This process continued until Intel and AMD reached the point where they could no longer make faster CPU:s.

    11. Re:Looks nice , but ... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Funny you should mention that. I built a computer case in 1999 out of wood. It's quite crappy by my crafting skills today but I still have it. It has otherwise very modern guts in it.

      That is a problem with laptops where things are built to be small, but if you make something yourself you can make it in a way that is upgradable.

    12. Re:Looks nice , but ... by roc97007 · · Score: 2

      Computers made ten years ago will do the things that currently available computers can do, with a vanishingly few exceptions. Currently available computers can't do 100% of current things either. ("cost effective" computers and high end games, for instance.) I'm writing this on a seven year old Dell laptop. My computer at home is a ten year old motherboard in an enclosure from the turn of the century. Yet I make a small living as a photographer running the current Adobe suite on that machine.

      There are a few people who have exceptional needs. For the great majority, there just isn't anything they do that requires a leap in resources. We have long ago reached the flat end of the curve.

      But go ahead and replace your perfectly good unit that has resources you don't fully utilize for a more powerful computer that will have even more resources you don't fully utilize. You're helping to prop up the computer industry so the rest of us don't have to.

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    13. Re:Looks nice , but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There no reason the components of the enclosure itself couldn't be made as modular as the innards.

    14. Re:Looks nice , but ... by rasmusbr · · Score: 1

      The thing is, it no longer matters how much money we throw at making CPU:s and GPU:s do more computations per unit of energy. The laws of physics and the manufacturing technique (lithography) dictate that 4 or 5 GHz is pretty much the limit.

      There are people who want faster CPU:s and GPU:s for crazy things like virtual reality games, but they're not getting faster chips anytime soon, so those ideas will have to wait, or will have to be adjusted down to what the hardware can do. Maybe it's okay for VR games to be cartoony and pixelated.

    15. Re:Looks nice , but ... by PPH · · Score: 2

      I have an IBM PC Case (Model 5150) with modern guts. I had to do some sheet metal work to the back to fit modern motherboard I/O ports, the power supply, etc. But yes, laptops are small and there are few standards for board sizes. One approach to upgrading a laptop might be to stick a Raspberry Pi where the old system board was

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    16. Re:Looks nice , but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do internal components include the display? If this is all about aesthetics, then a laptop with a five year old panel (or even a new panel with five year old tech) is at a big disadvantage.

    17. Re:Looks nice , but ... by Lumpy · · Score: 2

      Previous one was HDD, and they come with a half inch super soft rubber isolation all around the hard drive. current one that I throw regularly is an SSD.

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    18. Re:Looks nice , but ... by TWX · · Score: 1

      There no reason the components of the enclosure itself couldn't be made as modular as the innards.

      Except that the components inside are off-the-shelf from a specific vendor, and a lot of interconnections are proprietary, even if just the ribbon cables.

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    19. Re:Looks nice , but ... by TWX · · Score: 1

      Open architectures have been tried in portable computers before. I have one sitting under my desk at work, a 100MHz Pentium that was sold through a local vendor much in the same way that ATX for tower PC cases and NLX for desktop "pizza box" PC cases were open. At the time proprietary portable computers were larger than they are now and this was a little larger still, but is probably smaller than the wood-case portable featured in the article.

      The size needed to make an open architecture, let lone fully open-source hardware, does not appear to be conducive to portable computers. That thing is huge. There is no way that I could justify traveling with that computer, either for work around-town or for air travel, because I can't dedicate that kind of weight or space to a computer. Hell, it's bigger than the Alienware M17 that I use as a desktop at work, which is far too big to take with me for any kind of real work.

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    20. Re: Looks nice , but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look ,a poor person who did not know that panasonic made toughbooks. Welcome to 1999 little kiddo!

    21. Re:Looks nice , but ... by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      I want a laptop that would last. I haven't needed a new processor (on a laptop) in... I don't know. It doesn't take much CPU power to render a webpage, or operate a text editor, or even to compile anymore.

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    22. Re:Looks nice , but ... by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      then a laptop with a five year old panel (or even a new panel with five year old tech) is at a big disadvantage.

      Noooo

      In the olden days, you were not stuck with a glossy monstrosity with 1080p as your maximum vertical resolution. These are recent developments. It is the new laptop screens that are crap.

