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How Procrastination Can Be Good For You (nytimes.com)

HughPickens.com writes: Over 80 percent of college students are plagued by procrastination, requiring epic all-nighters to finish papers and prepare for tests. Roughly 20 percent of adults report being chronic procrastinators. But Adam Grant writes in the NY Times that while we think of procrastination as a curse for productivity, procrastination is really a virtue for creativity. According to Grant, our first ideas are usually our most conventional -- but when you procrastinate, you're more likely to let your mind wander, giving you a better chance of stumbling onto the unusual and spotting unexpected patterns. "When we finish a project, we file it away. But when it's in limbo, it stays active in our minds." Jihae Shin designed some experiments. She asked people to come up with new business ideas. Some were randomly assigned to start right away. Others were given five minutes to first play Minesweeper or Solitaire. Everyone submitted their ideas, and independent raters evaluated how original they were. The procrastinators' ideas were 28 percent more creative. When people played games before being told about the task, there was no increase in creativity. It was only when they first learned about the task and then put it off that they considered more novel ideas. It turned out that procrastination encouraged divergent thinking.

Even some monumental achievements are helped by procrastination. Grant says that according to those who knew him, Steve Jobs procrastinated constantly. Bill Clinton has been described as a "chronic procrastinator" who waits until the last minute to revise his speeches, and Frank Lloyd Wright spent almost a year procrastinating on a commission, to the point that his patron drove out and insisted that he produce a drawing on the spot. It became Fallingwater, Wright's masterpiece. Aaron Sorkin, the screenwriter behind Steve Jobs and The West Wing, is known to put off writing until the last minute. When Katie Couric asked him about it, he replied, "You call it procrastination, I call it thinking."

94 comments

  1. oblig by stealth_finger · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would rtfa, but I'll do it later.

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    1. Re:oblig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I would rtfa, but I'll do it later.

      Almost the entirety of relevant content is included in the summary.

    2. Re:oblig by invictusvoyd · · Score: 2

      I am 28.653 % more creative then you

    3. Re:oblig by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      I've got a great reply for you.... stay tuned.

    4. Re:oblig by rasmusbr · · Score: 1

      I would rtfa, but I'll do it later.

      Yeah, early this week, sometime before Thursday, or at least on Thursday. That is unless there's a lot of unexpected work before then in which case there is always Friday.

      Definitely getting to it.

    5. Re:oblig by ls671 · · Score: 1

      Procrastination led me to be able to code for 24 hours or more in a row while staying productive. Handy when an unplanned emergency occurs. Some co-workers wonder how I can do it.

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    6. Re: oblig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Procrastination is an internal construct. You can't for procrastination on an individual. The study is forcing urgency onto the test subjects. This study is testing forced urgency not procrastination. The proper way to test the procrastination is to determine test subjects who procrastinate and compare to a control group. You would have to give the test subjects a dead line and detect if they procrastinate before they perform the task. Then compare the procrastinators to the control. The researchers are testing something other than procrastination.

    7. Re: oblig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I procrastinate way too much. There are so many things that I have been meaning to do, but never seem to get around to. I end up thinking of the best possible ways to do them instead. Maybe it's a touch of perfectionism as well.

      The thing is, I'm not lazy. When I do actually start on a project, I work hard and I'm very thorough (perfectionism coming into play again). And there are things I'm very routine and rigid about, like my daily exercise regimen. It's things like tidying the house that I always tend to put off, despite knowing that if I did only a little bit, perhaps 20 minutes of tidying a day, it wouldn't get to the point where I have to spend a whole day every few months sorting everything out.

    8. Re: oblig by Bengie · · Score: 1

      I have to agree. They're conflating two different things because they look similar. There is a difference between getting enough time to think and procrastinating. A better comparison would be to given a bunch of people 3 days to come up with some ideas, and have some group of people wait until the last day to come up with ideas.

      I do a lot of divergent thinking at work.
      Step1) Look over the issue until I feel I cannot think anymore about it
      Step2) Take a break
      Step3) Goto step1

      I take a lot of breaks, ranging in lengths depending on how hard the problem is that I am thinking about. When working on a new project, I'll probably spend about 5 hours a day taking breaks.

    9. Re:oblig by Bengie · · Score: 1

      More than likely, you just so happen to do well when working in longer bursts. Much research has gone into the subject of working for long stretches like you, and it all says most people do horribly and never get better at it. It's not something that is learned, it is something that you are.

