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European Human Rights Court Rules Mass Surveillance Illegal (theregister.co.uk)
Kekke sends this report from El Reg:
The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) has ruled that mass surveillance is illegal, in a little-noticed case in Hungary. In a judgment last week, the court ruled that the Hungarian government had violated article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights (the right to privacy) due to its failure to include "sufficiently precise, effective and comprehensive" measures that would limit surveillance to only people it suspected of crimes. Under a section of the 2011 National Security Act, a minister of the government is able to approve a police request to search people's houses, mail, phones and laptops if they are seeking to protect national security. ... The court said the Hungarian government should be required to interpret the law in a narrow fashion and "verify whether sufficient reasons for intercepting a specific individual's communications exist in each case." Or in other words, every individual case must be looked at carefully and a decision made on each. Which is clearly impossible if the law is taken to carry out mass surveillance, i.e., hoovering up information over the internet and then searching in it."
"hoovering up information over the internet and then searching in it" You mean there are other options?
Look inside everyone's mail. If there's anything suspicious, there's your probable cause. If there's nothing suspicious, no harm done -- but best to keep the info in case it contained a coded message. This message brought to you by the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave.
Don't waste your vote! Vote for whoever you want, unless you live in a swing state it won't matter anyways
I assume you're trolling. But on the offchance that you're actually swallowing this BS, there's only one response: you big wussy pussy.
Much of the EU has its own deep dark history with German Nazi occupied Europe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..., Soviet occupation, decades of NSA, CIA and GCHQ operations.
Mass surveillance was used on a lot of the different nations and individuals for different party, political or trade reasons.
Legal teams can draw on the past generational experiences under fascist, communist and now EU/US/NATO rule and tell the press about what they found.
Recall the vaults filled with audio tape opened in the 1990's. The vast amounts of files the East Germans collected and then tried to destroy. The German legal views on opening East German files re East or West German collected content. Now the NSA whistleblowers.
Looks like the EU just found out about the wisdom of the US 4th amendment to be secure in their persons, houses, papers vs big government or a politico-economic union tyranny.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Because the left wing there has defined muslims as an 'oppressed' class in order to foster more divisiveness in those countries. It's as idiotic as indians who let cows roam freely through their cities.
Europe is a self-inflicted infested tree with a big X on it.
Watching the fireworks in the distance is entertaining.
...will they ever root out terrorists before terrorists strike? Such a law will lead to another Charlie Hibdo attack!!
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
That's cute.
Sincerely,
The NSA.
Cows say moooooure an idiot.
Except of course for all those cameras surveilling every public inch of major cities, because that's "public space" and you still have the option to self-impose house arrest to avoid it.
Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
You're doing the same thing.
The ECHR ruled over a decade ago that even prisoners have a right to vote. The UK replied 'we'll get right on it' and promptly did nothing at all. We've been in violation of their ruling for all that time, and there's nothing they can do. Our prime minister even openly brags that we are ignoring the ruling*. This will be no different. The ECHR doesn't actually have an effective enforcement mechanism, should a member state choose to ignore them.
*http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20053244
> Europe has a big problem with its citizens joining terror groups like ISIS.
You must be one of those, I suppose: spreading FUD around *is* one of their tactics and further their goals.
Remember: the extremists at both ends make the best allies.
Sweden has turned into the land of the Shrew, and the home of .. no, not Dave but Muhammed.
Clearly, the EU needs to step up to the plate and start passing more laws that are vaguely worded and overly generic, but with the verbal promise they won't be abused. You know, like what the US has been doing, since, well, I don't know when they started, but it was a long time ago.
Once they get this program ramped up, pretty much everybody will have violated some law, at least technically, so therefore, mass surveillance becomes completely legal.
Everybody wins. Well, except for the commoners. Fortunately, they don't matter.
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Don't be silly, things like that don't happen in the USA. Because guns.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Real men are hard to come by in this day and age. Feminism tries to make sure it stays that way. The problem is that most women find wussy men unattractive.
What utter bullshit.
Most women actually find wussy men attractive.
The evidence? The fucking popularity of it.
As you stated, real men are hard to come by in this day and age. That's because it's a dying breed.
The US government is the biggest terrorist organization in the world and if you support them then you are guilty of colluding with terrorists and deserve to the be executed.
Real men are hard to come by in this day and age. Feminism tries to make sure it stays that way. The problem is that most women find wussy men unattractive.
What utter bullshit.
Most women actually find wussy men attractive.
The evidence? The fucking popularity of it.
As you stated, real men are hard to come by in this day and age. That's because it's a dying breed.
Yeah, right. That's why you see supermodels going after metrosexual sitzpinklers instead of rock starts and football players.
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FTFY.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Well, we prefer to have balls to hoping that useless laws could cover our asses.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
They are going to need a ruling on mass rape long before the mass surveillance is going to matter.
Europe, or any other place threatened by terrorism, could accomplish a lot more by infiltrating and subverting known terrorist channels of communication than by shotgun surveillance of large random populations. Set up fake Daesh honeypot websites and simulated chatter, and our drones can be even more effective.
You think that supermodels are somehow capable of making intelligent and rational decisions?
What do doctors, lawyers, and other INTELLIGENT women find attractive?
Compared to the land of the free and the home of the brave, Whose inhabitants shit their trousers at the thought of even letting a Muslim in to live in a state 2000 miles away.
I think you are confusing politicians with the general populous. Most of us don't give a damn about peaceful muslims.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?