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    23. Re:Looks nice , but ... by jonnythan · · Score: 1

      There's a reason user-upgradeable portable computers isn't really a thing. It doesn't make sense. There's no advantage to it economically or ergonomically.

    24. Re:Looks nice , but ... by jonnythan · · Score: 1

      If you're a professional photographer working on a 10-year-old motherboard, you're really doing yourself a disservice. The small investment to current-generation CPU would save you an enormous amount of time.

    25. Re:Looks nice , but ... by oakgrove · · Score: 1

      There's no advantage to it economically or ergonomically.

      You make the same oversight as your sibling poster. Remember, context. Neither of the options present represent the motivations of the creator of the laptop enclosure referred to in the article.

      I endeavored to make the Heirloom design as successful as possible given the large scale of the challenge and very small scale of production. It in no way addresses issues of consumer-grade design or production. Each of these computers is essentially a one-off project. I believe the Heirloom accomplishes most of the goals I set for the project and should serve users well both as an unusual, useful tool and as a unique, if very small, part of computer design history.

      Emphasis mine.

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    26. Re:Looks nice , but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's pretty narrow minded. You only have to look so far as the desktop to see that the enclosure, interconnection and form factors can be standardized. Just because it was once proprietary doesn't mean it needs to be. I'd take the thickness of even a 2001 laptop (hell, my laptop for work is thicker than what I had then) for the ability to have something that's put together by me. It's been quite a while now since I last had use for my desktop since I prefer the mobility of a laptop, even if the vast majority of my use is at home. I don't see anything impractical about it.

    27. Re: Looks nice , but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you need to re-examine Moore's Law. It is not a fundamental force and is not a measure of speed, simply an observation on transistor count, the resulting performance change is relativistic to the type of use case.

      Cycles per clock is dead and Moore's Law has changed as it applies to computer performance in the era of Multiple Cores.

        You are not going to see something like Moore's Law being applied to an increasing number of Cores unless we ditch the existing architecture and move to a more RISC than RISC based ones.

      The move to Arm only gets you so far.

    28. Re:Looks nice , but ... by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      In the olden days, you were stuck at 1024x768 or 1280x800 on an affordable laptop and today there's plenty of 1440p, 1800p etc. if you look for it (not that I'm interested in such a high pixel density. With no special software scaling I find the pixels to be too small on 15.6" 1080p)

    29. Re:Looks nice , but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Custom hand built = real world?

    30. Re:Looks nice , but ... by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      Might be a socket AM2 motherboard with an AM3 processor in it. Takes a now mediocre quad core that is still reasonable, 8GB memory or even up to 16GB as 4GB sticks of DDR2 exist and pretty much only run on that platform. Else it might be an Intel (post-Pentium 4) with up to 8GB memory.

      It's running Windows so the graphics card runs fast and stable whether it's wildly outdated or from 2010 or later. Takes any storage, hard drives and all. An SSD if present is stuck at less than 300MB/s but who cares, and you can even add a very cheap two-port controller, SATA 6Gb/s crippled by the PCIe 1x interface (5Gb/s)

      Age is becoming a poor proxy for judging computer speed. A brand new laptop isn't really better, although a modern 2GHz Intel core has quite a bit more punch than an older 3GHz one.
      My guess is the motherboard just doesn't die despite years of beating. 2006 is past the worst years of really crappy, unreliable hardware.

    31. Re:Looks nice , but ... by toddestan · · Score: 2

      In the real olden days, you had 1600x1200 and 1920x1200 screens, available even on entry-level laptops. IBM even made a 2048x1536 screen for a while, back when Thinkpads were Thinkpads. Then everything went to shit with 16:9, and we had the dark days of 1366x768 everywhere. It's only been the last year or two where laptop resolutions started to exceed what was common 10 years ago.

    32. Re: Looks nice , but ... by cthulhu11 · · Score: 1

      With modern seat pitches flights are anon-sequitur, as it's unsafe to use any laptop.

  4. Ok... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where is the picture of this laptop?

    1. Re:Ok... by mschuyler · · Score: 1

      RTFA

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    2. Re:Ok... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Maybe he's on a slow connection and waiting for all the 97 stories on the front page to load.

      I don't know which is more annoying, that or when they spread one article over a dozen pages.

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    3. Re:Ok... by mschuyler · · Score: 1

      Say what? The article is on a single page. Further, if you want to see a picture, you're gonna have to load it up. It's one of those funny things about them Interwebs.

