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Ashley Madison Blackmail Letter Revealed (grahamcluley.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Security researcher Graham Cluley says he has been forwarded a blackmail letter, sent to a member of the controversial Ashley Madison adultery website. In the letter the blackmailer says that unless $2,000 worth of bitcoin is paid within 10 days, the recipient's wife, friends and colleagues will be informed of his misdemeanors. In a threatening twist, the letter goes on to give personal details of another victim who refused to pay the blackmailers, and how his personal life and work were targeted as a result. Cluley's advice to recipients is not to pay the blackmailers, but to tell the U.S. Postal Inspectors Service.

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  1. this is blackmail? by zephvark · · Score: 4, Funny

    >unless $2000 worth of bitcoin is not paid

    ...I'm pretty sure he can afford to go ahead and not pay it, then. They apparently offered to screw him over only if he paid.

    1. Re:this is blackmail? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      >unless $2000 worth of bitcoin is not paid

      ...I'm pretty sure he can afford to go ahead and not pay it, then. They apparently offered to screw him over only if he paid.

      You should recognize this as the Piranha Brothers' "Other Operation," in which they select a victim and threaten to not beat him up if he doesn't pay them.

    2. Re:this is blackmail? by sconeu · · Score: 2

      Clearly, the blackmailers need to move to the "Other Other Operation"...

      DINSDALE!!!!

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  2. You want to cheat on your wife? by DewDude · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is what you get.

    This is one of the few cases where I don't support the activities of any party involved; the hackers for what they did, the website for providing/promoting such blatant infidelity, nor the people who use the site.

    However, in this case, the people I support the least are the people who took their marriage vows so lightly they're using a website to cheat. It's absolutely disgusting. You get what you deserve. What to avoid the collateral damage; don't cheat. But, since you're past that point; you might as well fess up to it; and make sure you tell your family you're only coming clean about it due to a threat of blackmail. It'll make them see your character for what it really is.

    Quite frankly, screw everyone all around in this ordeal. It's disgusting we're still talking about this.

    1. Re: You want to cheat on your wife? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      No one asked you to support it. This isn't about supporting or being against adulterous behaviors, but rather how willing we are as a society to protect privacy. Unless a crime was committed they have as much right as you to not be threatened.

    2. Re:You want to cheat on your wife? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Most of the membership was closet gay people who didn't want to be outed. Especially since being gay is punishable by death in some countries and cultures.

      So maybe you can get off your high horse and actually try to understand the different sides of the issue for once.

    3. Re:You want to cheat on your wife? by onepoint · · Score: 2

      WOW a shashdotter using a moral line.
      Really???
      No one is asking for you or anyone to support.
      Everyone and anyone has the rights to live without being subjected to harm from 3rd parties.

      Wife cheats on her husband or husband cheats on the wife, does not really matter.
      Might be good reason for it, maybe, no reason for it, but, no need to subject both parties to harm.

      and a simple observation ...

      don't waste time paying the blackmailers, seems like you'll get demand letters for ever

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    4. Re:You want to cheat on your wife? by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is one of the few cases where I don't support the activities of any party involved; the hackers for what they did, the website for providing/promoting such blatant infidelity, nor the people who use the site.

      Meh, people have been screwing around on one another for as long as they've had one another.

      Putting aside the underlying puritanical bullshit, who broke the law here? Yes, that's right, the hackers and the extortionists. Wah wah wah, people have affairs and they'e evil people .. such moralizing bullshit. Neither Ashley Madison nor the people using the site broke any laws.

      And I've long since stopped thinking the opinion of a bunch of hand-wringing church ladies is of any consequence. It's just people acting like they have authority over what others do. People who think infidelity will stop due to their own loud self-righteousness ... well, just as often those assholes find themselves getting caught doing the same fucking thing.

      Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, otherwise shut the fuck up. It's disgusting that you feel your opinion about what people you don't know is worth a damn, or that it has anything to do with you.

      Oh, wait, is your entire morality based on retribution against strangers because you feel they deserve it? That's not a fucking morality, that's being a self-righteous ass.

      What next, wanting us stoned for idolatry? Go stone yourself.

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    5. Re:You want to cheat on your wife? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      You are saying this was primarily marketed to closet gays in sub-Saharan Africa?

      I think he's confusing the terms "blackmail" and "black male".

    6. Re:You want to cheat on your wife? by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2

      If they are faithful to their spouse, are they any less likely to cheat their employer? I wonder. And regardless of the correlation, what counts is the matter of privacy. If no laws are broken, your employer has no business knowing about that any more than your sexual orientation, your fetishes, or how you treat your neighbours.

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    7. Re: You want to cheat on your wife? by DarkOx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      At least here in Virgina adultery is still in fact a crime, though rarely prosecuted unfortunately. As it should be, because I does in fact harm society at large and the party who is cheated on is essentially being defrauded with regard to their marriage contract.

      Personally I would like to see the state go after some of the AM users whose actual cheating can otherwise be corroborated. I think it would send a good message, and the fine is $250 bucks so its not ruin anyone. Sadly it wont happen since the lefties captured the governors office.