      The funny thing about most research is that it attempts to treat everyone the same way when everyone have different ranges of strengths and weaknesses.

    10. Re:oblig by notonthegrid · · Score: 1

      Speaking of procrastination... I've been putting off looking for a really
      good nootropic stack that is cheap and effective and can be obtained easily
      at brick and mortor places like CVS/RiteAID/Target/Walmart. I would like to
      hear your stack suggestions and some usage notes.

    11. Re: oblig by KGIII · · Score: 1

      You know what might be worse? When you've got gobs of money, 100 unfinished projects, and will probably never finish any of them.

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      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    12. Re:oblig by ls671 · · Score: 1

      Very interesting. Thank you.

      Now we would need to find out what percentage of procrastinators are able to work in long stretches and vice-versa then, try to establish if there is any relation between the 2.

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    13. Re:oblig by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Procrastination led me to be able to code for 24 hours or more in a row while staying productive. Handy when an unplanned emergency occurs. Some co-workers wonder how I can do it.

      I consider it a major achievement staying awake for 24 hours in a row using drugs and talking utter bollocks. God knows how you manage to actually do any work.

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    14. Re:oblig by ls671 · · Score: 1

      Well, I am pretty old school but I have to admit I drink a bit of coffee. I can catch up on the sleep I need afterward by sleeping 18 to 24 hours in a row so in the end I sleep as much as you do if not more.

      See the reply above where the poster mention that there is actually studies about people able to work in long stretches. He says that you are actually born like that when you can do it.

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      Everything I write is lies, read between the lines.
  2. Why by johnsnails · · Score: 1

    Why put off till tomorrow what can be done the day after?

    1. Re:Why by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Slow down. Haste makes waste, you know.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    2. Re:Why by geoskd · · Score: 1

      Why put off till tomorrow what can be done the day after?

      Never do today, that which can be put off until it no longer has to be done.

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  3. Procrastination by johnsnails · · Score: 5, Funny

    Procrastination is my sin, it brings me naught but sorrow, I know that I should stop it, in fact I will tomorrow.

    1. Re:Procrastination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plagiarist. If you didn't write that, you should add proper attribution.

    2. Re:Procrastination by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      I'll add proper attribution when my round tuit arrives from Amazon.

    3. Re:Procrastination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thank you for sharing that.

    4. Re:Procrastination by TimSSG · · Score: 1

      Procrastination is my sin, it brings me naught but sorrow, I know that I should stop it, in fact I will tomorrow.

      "They say tomorrow is always a day away..." http://genius.com/1981516/Migu... Tim S.

  4. I don't think this applies to me... by jonwil · · Score: 5, Informative

    I don't think this applies when the thing you are supposed to be doing but aren't doing is not something creative (like writing code) but instead something simple (like when you are playing Fallout 4 instead of dealing with dirty dishes, dirty clothes and a dirty apartment :)

    1. Re:I don't think this applies to me... by alphatel · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I don't think this applies when the thing you are supposed to be doing but aren't doing is not something creative (like writing code) but instead something simple (like when you are playing Fallout 4 instead of dealing with dirty dishes, dirty clothes and a dirty apartment :)

      I bet the guy who invented those fancy disposable plates had a week's worth of dishes waiting for him.

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    2. Re:I don't think this applies to me... by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      I think some of the chronic Fallout 4 players have come up with very efficient solutions to housecleaning, such as: don't. Build up your immune system against common pathogens that grow on dirty dishes - reuse them instead, develop a circle of friends who don't care how you look or smell or what state your apartment is in. Others get their mothers / girlfriends to do the cleaning for them.

    3. Re:I don't think this applies to me... by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Develop a circle of friends that doesn't know how you look or smell. Fuck, why do you think we invented this internet thing?

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    4. Re:I don't think this applies to me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Procrastination is a really, really bad habit. Delaying action can be a very helpful tactic when practiced purposefully.

      I can't speak for other people, but when I'm procrastinating, I'm giving myself reasons why I don't want to or can't do something. Each time I think of the task, I'm just making things worse for myself. The more I procrastinate, the harder it is to start.

      And that's probably common to most or all chronic procrastinators. The perceived pain and suffering from a task is more than the perceived benefit of doing it. I tend to very quickly forget how it felt to complete the task and remember how much I didn't want to do it.