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  5. Hmmmmmmm by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    I don't know how durable it will actually be, but it sure looks nice.

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    1. Re:Hmmmmmmm by Rei · · Score: 1

      Composites are physically very strong, and the use of epoxy rather than polyester will improve the lifespan. Still, composites yellow in UV light (particularly if the binder isn't designed to be UV stable, but to some degree even if it is) and the binder becomes more brittle. Also while they're strong (as in resistance to breakage) they're not hard (as in Mohs hardness), so they can still get scratched up. There are some scratch resistant coatings one could use (to varying degrees of effectiveness), but if you wanted natural scratch resistance without it being brittle you'd probably want something like chromium or ceramic-matrix composites.
         

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    2. Re:Hmmmmmmm by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

      Composites are physically very strong, and the use of epoxy rather than polyester will improve the lifespan.

      That's the thing...I rarely keep a laptop for more than 4 or 5 years so the durability of the case usually isn't an issue. But to have one in a gorgeous, stabilized wood case with some rich-looking wood grain, that would be pretty nice.

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  6. Or... by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How I Built an Heirloom Laptop

    Or: How I have money and time than you

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    1. Re:Or... by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      More, dammit. More money and time. See, I don't even have time to preview my Slashdot posts.

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    2. Re: Or... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Don't worry, ADD is common these

    3. Re:Or... by TWX · · Score: 1

      Woodworking itself isn't all that expensive if you already have the tools. I had to buy some maple when we were rebuilding a TV-show prop and the 8' hardwood boards were like $15 each if memory serves.

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    4. Re: Or... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apart from the expensive part, woodworking isn't expensive.

      Stunning insight, there.

    5. Re: Or... by TWX · · Score: 1

      No, if one is already into woodworking, then building something small like this doesn't cost very much.

      Based on the craftsmanship of the end result the person is already into woodworking. The bulk of the purchases for this project are supplies, not tools, and that's assuming that there isn't a cache of cutoffs or other remnants to use.

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    6. Re:Or... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Parse that sentence. "I have money and time than you" Maybe you should get a computer.

      If I was Bill Gates: "First, I want a kickass motherboard...."

    7. Re:Or... by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Woodworking itself isn't all that expensive if you already have the tools. I had to buy some maple when we were rebuilding a TV-show prop and the 8' hardwood boards were like $15 each if memory serves.

      And that's why you learn where your local makerspace is. Because they will often have all the tools for you to use for a nominal membership fee. Good ones will have metalworking tools as well, and the fancy ones have CNC and laser cutters for use, as well.

      As well as having people who know people who can get you the training you need to use the tools safely.

    8. Re: Or... by toddestan · · Score: 1

      A good set of tools is a one-time investment that will literally last a lifetime if you take care of them. After that it's pretty much just supplies.

  7. That's neat and all by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    but I'm still going to have to replace it when the power jack dies :).

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  8. Hardware is so cheap by AchilleTalon · · Score: 1

    I doubt people are really valueing that much a strudy laptop enclosure when the hardware it contains is so cheap to acquire and replace. Your smartphone is propably more expensive than your laptop. But, who knows, perhaps people are still listening at this marketing bullshit.

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    1. Re:Hardware is so cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt that. I am drooling over a new laptop right now. Current price list ~2800. That is about right with the parts I am picking. The margins on laptops are not much...

  9. Oh great by OzPeter · · Score: 1

    Instead of just software bugs I now I have worry about real bugs destroying my laptop.

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  10. Missed the boat by argee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think the fellow has met HIS goals, but they miss the boat.
    The main cause of laptops dying is spills on the keyboard and the underlying electronics.
    The broken ones I have seen involve damage to the LCD screens. Neither of these
    scenarios are addressed by THIS wood/composite design.

    It appears the gentleman mainly designed for drop resistance, rather than spill and
    LCD strikes. He has sought for a problem to the solution he proposes.

    Lastly, most laptops end up discarded not because of damage, but because their
    innards are obsolete. His insides are not upgradeable; the bulky case has limited
    interior space and is not modular. The materials used are impact resistant but they
    have to be made and formed by hand.

    1. Re:Missed the boat by Dwedit · · Score: 1

      Since the core 2 duo, processor speed hasn't gotten much faster. Just the GPUs from that era are really old, so GPUs are more likely to go obsolete than CPUs at this point.

