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Mainstream Scientists Cashing In On Climate Wagers (reuters.com)

Layzej writes: Climate contrarians have long predicted imminent global cooling. A few have been willing to place wagers that mainstream scientists have been quick to accept. Often acceptance of the bet is followed by immediate retraction, as was the case when "Bastardi's Wager" was accepted by Joseph Romm or when Maurice Newman's $10,000 bet was accepted by physicist Brian Schmidt. In some cases, bets have been formalized and the terms of many of those wagers are coming to a close. It may not be surprising to learn that those who put their money on the side of mainstream science are the ones who are cashing in.

Reuters reports that British climate expert Chris Hope just won a 2,000 pound sterling ($2,830) wager made five years ago against two members of the Global Warming Policy Foundation, who had bet Hope that the Earth would be cooling by now. They also highlight a $10,000 bet made in 2005 between British climate modeler James Annan and two Russian solar physicists. The solar physicists had counted on waning solar output to halt warming. Annan will win if average global temperatures from 2013-17 are warmer than 2003-07. "Things are looking good for my bet," Annan said.

Keith Pickering reports on a series of three bets between Brian Schmidt and climate contrarian David Evans, who also believed that diminishing solar output would dominate the temperatures of the last decade and beyond. The wagers pay out in 2019, 2024, and 2029. Pickering concludes, "What Evans apparently doesn't realize is that because of the thermal inertia of the oceans, within narrow bounds we can already predict what global temperatures will be in 2019, 2024, and 2029. And David Evans is going to lose his shirt."

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  1. "Climate contrarians" by DaHat · · Score: -1, Troll

    I guess trying to associate those who don't accept the concept (or claimed extent) of man made global warming with the holocaust with the term 'deniers' wasn't working... a new term has been coined.

    Granted, this is from the same group who has had a hard time naming the issue, going from global cooling, to global warming, anthropomorphic global warming, to climate change, to climate weirding and seemingly back to climate change.

    Rather than arguments as to what we think the weather will be today, tomorrow or in the following decades... I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what the temperature is supposed to be.

    1. Re:"Climate contrarians" by Notorious+G · · Score: -1, Troll

      The temperature is supposed to be less than whatever it is now or will be in the future. We are in a inter-glacial period of a ice age right now and temperatures are as cold as they've ever been based on geological time scales. They must be kept this way forever and never, ever, go up.

    2. Re:"Climate contrarians" by Notorious+G · · Score: -1, Troll

      In 1997, NOAA claimed that the Earth was 3.83 degrees warmer than today. Do you even science, bro?

    3. Re:"Climate contrarians" by dlt074 · · Score: 0, Troll

      "and NO ONE in mainstream science is predicting *weather* or exact temperatures in "the following decades" and you well know it"

      that's because we should all already be dead from all the predictions made in the 70's 80's 90's and even some idiots predicted bad things would happen by now in the 00's.

      that's the problem 40 years of failed predictions leave us tired of the doom and gloom. tired of the power/money grab. just tired of pathetic Chicken Littles, crying wolf all the time.

      your earth death cult tires us. stop trying to hijack science and pretend your shit don't stink.

  2. Completely fabricated nonsense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    What is this the 5th time they've adjust the raw data to fit the politically correct narrative of MSM?

    Torture the data long enough and it'll eventually submit to anyone's model...apparently.

  3. Predicting the future.... by moeinvt · · Score: -1, Troll

    "Pickering concludes, 'What Evans apparently doesn't realize is that because of the thermal inertia of the oceans, within narrow bounds we can already predict what global temperatures will be in 2019, 2024, and 2029...' "

    A major part of science is the ability to verify a theory by independently repeatable experiments and observations. Predicting the future is not "science". You can create a predictive model by retro-fitting current observations to past data, looking at trends and making certain assumptions, but it's still only a model. Such a model can be used, but it should never be "believed". That's the problem with the global warming *cough* "Climate Change" alarmists. They honestly think they KNOW what global temperatures are going to be over the next several decades based on their climate models. The same types of models from decades ago made all sorts of dire predictions that never came to fruition and the same is true of today's models.

    1. Re:Predicting the future.... by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: -1, Troll

      Do you really not know, or are you pretending not to understand? I'm not sure which is worse, ignorance or deliberate lies.

      It used to be called "global warming". But, this term got discredited due to scientists abusing science in order to push a left-wing agenda. So, they rebranded as "climate change". It's the same as how "liberals" rebranded as "progressives". Old wine in new bottles. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

      Deep conspiracy? Why yes there is. It's not some crazy James Bond oval table with liberals cackling and stroking white cats. But there is indeed a general agreement, you might call it a hivemind, that does want to use global warming, I'm sorry climate change, to enact radical left-wing policies and use the excuse of global warming, I'm sorry again climate change, to get them passed without recourse to voting or any of that old-fashioned 20th century white people stuff.

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  4. Re:Let's bet on something more useful by MightyMartian · · Score: 0, Troll

    I bet advocates of pseudo science will always claim they're the victims of persecution.

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