      But, delaying is completely different. It's a choice you're making to wait. You've probably actually looked at the task seriously and your brain is chugging away at it while you accomplish other things. By the time you actually start you've probably already figured out how to do it in a way that's effective. And you're probably not doing it at the last minute so you're probably not fighting with your amygdala for cognitive resources.

    5. Re:I don't think this applies to me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone didn't read the article. It specifically talks about people who "waited til the last minute".

      It might not be procrastination for you if you couldn't make it through the summary.

      That hints at the case of people who played games before being told of there task. There was no increase in creativity.

      If you are procrastinating even reading what your task should be, then you are not procrastinating in the way the article stated.

    6. Re:I don't think this applies to me... by ewibble · · Score: 1

      I don't think it applies at all really. At least the experiment doesn't really show much. 5 minutes of minesweep instead of starting straight away is not really your typical procrastination is it? It is more like allowing yourself to wind down. The typical procrastination when there is not time limit, is more like at least 2 years of I will get around to it. If there is a time limit, the work is usually done at the last moment, not allowing your sleep deprived mind, to have breaks.

      There is no reason to think this would actually scale to real life scenarios. If anything it probably shows that you should take breaks when you are working, more likely if you are not pressed for time.

      Also clearly if 20% of adults admit to being procrastinators, (probably in reality more) then there are going to be some achievements made by them.

      I fully admit I didn't read the article, its not procrastination, I don't ever intend to do that.

    7. Re:I don't think this applies to me... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I bet the guy who invented those fancy disposable plates had a week's worth of dishes waiting for him.

      I had a sink full of dirty dishes when I came up with the idea of throwing them all out except for one plate, one fork, one cup. That way, the next time I ate I had to wash them, because there was nothing else to use. I never had a sink full of dirty dishes again. There would have been a problem if I had company over, but that never happened anyway.

    8. Re:I don't think this applies to me... by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      I did not really bother with the article at all because I know full well, my greatest burst of creativity occurs when first given the problem, there in after it wains as I focus on implementation. After years in private that focus on implementation kills creativity because good enough dominates so that new problems can be tackled. That also occurred in school where projects generating no new knowledge were simply fit in to take up minimal time, achieving the required minimum grade and thus sparing as much time as possible for new thought and knowledge. I wish that schools would have offered a choice, do the stupid projects (the boredom of pointlessly regurgitation knowledge in a pretty format, often with greater marks scored for prettiness rather than content) or do the easy exams (easy for some hard for others). So the procrastination does not occur with regard to creativity but the boredom of implementation.

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    9. Re:I don't think this applies to me... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      There would have been a problem if I had company over, but that never happened anyway.

      As this is slashdot, that is redudant information, like saying "but I never had sex with a whole professional cheerleading team at once".

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  5. I procrastinate by Pikoro · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'll be putting off my death as long as possible. That makes it healthy.

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    "Freedom in the USA is not the ability to do what you want. It is the ability to stop others from doing what THEY want"
    1. Re:I procrastinate by pjt33 · · Score: 1

      Then there's creative procrastination. That's when, to put off making that phone call you're dreading, you do the dishes instead.

  6. Come back tomorrow. by Yaztromo · · Score: 1

    I have a rather mundane, obvious reply to this article. But I can't be bothered to type it all out right now.

    Please come back tomorrow, when I write an instant "+5 Insightful" comment in its place.

    Yaz

  7. Bill Clinton has been described as a by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "chronic procrastinator"

    Is that what you kids call it these days?

    1. Re:Bill Clinton has been described as a by greenfruitsalad · · Score: 1

      if the best he could come up with after his procrastination was: "i did not have sexual relations with that woman" I think i'll stop procrastinating and get on with stuff.

  8. Procrastination serves me well at work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can't tell you how many times I've been asked to do some task, and after putting it off as long as possible find out it no longer was necessary or that the instructions had changed so much that I would have had to redo it, had I originally dropped everything and performed the requested task. There is kind of a fine line, but I've reached the conclusion that, used properly, procrastination is a useful tool to minimize the amount of inefficiency others can inflict upon you.

    1. Re:Procrastination serves me well at work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In our PhD lab, our supervisor would ask us to do something. If we did it immediately, the results weren't as expected and we'd move onto trying something else. But if we were delayed in doing that experiment, then he'd come in the next day and say "don't bother doing that, try this instead".