      But yeah, take a Sandy Bridge and a Skylake and you couldn't tell them apart.

    2. Re:Missed the boat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny you mention that.

      I was just wondering how much of a boost I was getting from Haswell. So I compiled same project on my i7-2600k vs i7-4790K. Both boxes run on SSD and have 32G of RAM.

      So the SandyBridge finishes the compile in 1:52 consistently. where as Haswell consistently comes in at 1:20. So about 25% improvement right there (it probably helps that Haswell is also going to 4.4GHz by default where as SandyBridge tops out at 3.8GHz, I think. Both are modestly overclocked (stability is paramount after all)). Not too bad overall, though I guess I am not going to immediately replace that SandyBridge system just yet.

    3. Re:Missed the boat by toddestan · · Score: 1

      When you push them, the newest chips have a significant performance boost over the previous generations. The performance gains with Skylake and even Haswell were significant. When you're not pushing them, you're pretty hard-pressed to tell the difference between a Skylake and even a Core 2 Duo.

    4. Re:Missed the boat by rpstrong · · Score: 1

      Lastly, most laptops end up discarded not because of damage, but because their
      innards are obsolete. His insides are not upgradeable; the bulky case has limited
      interior space and is not modular. The materials used are impact resistant but they
      have to be made and formed by hand.

      The innards are from the Novena project, which appears to specifically allow hardware upgrades. And while the interior space may be limited, do you actually expect future components to be increasing in size?

  11. Not the most retarded thing I've ever seen by H0p313ss · · Score: 4, Funny

    But it might make the top ten.

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  12. The combustiblity of the wood, cork and glue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is just a free added feature.

  13. Being run over by a tank? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2

    I thought I saw a TV news segment back in the 1980's that the GRiD Compass laptop was designed to withstand being run over by a tank. With an $8,150 USD price tag and sold mostly to the government, the case should be quite sturdy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grid_Compass

    1. Re:Being run over by a tank? by p0p0 · · Score: 1

      Nowadays you could go for a Toshiba Toughbook for all your tank treading needs (maybe).
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    2. Re:Being run over by a tank? by woobieman29 · · Score: 1

      These are made by Panasonic, not Toshiba.

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  14. Thinkpads by fluffernutter · · Score: 2

    I have a Lenovo T430. My backpack laptop bag opened up in a mall awhile ago and the laptop fell onto the hard tile floor, bouncing several times. Not even a crack or chip. Still looks like new. Without a doubt the best laptop purchase I have made.

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    1. Re:Thinkpads by Lotana · · Score: 1

      Amen brother! I love my T420.

      Damn shame new ones changed the keyboard layout and the trackpad buttons :-(

    2. Re:Thinkpads by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      I miss the led light. Imagine if they added lit keyboards. I would pay extra for that. I actually like the keyboard layout. I find the corners above the arrow keys a very convenient place for PgUp PgDown. It gives you levels of control within close proximity. The Trackpoint is still my favorite pointing device.

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    3. Re:Thinkpads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a W530, and it's the best machine I've ever had by far, including MacBooks and Sonys. It's big, burly, and just goes and goes.

  15. Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not only is this a waste of time and money, but they left the ThinkPad insignias on it after assembly. And it's supposed to be some kind of "open source project"

    I'm not too surprised though, the following article is about how a guy restored his guitar by laser-etching a "sacred geometry" pattern onto it.

    And the site's tagline is "We are all makers!"

    In other words, come here with your money to feel less guilty and possibly even convince yourself you're not a total moron!

    1. Re:Hmm by complete+loony · · Score: 1

      It's the top end tier on a kickstarter, so of course it's a waste of time and money. The guts are built around an Arm & FPGA. This is a machines designed by a hardware hacker, for a hardware hacker. It's not for everyone.

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  16. Assholes by roman_mir · · Score: 0

    The first dozen comments I read on this story read like this place is mostly visited by huge assholes. Never mind that I get moderated into oblivion every time I talk about lack of productive output in the USA and most of the west due to the huge government and oppression of the individual, these comments are likely left by some people who waste their moderator points on me. You gotta be a special kind of asshole to berate a guy for building something with his hands that looks like a beautiful piece of art. He is actually manufacturing something nice, not unlike musical instruments that are made by hand in the world of mass manufacturing.

    I don't say this too often, especially in my political and economic comments, but fuck you, guys.