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    8. Re: You want to cheat on your wife? by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 2

      At least here in Virgina adultery is still in fact a crime

      How many laws have you violated today? I doubt that it's zero.

    9. Re: You want to cheat on your wife? by houghi · · Score: 2, Informative

      I would like the state to bud out what I do with my sexlife and if I cheat or not. If my wife has an issue, she can sue and get all the monies, but is should NOT be a default.

      Next the state will decide who I can and can not merry and how often I MUST have sex with said person.

      Adultery happens, get over it. If you don't do it, that is great. If your SO does not do it either, even better. But do not say what I should or should not do, even though I am against cheating on a personal level.

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    10. Re:You want to cheat on your wife? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Funny, Ive never cheated, but I managed to outgrow the "holier than thou" attitude when I disavowed Christianity and returned to being an atheist.

      It's attitudes like yours that make it so easy to blackmail people. Ditto for inflaming the situation in individual cases rather than trying to work out a solution that's in the best interests of everyone. In other words, self-righteous assholes like you are a big part of the problem.

      When you writ4

      Quite frankly, screw everyone all around in this ordeal. It's disgusting we're still talking about this.

      it makes me ask if you're secretly a masochist, because if you're so disgusted about it, why are YOU still talking about it? You obviously get off on it, so you might just as well stop being a hypocrite and admit it ....

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    11. Re:You want to cheat on your wife? by Wycliffe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      especially if you do it only because of the blackmail money - cheapskate

      Not paying up for blackmail is not being a cheapskate. It makes zero sense to pay blackmail money. So you pay the $2k today, what did that actually gain you? What's to stop them from coming back tomorrow and demanding another $2k or the week after and demanding $40k? What's to stop someone else from demanding $2k? Paying to keep information secret is a game you can't win. Old movies would try to pretend that you are paying for the originals or that they destroy all the other copies but in today's world it's impossible to prove that so it makes zero sense to ever pay blackmail. The only place it might make a little sense is if you get in a situation where it's either a continue flow of money and/or the identity of the blackmailer is known and has something to lose if they are found out as well. This occasionally happens where some politician pays support money for an illegitimate child or something like that but even this is a fool's game as the blackmailer can always increase the amount of money required at any time. Any time you're in a situation where there is one sided leverage then your best and only option is to figure out how to remove that leverage from being used.

    12. Re: You want to cheat on your wife? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You can have all that. Simply don't get married, instead offer your partner a contract, or just agree to live together and share stuff as long as it suits you.

      Marriage is just a pre-packaged contract between two people, with standard terms. They are popular because they are cheaper than getting a custom contract drawn up, and if there is a dispute it's generally cheaper and easier to resolve because the courts are well versed in the terms. It's better for people who are not lawyers too, because the terms are well advertised and understood, unlike a contract full of legalese.

      Unfortunately for you, many people are not willing to accept custom relationship contracts. Marriage is perceived as basically fair, and in most developed nations it more or less objectively is, so any desire to avoid those terms is seen as a desire for one side to benefit at the expense of the other.

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    13. Re:You want to cheat on your wife? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It's tempting to blame the victims here given the advertised purpose of the website but keep in mind that making generalizations about any group isn't going to accurately describe all of the members of that group. One of my friends was a victim of this breach and received a blackmail letter. She joined the site because she was worried her husband was cheating and wanted to see if he had an account. (He didn't but it turned out he was cheating and she caught him eventually by other means.) After the breach she's had to live with the fear that a whole group of moral vigilantes and scumbags have her in their crosshairs. They have her address and they've tracked her down and threatened to blackmail her. Thankfully no one has shown up at her door yet but she's worried one day they might. So please, have some sympathy for people who get these letters. They aren't necessarily all cheaters and even if they were, no one deserves to live in fear.

    14. Re: You want to cheat on your wife? by pr0fessor · · Score: 2

      No but I read a story about a them using it against a rape victim to compel them to testify in 2009.

    15. Re: You want to cheat on your wife? by ewibble · · Score: 2

      I have a question? If you are married and your partner refuses to have sex with you on a regular basis, or uses sex to get you to do things for them, are they in violation of that contract? Since you cannot go to someone for that service.

      This is nonsense, you cannot force someone to love you, or find you attractive, no matter what the law says. That is the real reason that adultery is bad, because it hurts the other person, it shows that you do not love them, and that hurts. The reason it is not enforced in Virgina is it would be ridiculous to do so.

    16. Re: You want to cheat on your wife? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Marriage is just a pre-packaged contract between two people, with standard terms [...] the terms are well advertised and understood [...] in most developed nations it more or less objectively is [fair]

      Oh, hell, no. It's a pre-packaged contract, but the terms are anything but well-advertised or understood, and it's blatantly unfair in many cases. You say an oath, which isn't binding, and sign a piece of paper, which is - despite the paper containing no description of the terms of the contract. The terms also change over time: divorces and marital disputes are judged by the family law of today, not what it was when the couple got married. In some jurisdictions you can even find yourself bound by the contract after cohabiting with a partner for a year, without even being aware that the contract exists.