      There's also the rapidly evolving software API's. Sometimes, some have changed so rapidly that it's hardly worth learning release X, when release Y is going to come out six months later.

    2. Re:Procrastination serves me well at work. by Rei · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've had this experience with my house design a lot.

      I've been held up by a construction boom leaving the country's architects overworked - the year before last I went through three of them because they weren't getting anything done. Last year I decided not to switch again (and thus have to begin from the beginning each time) and it took my architect 11 months to even get to the stage where we need to bring the engineer in. And before that there were lots of delays in finding and buying the property to begin with. But during all that time my planning for the house has really evolved, for the better. It's still an underground steampunk cave house, but it'll be cheaper to build, more comfortable to live in, and with a better look. Even having to switch architects helped because each one helped refine my thought process with their feedback.

      Example: when I started my thought process involved actually boring the house out of the ground, like a tunnel, which would have been ridiculously expensive. I moved from that to the concept of building a timber form in a naturally low place, shotcreting it, the burying that. But building big timber domes here is expensive, and shotcrete unusually expensive here too. From there I moved to the current concept of simply making a big pile of compacted ground in a low point in the shape of the house and concreting over it (with forms only needed for where the slope is too steep), and burying that. Way simpler and cheaper.

      I moved from having the house physically spread out to make it like a cave, to using convoluted bends to make it actually compact (even with common walls in places) but feel like it's spread out - thus greatly reducing the amount of material. I moved from a plastic ground cloth for waterproofing to multilayered rubberized-bitumen sheeting on compacted sand over the house, as my extra time gave me time to research longevity of different membranes and I found out that that's what's used to waterproof nuclear fuel repositories over great lengths of time. I moved from the idea of a clay-based plaster on the concrete to try to give it a cave-like feel to the concept of simply pressure blasting away the inner cement and exposing the aggregate. I've refined the details on the type of concrete to use greatly, and may now even be doing a research project out of it (FRP-rebar, loose plastic and basalt fiber, basalt dust pozzolan, etc). I came to the realization that due to the lack of limitations on how thick the insulation can be I could use pumice or scoria rather than a foam-based product. Also came to the realization (after taking the time to do heat flow simulations) that while in many "umbrella earth home" designs it's uninsulated under the house, my nearness to the bedrock and potential groundwater means that I should. I've come up with dozens of new steampunk and cave stylistic features to incorporate. And on and on. None of this would have happened had there not been great delays in the process.

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    3. Re:Procrastination serves me well at work. by jafiwam · · Score: 1

      I can't tell you how many times I've been asked to do some task, and after putting it off as long as possible find out it no longer was necessary or that the instructions had changed so much that I would have had to redo it, had I originally dropped everything and performed the requested task. There is kind of a fine line, but I've reached the conclusion that, used properly, procrastination is a useful tool to minimize the amount of inefficiency others can inflict upon you.

      I came here to post something exactly like this.

      In a work environment, delaying the task can make the task go away.

      On the actual subject though, procrastination is not the benefit. It's something that happens despite the benefit. The real bonus is letting the subconscious mind work on the problem a while in order to get out of the "must be solved this way" loop.

      Delaying the problem DOES NOT work for large classes of things that need to get done. Sometimes delaying can cause a spring of motivation to happen (like doing taxes during some boring futball game. Figuring out how to re mount a broken bird feeder might be insight from procrastination. Procrastinating on cleaning the toilet is just going to keep you with a dirty toilet and no girlfriend.

    4. Re:Procrastination serves me well at work. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Exactly.

      The best way to deal with a boss that cannot make up his mind is to put off doing whatever he wants you to do until the last moment when whatever you create cannot be changed anymore. Because if you dare delivering it earlier, you will do it twice.

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    5. Re:Procrastination serves me well at work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah but unfortunately you become notorious around the office as a habitual procrastinator. And that's no good for your perf review. Word spreads around that this guy procrastinates but just happens to get lucky that some of his tasks were later deemed unnecessary.

    6. Re:Procrastination serves me well at work. by ewibble · · Score: 1

      For me from the opposite side, yes people delaying task can make it go away I get frustrated and just do it myself. It is often less effort to do a task yourself than wait for some lazy person, to get off their buts and do it. Of course this comes with the added reward of no good deed goes unpunished, and people expect you to do it again next time.