    1. Re:Assholes by peragrin · · Score: 1, Informative

      Slash of moderators take time. Browse at 1 moderation and watch those assholes disappear. Then go back and browse at -2 and find a much different place.

      Slams for moderation isn't prefect but it isn't bad.

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    2. Re:Assholes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " I talk about lack of productive output in the USA and most of the west due to the huge government and oppression of the individual"

      Yeah, it's not because we live in a post-industrial society and technology makes production by the individual obsolete, or that it's corporations that outsourced anything productive decades ago... No no, you see, it's the governments' fault!

      "You gotta be a special kind of asshole to berate a guy for building something with his hands that looks like a beautiful piece of art."

      This is your example of something productive?

      You're special all right, in an Olympic way. The reason your posts are modded down is not because of some oppressive conspiracy, but because your simple-minded shit is embarrassing to anything with a nervous system more complex than a worm's.

    3. Re:Assholes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... I get moderated into oblivion every time ...

      You getting a response from me, so you really are a precious snowflake.

      ... lack of productive output in the USA ...

      Didn't Slashdot just have an article that US productivity was improving as predicted? I think you're referring to the decline of manufacturing, which occurs for several reasons. The biggest reason is the need to keep corporation profits high and flowing into the pockets of their investors. Next is all the shitty decisions the board of directors make to satisfy the first reason: Like destroying domestic jobs and off-shoring manufacturing.

      ... huge government and oppression of the individual ...

      I'll sidestep the 'gubbermint is eevil' meme and go straight for the idiocy. Individuals don't own the means of manufacturing, so it's not their decision. Claiming their suffering causes the decline in manufacturing is a non-sequitur.

      Let's look at the guilty parties; corporations. Governments have a duty to oppress corporations for several reasons: Corporations are making the decisions so they must be accountable for the consequences; corporations have financial and thus political leverage that no individual can equal; the previous two factors combine to allow corporations to steal or destroy without benefiting the individuals around them; corporations are instruments created by the Government for the benefit of (wealthy) shareholders and thus need the protection of that very government.

    4. Re:Assholes by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Maybe they're into recycling old wooden TV / Raido / Turntable combo cabinets:

      The thrust of the design concept is informed by, and hopefully serves as homage to, the vintage HiFi designs

      In other words, yet another dust collector. On the plus side - nobody is going to steal it, and if you use it on the sidewalk downtown and leave an empty paper coffee cup beside you, you might collect some spare change.

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  17. Count me out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    with it's own unique color

    Stopped reading right there.

  18. MIL-STD-810 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Build quality is a characteristic many people value in laptop design, but one that often goes unrepresented on a spec sheet.

    The well-built laptops usually say "MIL-STD-810" on their spec sheet. Take a look at the Thinkpad spec sheets, for example.

    http://www.lenovo.com/psref/pdf/ThinkPad.pdf

  19. EMI compliance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Commercial products go through substantial testing to ensure they do not radiate electromagnetic interference. Commercial plastic cases have embedded shielding to keep their emissions within regulatory guidelines. Without shielding a laptop radiates on numerous frequencies ranging from a few MHz out to several GHz. How does this guy know he's not going to interfere with safety equipment, phones, WIFI, etc.? And, while I'm sanguine about allowing consumer electronics that have passed EMI testing on airplanes, I'd make this guy leave his laptop at the gate.

    But, as Mrs. Lincoln said, other than that little problem it was a really good play.

    1. Re:EMI compliance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      STOP OPPRESSING THIS PRODUCTIVE INDIVIDUAL!!! The market will sort out these problems!

      -romanmir

  20. Re-use old Thinkpad by davidshewitt · · Score: 1

    I really wish I could replace the CPU/Board/Graphics of my old Thinkpad T400 and keep the case/keyboard/display (especially the indicator lights). No such luck so far. :-(

  21. Cork?? by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's impact resistant sure, but it's a damn good thermal insulator. Heat is a killer.

    Also, plastic clamshells tend to hold up okay when dropped. Fans getting clogged (or dying from mechanical failure), power supply breaking off the board, or lcds cracking seem to be far more likely causes of laptop replacement.

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    1. Re:Cork?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cork sounds good. Heard of vents?

    2. Re:Cork?? by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      Vents/fans getting clogged or overheating kills far more laptops than falling. So why would I use an insulating material again?

