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China Targets 2018 For Landing Probe On Far Side of Moon (reuters.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Despite all the time we've spent studying the moon, nobody has ever deployed a probe to its far side. Now, China has announced that it plans to land a probe there in 2018. The craft they plan to send is similar to the Chang'e-3 probe with its Jade Rabbit rover. They plan to study the geologic conditions on the far side of the moon. "China insists that its space program is for peaceful purposes. However, the U.S. Defense Department has highlighted China's increasing space capabilities, saying it was pursuing activities aimed at preventing its adversaries from using space-based assets during a crisis. In March, the Chinese government said it would open up its lunar exploration program to companies rather than simply relying on the state-owned sector as before, hoping to boost technological breakthroughs."

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  1. Re:Would make sense for a military base. by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

    Guess we'll just have to park some satellites up there. So much for radio silence in the region.

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  2. Eek by liqu1d · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Careful of the nazis there.

  3. Good thing about landing on far side of Moon by DesertNomad · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is that no one knows whether you were successful or not...

    1. Re:Good thing about landing on far side of Moon by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Informative

      Nope. The "outer" side of the moon NEVER faces Earth. That's the whole reason why it's being called "dark side of the moon". Not because it's perpetually night there (why would it be, the Earth is not what illuminates the moon) but that we have NEVER seen it before we sent something behind the moon.

      It's tidally locked to us. Anything on the backside of the moon we will never see from here.

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    2. Re:Good thing about landing on far side of Moon by Deadstick · · Score: 4, Informative

      Partially correct. We get to see 59% of the Moon's surface at various times, but not all at the same time.

    3. Re:Good thing about landing on far side of Moon by Etherwalk · · Score: 2

      I think neither of you has ever looked up at the moon in the sky, or you'd have noticed you always see the same side.

      Never seen the moon? Quick, do a google search.

    4. Re:Good thing about landing on far side of Moon by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      The Soviets used to launch probes in secret, and if they failed, never acknowledged their existence. They'd number the probes only after they were successful. It would be like Microsoft saying, "What Vista"?

  4. Re:Would make sense for a military base. by thesupraman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While I can only assume you are joking, isnt it insightful that the US DoD thinks it should raise issue with the Chinese having a space presence, when all they are doing is playing a long delays game of catch up to the US?

    Surely by the same interpretations, the US has already pursued 'activities aimed at preventing its adversaries from using space-based assets during a crisis'?

    But no, this is after the CHINESE, not the people who are the defenders of goodness and freedom that is the US of A.
    I can only imagine that the Chinese well know that destroying markets for their own produced goods would greatly advance their success..
    Oh, wait a moment, that makes no sense at all. Silly me.

  5. Re:Would make sense for a military base. by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Who cares about making sense? Bring on the next space race already...

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  6. Re:Worry about China? by waspleg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Both, and China is far older.

  7. Re:Worry about China? by AHuxley · · Score: 2

    Yes the US space commands publications make it clear the role space will play for the USA.
    "Vision for 2020" https://fas.org/spp/military/d...
    Kind of puts the comments about another science probe with interesting communications needs from China into perspective.

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  8. Obligatory probe of the dark side post by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3

    Probe of the dark side of Uranus, looking for Klingons.

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  9. Re:Best place to fake a landing these days... by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    And today nobody has rockets powerful enough to prove you didn't land on the far side of the moon.

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  10. Re: far side of the moon. by Noah+Haders · · Score: 2

    yesterday it occurred to me that maybe I should think about voting for bernie. I'm feelin the bern!

  11. Re:Would make sense for a military base. by turbidostato · · Score: 2

    "let's not forget that they [China] intentionally created a whole bunch of dangerous and unwanted space debris back in 2007 with an anti-satellite missile test. Nothing peaceful about blowing up satellites."

    As in "no other country*1 would do that"?

    *1 Except, of course, USA.

  12. Re:Would make sense for a military base. by shione · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's easy to forget this which happened 1 year after the 2007 test.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    You got this right though, "Nothing peaceful about blowing up satellites."

  13. Re:Would make sense for a military base. by mbone · · Score: 2

    "let's not forget that they [China] intentionally created a whole bunch of dangerous and unwanted space debris back in 2007 with an anti-satellite missile test. Nothing peaceful about blowing up satellites."

    As in "no other country*1 would do that"?

    *1 Except, of course, USA.

    Well, the Soviet Union did it too. We and the Soviets at least had the taste to pick satellites orbiting closer to the atmosphere, so the debris wouldn't be around for a century or so.

  14. Re:Best place to fake a landing these days... by mbone · · Score: 3, Informative

    Uh, we have the LRO, which can image any location on either side of the Moon with 10 cm resolution.

  15. Re:Worry about China? by msobkow · · Score: 2

    Sprout a brain. The US "warns" the world about China, Russia, Iran, and pretty much EVERY nation who dares to try to achieve anything unless they're a member of the "Five Eyes." The US is so fucking paranoid it is disgusting, and every single excuse that there is to post a "warning" about the achievements of other nations, Slashdot's "editors" do so.

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  16. Re:Would make sense for a military base. by RoverDaddy · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter was launched in 2009 and as far as I can tell it is still orbiting the moon. Its science mission may be finished though. In any case, keeping satellites in permanent orbit near the moon isn't simple, because of gravitational anomalies of the moon:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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