      There is some wisdom in Wally's philosophy http://dilbert.com/strip/2015-...

    7. Re:Procrastination serves me well at work. by Livius · · Score: 1

      after putting it off as long as possible find out it no longer was necessary

      And back when humans were evolving on the savannas, in a highly unpredictable environment, this likely happened a lot. So both action with foresight and inaction were both strategies that were randomly good or bad. Some personalities tended towards procrastination, and some didn't, because neither was ideal.

      The "used properly" part, of course, is tricky.

    8. Re:Procrastination serves me well at work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For me from the opposite side, yes people delaying task can make it go away I get frustrated and just do it myself. It is often less effort to do a task yourself than wait for some lazy person, to get off their buts and do it. Of course this comes with the added reward of no good deed goes unpunished, and people expect you to do it again next time.

      The workplace needs its creative knowledge workers, and it needs its worker drones. Good to know you have accepted your place in this mix.

    9. Re:Procrastination serves me well at work. by ranton · · Score: 1

      Yeah but unfortunately you become notorious around the office as a habitual procrastinator. And that's no good for your perf review. Word spreads around that this guy procrastinates but just happens to get lucky that some of his tasks were later deemed unnecessary.

      This strategy only works if you really are one of the top performers. It all depends on how much your employer values your time. If he just views you as someone to hand mindless tasks to, then he will not look kindly on procrastinating. If your employer values your highly, he will like that you are self-managing your time properly and getting the most important tasks done instead of being distracted.

      My reputation around work is you come to me with your most important problems, because they will get fixed. But if you come to me with mundane tasks, they are unlikely to ever get done (although I'll probably help you find someone else to do it). I like this reputation, and based on my last decade of performance reviews, pay raises, and promotions, my employers like it too.

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      -- All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke
    10. Re:Procrastination serves me well at work. by Bongo · · Score: 1

      Heh, cool.

      When I was studying architecture, they told us the story of the industrialist CEO who called in a tech to replace the doorknob to his office.
      A week later the tech comes back and says, "you know, I've been thinking about the doorknob, and the problem isn't really the doorknob, it is the way the door works."
      So the CEO agrees and asks the tech to work on the door.
      A week later the tech comes back and says, "you know, I've been thinking about the door, and the problem isn't really the door, it is the layout of the corridor leading up to the door."
      So this goes of for a few months and by the end the tech is redesigning the whole factory.

      Design stops when you run out of time*

      * Plus a few extra hours, I'd argue.

    11. Re:Procrastination serves me well at work. by Bongo · · Score: 1

      True, but here's how it does works: you take that thing that requires creativity and can be made to wait, and whilst your subconscious works on it, you clean the toilet.

      Actually I once had a brief to produce a post-modern take on a betting shop, as an art installation—and whilst cleaning the toilet it occurred to me that the counter of the betting shop should have the area where you pass your money through look like a toilet bowl.

      Throwing your money down the drain; all money is crap; etc.

      Unfortunately I procrastinated on it so long that at the end of it all I had to show was a lot of sketches of toilets.

      Which is ironic. But then that's post-modern ironic for you. A sort of irony on irony, or in my case, ceramicky on ceramicky.

    12. Re: Procrastination serves me well at work. by BeaverCleaver · · Score: 1

      Do you have a link to your project?

    13. Re:Procrastination serves me well at work. by jbr439 · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Sad as it may be, I have also found that procrastinating solves a surprising number of issues.

  9. Set yourself up to take notes/dictate (now) by TheRealHocusLocus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When you're facing any project that will require creative thought and a bit of narrative at the end such as an essay or presentation, do a bit of deep research early in the cycle so that main points and a crude outline of the objective is apparent, then go about your days keeping the project in mind. Bits and pieces will occur to you at various times and that's when you must take some sort of action: reach into the pocket for notebook and pen or talk into your widget. Every other day gather and consolidate these thoughts to paper or screen. Try to think of the project as 'evolving' rather than a sense of anxiety or dread. Above all, don't try to do it entirely in your mind, there must be some physical recording medium with you at all times. At some point there might be a jotted or spoken note that you'll discover leads to some wry twist of insight, or a novel approach to present the ideas. Like dream images these insights can be fragile, never trust them to memory. Hopefully as the procrastination phase nears its end you'll find a much better outline to fill with detail and polish, and a fine end product.