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    3. Re:Cork?? by hankwang · · Score: 1

      "Also, plastic clamshells tend to hold up okay when dropped"

      All my laptops suffered from material fatigue in the case. Three times a crack on the right of the keyboard (from holding it with one hand), two with a severe crack on the back of the screen, near the hinges. I would welcome a small laptop (11-12 inch) that really lasts. Although among them were a 14-in Thinkpad T23 and a 14-in Dell Latitude, so it weren't just ultraportables.

    4. Re:Cork?? by Thumper_SVX · · Score: 1

      My girlfriend is still rocking an Alienware M11xR2. That damned thing is a tank and I've generally found Alienware laptops to be really well engineered and built. Last year I moved back from OSX to Windows by replacing my Macbook Pro with an Alienware 15. Point is; the M11xR2 is an 11 inch laptop that really lasts... I think it's around 6 years old now?

      I absolutely love it and it's traveled quite extensively with me. Dell's most recent commercial ultrabooks are also really well made. My work gives me a Latitude E7240 (12 inch) and it's also been incredibly reliable. Takes a beating and is moved around all the time since I work on the road. Yeah, the case has picked up scratches and scuffs mostly from being slipped in and out of a backpack, and occasionally having stuff put on top of it... but almost 2 years in and so far it's rock solid. The screen resolution is pretty crap though, but it's workable.

      If you want to go really serious there are also ruggedized laptops and tablets in the 11-12 inch size range. At work we recently demoed the Latitude 12 Rugged Tablet (also Dell) and while it's technically semi-rugged rather than truly rugged, that makes it highly portable and I doubt normal usage would cause it to even flinch.

    5. Re:Cork?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've always found it funny how cheap plastic laptops seem to last so much longer than metal ones. Metal ones always seem to warp, crack, dent or die when they fall. The first week, they do an excellent job at looking stylish and as expensive as they were, and then the pockmarks and dents set in.

  22. Replaceable innards by DrYak · · Score: 1

    That's the cost of having a modular/replaceable inside.

    Normal laptop are very thin, because they're custom built to try to cram everything as tightly as possible.

    This laptop enclosure is bigger so, no matter which donnor laptop you choose, you still have room to disassemble the laptop and screw everything isinde the wooden enclosure.

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    1. Re: Replaceable innards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So...how exactly is that less wasteful ?

  23. Or just build it in a Thinkpad enclosure. by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    Easy to maintain, hard to break, and plenty of parts for everyone - not just the nomenklatura that snagged these Heirlooms.

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  24. Context means nothing here. by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    Invoking context doesn't get you a pass. It's just some piece of nothingness that benefits only a few people.

    On the other hand, having user-upgradable machines available to the masses is a good thing.

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    1. Re:Context means nothing here. by oakgrove · · Score: 1

      It's just some piece of nothingness that benefits only a few people.

      Then don't buy it. Others apparently feel differently. I'll save you a click. It's sold out.

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  25. Greater disservice if done with integrated video. by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    If that recent machine has integrated video, you're doing a greater disservice for the same reason.

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  26. Reminds me of 1970s station wagons. by charyou-tree · · Score: 1

    When it was "cool" to put wood paneling on the outside of cars.

    Nice craftmanship, but they look ridiculous. To each his own.

    1. Re:Reminds me of 1970s station wagons. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You thought that was wood?

    2. Re:Reminds me of 1970s station wagons. by rpstrong · · Score: 1

      I acquired my dad's worn out a '69 Merc Colony Park which had a gorgeous expanse of unbroken, wood patterned 'contact paper' on the sides. By the time i got the car (in '76), that vinyl trim had become structural - in was the only part of the car that hadn't rusted. I could find a slightly puffy spot on the regular painted bodywork and shove the ignition key straight through.

      [This was when I lived in the Hudson Valley (in New York) where the regular use of salt in the winter was quite vicious to many cars].

      I still miss that car.

  27. Re:Greater disservice if done with integrated vide by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

    I disagree. For one thing the integrated video now sits under the CPU heatsink and fan, so no more risk of overheating or dying or whining fan.
    For another thing, the integrated video is very fast today, actually better than many graphics cards and is not a drain on the CPU at all considering it sits on some hugely fast internal bus and fairly accesses the memory controller (or L3 on Intel). Integrated graphics was deemed good enough for PS4 and Xbox One.