      If engaged couples were presented with a full description of the standard terms and conditions of marriage, including the clauses regarding division of assets on divorce, half of them wouldn't get married. Which is why this should happen, because those marriages are unfair to the people who aren't aware of the terms; and why it won't happen, because society likes people to be married.

    17. Re: You want to cheat on your wife? by tnk1 · · Score: 2

      It's mostly a historical thing. There are people who were completely legitimate "liberals" and "progressives" in earlier times who would have found adultery and homosexuality abominable. Their "radicalism" or "liberalism" was the ability for all men to vote, or for the government to not shut down the free press. Of course, there were always people who thought that women should be able to vote, or homosexuals shouldn't be hung, but those were very, very radical people.

      The important thing to realist is that most (although not all) of today's conservatives espouse principles that would have made them liberals in the past.

      In effect, the "blue" states kept moving down the radical slope, and the conservatives simply kept trying to maintain the status quo that had been won by their liberal forebears. In that fight, the progressives would try to convince everyone that their reforms wouldn't mean that society was falling into a (relative) moral abyss by changing the existing order. So blue states will have laws that reflect what used to be the bright line where they assumed no one would ever go over. It was their response to the "slippery slope" arguments that conservatives made. It's not that they were just trying to appease conservatives... the liberals of the time actually believed that something like adultery could not be allowed to be legal.

    18. Re: You want to cheat on your wife? by pr0fessor · · Score: 2

      My wife told me once "If we ever get divorced I'm keeping the penis, you'll just have to learn to pee sitting down." sadly I didn't have a good come back at the time.

  3. Don't Pay by Infiniti2000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They will continue to blackmail you. Why wouldn't they when so successful the first time? It's not like they're trustworthy or anything. If you're stupid enough to get involved with Ashley Madison in the first place, then just fess up to your wife and family and deal with the consequences. But, in the end, most of us will have no sympathy for either the scumbags who use Ashley Madison or those who blackmail them.

  4. Sounds like he's bluffing to me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's interesting that in the letter, the blackmailer provides no information about the recipient apart from his name and address. He lists all of the information about his prior victim, but my guess is that it's all part of his ruse. I suspect that the websites are fake and the phone number is a line straight to the blackmailer, who will corroborate the story whenever any of the many recipients of his letters call.

    This requires more money to set up than an email, but the blackmailer knows that ``The wicked flee when no man pursueth."

  5. Amature Night by JBMcB · · Score: 4, Informative

    You don't send blackmail letters IN THE MAIL.

    This is now a federal crime, and the post office inspectors office, and probably the FBI, gets involved. Since this is in the news, they will probably be very interested in this case, as well.

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  6. Re:Misogyny Gets What it Deserves by vel-ex-tech · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That's a part of rape culture. What rape culture really means I've come to find doesn't really have anything to do with the act of rape. It's about FEEL GUILTY! As far as feminism is concerned, the fact that rape cultures require policies that can expel anybody assigned the male gender at birth for any baseless accusation of intention (not even an accusation of the act) is a pleasant side effect.

    Also, GP probably considers any sexual act between a cisgendered woman and somebody assigned the male gender at birth to be rape. Why did I need to pull out the much-hated term cisgendered there? Lest we forget, trans women are guilty of metaphysical rape for violating the female form and invading women. I hate to break it to you, anti-SJWs, but this part of your transphobic rhetoric is straight out of 2nd wave feminism.

    Logging in to post this even though it'll go to -1 by the top of the hour because what I'm saying is true. Anybody who doubts me should contact their state university and ask to be able to sit through a rape culture presentation. Also look up Camp Trans. They can educate you about feminism's utter hatred for trans women.

    Rape culture outside of college campuses is a big reason I'm currently at cold war with feminism. Feminism wants to control my body in retaliation for their perception I want to control cis women's bodies, simply because I was involuntarily placed in a role in a women's health initiative that my cisfemale co-workers refused to participate in.

    (Well, I suppose it was voluntary. I could have lost my job, my house, and starved to death instead. However, that's looking like the better choice in hindsight if the place I'm going next week to get my prescriptions renewed has also implemented rape culture.)

    Disclaimer: this may hold true only in Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, and southern Ontario--basically anywhere within the Michigan Womyn's Music Festival reality distortion field, but I understand that rape cultures have been implemented at several other prominent universities across the USA.

  7. Wife??? by Evtim · · Score: 2

    So, you say that women do not cheat? I wonder all those cheating man [according to feminist 90 % at least] - with who are they cheating? Goats? Or are there 1000 super women on earth that can have 100 000 000 lovers each? Remember, when the scandal came out it was shown that 90 or more percent of the users of the site are men and everyone was like "see how terrible men are, bloody cheaters" , was I the only one that asked the question above?

    I am so fed up with this crap!!! And your user name suggest you are a man! WTF? Get a grip of reality MAN!

  8. Re:Doesn't matter by swb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I would wager that the kind of person who couldn't cheat without a web site couldn't cheat with Ashley Madison even if it wasn't a complete fraud, either.

    They're probably not attractive or charismatic enough to attract a partner to begin with.