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  10. Quantitative analysis is suspect here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They say "28% more creative", but that number sounds like 100% bullshit, depending on how they drew that conclusion.

    1. Re:Quantitative analysis is suspect here by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 1

      They say "28% more creative", but that number sounds like 100% bullshit, depending on how they drew that conclusion.

      This comment is exactly 28% more insightful than any others I've read on this thread so far.

  11. John Cleese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's an excellent YouTube video of a talk by John Cleese about creativity. One of the key elements of creating an opportunity for creativity to arise is continuing to ponder and not just taking the first solution that comes to mind.

  12. Re:Typical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To be honest, I can see some of that in myself. I became so "smart" with computers because instead of being active, I just lazily sat at front of the PC, tinkering with random shit. When I think of it, I do not have many finished computer projects either.

  13. Sounds like Wally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Mental Stuff is Almost Done

    On the other hand, I think this expression is also true: something like "a task expands to fill the time available." -- [Google]...Ah it's Parkinson's Law.
    It's amazing how often something I think is a 'rough first draft' never needs to be revised again.

  14. It's called... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Adderall.

    Procrastination be damned, when I was in college, party until 3 hrs before your projects due, pop an addy, you'll be done with time to spare for a chill out joint!

  15. Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's a very nice pile of bullcrap, sir!

  16. Yet another... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ....worthless psychology study attempting to pretend it actually earned its money. It's complete garbage like this that makes people not trust what could otherwise be a very serious field.

  17. George Martin's next book... by Bruinwar · · Score: 2

    George Martin's next book should be a winner then!

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    1. Re:George Martin's next book... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love deadlines. They make such a wonderful whooshing noise as they go by.

      - Douglas Adams

  18. I would have had first post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    But, well, you know...

  19. Saturate first by edx220 · · Score: 1
  20. Divergent thinking is ungodly! by Theovon · · Score: 1

    Because divergent thinking might make people ponder something different than a literal interpretation of the Bible. This is why procrastination is OF THE DEVIL.

  21. procrastination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    always pays off immediately

  22. duke nukem forever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    became a prime example for creativity due to this.

    Really?

  23. These people don't know what procrastination is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A true procrastinator would have never submitted a business idea.

  24. To Make a Brick by BoRegardless · · Score: 1

    You have to plan how to mix, match, and mold the cruddy stuff & then fire it

    Fire first doesn't work.

  25. Frist Post! by OzPeter · · Score: 1

    Hot Grits! By procrastinating I can get a Frist Post whenever I want!

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  26. 28% more creative? by tommeke100 · · Score: 1

    I like how they can quantify creativity so easily.

    1. Re:28% more creative? by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      I was going to say the same thing. Ridiculous. These "studies" get more and more ridiculous every year.

    2. Re:28% more creative? by ranton · · Score: 1

      I was going to say the same thing. Ridiculous. These "studies" get more and more ridiculous every year.

      One byproduct of the anti-intellectual problem in our society is that people begin to confuse very hard tasks with impossible tasks. It just makes it easier if you don't want to think hard and instead can just claim something cannot be done.

      Your comments remind me of people who think you cannot quantify the value of brand loyalty or customer satisfaction. Luckily the data analytics industry can still move forward while uncreative people dismiss their efforts.

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    3. Re:28% more creative? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your comments remind me of people who think you cannot quantify the value of brand loyalty or customer satisfaction. Luckily the data analytics industry can still move forward while uncreative people dismiss their efforts.

      It's not that it can't be done, it's that it can't be done subjectively. I actually find it hard to believe you're equating creativity with brand loyalty, are you for real?

      Also, I'm an academic, so much for your presumptive "anti-intellectual" bullshit.

    4. Re:28% more creative? by ranton · · Score: 1

      It's not that it can't be done, it's that it can't be done subjectively. I actually find it hard to believe you're equating creativity with brand loyalty, are you for real?

      Also, I'm an academic, so much for your presumptive "anti-intellectual" bullshit.

      I assume you meant objectively, but considering the rest of your comments I'm leaning towards not giving you the benefit of the doubt.

      Do you think educators are immune to all cognitive biases or irrational behavior? Your comment is kind of like when a woman thinks she can't have unconscious biases against women because of her gender. I think it is quite possible for academics to show anti-intellectual behavior, especially when faced with arguments that challenge their beliefs.