  28. Replacable components by phorm · · Score: 1

    It's late, so maybe I'm missing something from the article, but while it went on in length about the case, it didn't mention much about the innards other than the heatsink.

    Personally, I think a design like this would be nice for a "mobile desktop". That is, a decently powered desktop that can be plugged in and fully functional (but skip the battery). Most people I know don't often use their laptop on battery anyhow, and a mobile desktop has the advantage of being somewhat up-gradable. Going that route, it also might be cool to re-image the "suitcase PC" with something in a elegant wood design on the exterior but a functioning LCD and board (maybe a slide-out or removable input device) inside.

  29. if you absolutely positively need FOS hardware... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but if not... something like a thinkpad t420 is very modular for a laptop.... could do just as well in terms of functionality and upgradeability with compatibility with the gigantic backlog of x86 software....

  30. Is there a market for a commodity parts laptop? by Nerobro · · Score: 1

    I wonder if there would be a market for say.. an ITX based laptop case. ITX means you can use standard motherboards, and then the case is just a keyboard, monitor, and power. .... The most difficult part would be getting a decent cabling situation.

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  31. OMG! by sys64764 · · Score: 1

    Such bad taste in design. Just look at it! LOOK AT IT!

  32. Too late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's too late for the laptop enclosure. They've already escaped. Earth is doomed!

  33. Nice, but cost to performance...functionality/form by itwasgreektome · · Score: 1

    I was looking at a nice rugged waterproof digital camera on sale today. I thought to myself, "Boy, will this case make this camera last a while." And then I remembered that I'd had two previous ruggedized cameras, and I'd gotten a new one every 3 or so years. Not because the camera broke, but because it was electronics, and they paled in comparison to the new stuff. Buying a super duper protective and nice case for almost anything electronics related is kinda like encasing a sandwich in a permanently sealed glass case- may make it look nicer, but you're gonna get a new sandwich tomorrow. And that case is HUGE. The benefit of a laptop is size and portability. Otherwise, build a desktop computer in a nice case. You can always upgrade desktop parts. So it certainly looks nice, no doubt about it. Functionality over form usually takes the win when I'm deciding on something.

  34. Re:Greater disservice if done with integrated vide by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    For another thing, the integrated video is very fast today, actually better than many graphics cards and is not a drain on the CPU at all considering it sits on some hugely fast internal bus and fairly accesses the memory controller (or L3 on Intel).

    For both Intel and AMD, integrated video can only manage to beat low-end graphics cards within the same generation. Throw large, GPU-bound loads on it and then it will be quite clear why dedicated GPUs exist.

    Integrated graphics was deemed good enough for PS4 and Xbox One.

    Only if you forget that their CPU's were significantly faster than retail equivalents. While AMD sold them a fast APU, the Rest of Us (including myself) could only get a lesser A10 7850K.

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  35. Again, a few people. by sethstorm · · Score: 1

    Versus the multitudes that can buy the parts for Thinkpads and the like, that is something more in tune with nomenklatura.

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  36. not a problem for productivity stuff by Chirs · · Score: 1

    The integrated video is now capable of running multiple high-res monitors. It's entirely valid for office work including photography stuff.

    I wouldn't want to do gaming or full-on 3D CAD work, but for just about anything else it works just fine (and draws substantially less power than an external video chip, which is nice in a laptop).

  37. It's fucking ugly too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why, oh why, would anyone want to keep that thing?

    I expected some real creativity, no plastic involved - or at least no obvious plastic. Heirloom plastic keyboard, fucking-a.

  38. It's a Nice Maker Project... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you need the current-hot word for a 'hobby'. And I have no issue with it in that context.

    However I do wonder about the motivation beyond that. Is there really a problem with getting laptops of sufficient build quality? Are cases a problem in the industry? What are the barriers to good industrial design?

    I would suggest that this was more of a problem in the past, though never a big problem. The old IBM Notebooks had terrific build quality and Lenovo has done a good job in maintaining that tradition. The Apple MacBooks have great case designs, as do nearly all of the Ultrabook-type laptops. Dell and HP all make very respectable laptops with a nice, solid feel.

    Even if you look outside laptops, into the smartphone and tablet space. There are many, many quality offerings and they compete based upon good materials and solid implementation. It's not all about price and that creates the market space to allow a broad range of products.

    So as an individual project, I applaud Mottweiler's initiative and creativity. For the rest of us this isn't really going to be a big item on our 'to do' list.