      Your knee jerk reaction that the study is ridiculous because it attempted to measure something subjective is far more telling of your biases than your profession. Including your affinity for the authority bias. Also thinking that you cannot equate aspects of one concept with another because they are not 100% equal is also quite informative. You may still be very good at research in your field of study, or educating if that is your focus, but your propensity towards thinking yourself an absolute authority on what is bullshit and ridiculous make me question your rational thinking. Or perhaps you are just a hot head who is easily rattled and offended, and that negative impacts your thinking.

      I just hope if and when you act as an advisor to students you are a bit more open minded. There are plenty of ways to measure subjective things.

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    5. Re:28% more creative? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Also, I'm an academic, so much for your presumptive "anti-intellectual" bullshit.

      An academic can quite easily have stupid opinions outside their own field of expertise. This is known as Nobel disease after the impressive number of Nobel prize winning scientists who are racists, global warming deniers or believers in homeopathy.

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  27. Another benefit... by RobinH · · Score: 1

    In the workplace, procrastination can be useful on a project because the requirements can, and often do, change. If the amount of actual work is a small fraction of the time allotted, then putting it off to the end of the timeframe can prevent having to re-do your work when things change. I've met a co-worker who used this reasoning explicitly, and she was very good at getting lots of work done (and on time too).

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  28. Re: Typical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is why smart is overrated when hiring productive programming teams. Most jobs don't need creative, they just need to be done.

    That is why the 'As' hire 'As' and 'Bs' hire 'Cs' theory is crap. With 'As' as managers you will have no schedule (e.g. Google).

    The secret is to convince the 'As' to work for the 'Bs' (or as I like to say convince the assholes to put up with the bullshit).

  29. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

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  30. First post! by penguinoid · · Score: 1

    First post! (9th draft)

    Note to self: better turn this in now, it's as good as it's going to get. It's way past the deadline, but better late then never.

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  31. measuring creativity by Atmchicago · · Score: 1

    procrastinators' ideas were 28 percent more creative

    How do you measure creativity? According to them, how creative were Da Vinci? Bach? The idea that you can measure creativity is silly. Furthermore, I think we can agree that thinking deeply about a problem is more likely to lead to a good solution than not, but procrastinating is not the same thing as actively engaging a subject. This reeks of psycho babble clickbait -- after all, who doesn't want to read that procrastinating is good?

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    1. Re:measuring creativity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My problem solving skills often work best when I take my mind off the problem, then simpler and more elegant ideas for solving it suddenly just start to pop up in my brain after a while. It also happens when I wake up in the morning without the aid of an alarm clock and don't get out of bed immediately.

      It seems to me that in both cases the point is that there is no pressure, my brain is not in a "this needs to get done now" mode and (unconsciously in the background) feels free to explore possibilities that under pressure are discarded because my brain feels there is no time to explore them.

      Under pressure my brain prefers fast solutions, without pressure it prefers good solutions. The nice thing of course is that the good solutions usually are simpler and faster to implement than the 'fast solutions'. The 'fast solutions' are only fast in the sense that I can start working on them immediately, which can be highly counterproductive if they aren't very good ideas.

      I think that what is often called procrastination is a way of thinking deeply about a problem, not by putting a lot of conscious effort in it but by taking the pressure off your brain so it is free to do what it's good at.

  32. Re: Typical by ranton · · Score: 1

    This is why smart is overrated when hiring productive programming teams. Most jobs don't need creative, they just need to be done.

    That is why the 'As' hire 'As' and 'Bs' hire 'Cs' theory is crap. With 'As' as managers you will have no schedule (e.g. Google).

    The secret is to convince the 'As' to work for the 'Bs' (or as I like to say convince the assholes to put up with the bullshit).

    I used to think you needed a large number of worker bees to complement the highly skilled creative workers. But after almost two decades in the industry, I find that if you actually take the effort to hire As, they do their work well enough that you don't have many mundane tasks best done by C workers.

    The trick is actually hiring A workers, not Bs who think they are As. This may be particularly common in IT since so few people understand the IT industry it can be hard to hire well if you don't have a large IT department.

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  33. Leonard Bernstein said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'To achieve great things, two things are needed: a plan and not quite enough time. ... “
    Procrastination helps/

  34. Spontaneous lack of engineering... by airpor41 · · Score: 1

    FallingWater -- that's the one that is falling apart because he didn't bother to do the engineering, right?

  35. Re:Why (oblig Dilbert strip) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    too soon?
    "Wally period"
    http://dilbert.com/strip/2002-02-27

  36. Decision making by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A old work mate of mine did his thesis on decision making, anyway after procrastinating for some time he simply concluded that the best decisions are made at the last possible moment - when we have all the relevant facts available. So what may appear to be procrastination may actually be the evaluation of all information, which of course would include different ideas or approaches we have conceived of ourselves.

  37. Hard work pays off in the long run by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    but procrastination pays off immediately!!!

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  38. It's just giving your hidden brain some space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Call it intuition, flow, procrastinated inspiration, the nine muses or whatever, that's actually your unconscious doing your work and slipping you the answers. Except, it *is* his work too, he is part of you. Heck, the unconscious is probably *most* of you, and that's something our conscience really doesn't likes and tries to hide desperately.

    Freud focused on the grim side of our hidden brain—can't blame him, that's where the money was at—but now we know that most of what we do—and what we decide!?—is done without thinking—consciously, that is. Already in 79 Betty Edwards, inspired by the early studies of hemisphere specialization, realized that she needed not teach her students to draw, but simply to do it On the Right Side of the Brain. She ingrains in her students the ability to shut down their concious thinking so the specialized motor and visual centres of their brain can do the heavy (pencil) lifting. For this, she uses some visual aids, and a bunch of tricks to distract or tire conciousness so it will step out of the way. After some 40 hours of practice, most of her students can switch to the visual/perceptual mode at will.

    Strangely, we haven't learned many new tricks to talk—or just listen—to our hidden selves since then. In her excellent book A Mind for Numbers—which is the basis for the most popular Coursera class, Learning How to Learn—Barbara Oakley includes many tips to access diffuse/unconscious thinking to solve hard problems or get creative inspiration, all involving distracting or shutting down consciousness—going for a jog or taking a nap, for example. [1]

    But we all knew this already. When you forget where did you left the keys, or you have that word in the tip of the tongue, the best you can do is stop thinking about it. What we might not realize, is that this applies to about anything else: whether you're driving, playing music, dancing, painting, writing, cooking, doing sports, if you want to be really good at it, you gotta practice it until you internalize it, until you can do it without "thinking".

    Which makes perfect sense. Versatile as it is, our conciousness is terribly slow. 40 bps—or even less—bandwith, with a 500-800ms latency. Try playing some twitch games with that over the net! Rather than a processor, our conciousness might be more like a chipset, a modest switchboard, just trying to pass stuff the right way. So, if you need to react fast, or calculate something complex, don't think, don't even think, think and you'll screw up!

    But procrastinating binges as a source of creativity, that's just a lame denial of your Facebook addiction. ;)

    [1]. Some studies do contradict the distraction trick, however: "creative thinking does not appear to critically depend on any single mental process or brain region, and it is not especially associated with right brains, defocused attention, low arousal, or alpha synchronization, as sometimes hypothesized."

    And the unconscious is not all roses either, but also a source of invisible mischief and discrimination, thanks to its obsolete heuristics, as explained by Shankar Vedantam in his terrifying The Hidden Brain.

  39. Re: Typical by Bengie · · Score: 1

    Most jobs don't need creative, they just need to be done.

    "Done" is subjective. To me, nothing is done until you forgot the last time someone reported an issue or asked why it failed. After I deploy something and it affects 20,000+ customers( 2mil+ users), anything that I missed will consume most of my time, leaving me little time to fix the issue or work on anything else. I think of this as "Amdahl's law" applied to supporting software. It limits the number of projects I can work on based on the amount of imperfections in the code. Other teams you say? Support you own code. When you have to support your code, you learn not to crap where you eat.

  40. Doesn't sound beneficial to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Creative things are different, and different things are bad. And if you are the source of those different things, that makes you bad, and hence hated by your colleagues, bosses, underlings (if you have those), and basically everyone you meet. Unless you're in a very rare kind of position, it's better to be as average as possible and creativity doesn't fit in that picture.

  41. First Post! by jewens · · Score: 1

    That means by waiting nearly 2 days this post is 28% more creative. Thanks science!

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