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Privacy Ombudsman Could Handle EU Complaints About US Surveillance (betanews.com)
Mark Wilson writes with this story from Beta News: One of the greatest problems facing anyone trying to tackle the problem of privacy on the web is dealing with the ideologies of different countries, and how this affects data sharing. A level of surveillance that is deemed acceptable in the US, for instance, may be considered completely objectionable in another. The latest suggestion to help overcome this seemingly insurmountable problem is to set up a privacy ombudsman that would be able to handle European complaints and queries about US surveillance.
That would be zero without a warrant issued by a public judicial system with oversight and accountability.
once and for all and realize the US is anything but an ally.
In Capitalist US, the commerce controls the Government.
Ombudsmen, dispute resolution policies, mandatory arbitration. Fuck this. If corporations want to be people, then I want to be able to sue them for breaking the law and violating my rights. If foreign governments spy on me, I want to be able to get a restraining order on them.
...with one large circular file.
Silence is a state of mime.
TFA is pretty thin on details ... as in it doesn't have any.
So, what, an American agency is suggesting there's an American to poo-poo privacy concerns and rubber stamp everything as OK?
Sorry, how the data sharing agreement stays null and void, and the US stops acting like they have some right to this information, and that if they want it they do it with the right paperwork and in accordance with the law?
This is just a proposal to have some idiot flunky say "trust us, it's fine". Yeah, sorry, let the rest of the world control this ... letting Americans appoint an ombudsman to tell us how nice they're playing about surveillance?
Nobody believes that shit.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
Handle or solve? Because those two are radically different concepts.
A level of surveillance that is deemed acceptable in the US, for instance, may be considered completely objectionable in another.
I think what they mean to say is that in some European countries and the EU itself, people still have rights guaranteed by a constitution and and the countries are not ruled by a bunch of thugs who consider it a minor inconvenience that can and should be ignored. The text should have read " .... deem acceptable by the thugs who rule us .... ".
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
The California Franchise Tax Board has Ombudsmen.
Being paid by the state, you can guess their answer when you raise a grievance against the state...
but this perhaps noble effort should not in any way dilute the efforts to have a public representative in the Fisa court process.
Europeans generally have a higher trust in their own government, than a private cooperation.
We especially do not trust large foreign corporations.
I don't mind paying a little extra for my goods in the short run, if this can prevent large corporations gaining too much power in the long run. (Yes, this might hamper 'competition' for them)
As long as it is a level playing field, European rules in Europe, and US rules in the US.
How would the Americans react if most of their data was spied upon (E-Mail, credit card transactions, corporate trade secrets) by foreign private cooperationâ(TM)s and government agencies in e.g. China/Russia/Europe.
And if that doesn't work start extrajudicial rendition following US foreign policy, you could release offenders on a rural road somewhere in mexico.
The proposal is just another show for well known clowns we have seen already many times over.
National security has been and will be the ultimate priority to any nation. No treaties and law will prevent agencies pursuit fulfilling their duty, they will find and create new loopholes which will allow them to continue whatever needed to get all the information they believe there is to be get.
Such treaties and safeguards are waste of time and money.
The amount of surveillance that is considered acceptable in the US isn't even acceptable within the US to anyone except primarily the older generations who know nothing about it and are voting based on a position of ignorance and fear of what they don't know.
We just have an issue of the older generation also being out biggest voters which is what is causing much of our problems as they are voting based on a rose tinted yesteryear that doesn't exist anymore and for many of them never existed to begin with outside of their own memory. We need to get younger voters who can actually stand up to them because, as it stands now, they are collectively selling out their children's and grandchildren's futures trying to make their retirements easier all while calling people who have it worse than they did lazy when the younger generations are working harder just to put a roof over their head than they did providing a life for their family. And they keep mistaking improvements created by technology for improvements at a societal level and telling them to do stuff that they did growing up which are no longer viable options anymore.
And it is kinda sad watching people who could drop out of high school and still get a job that paid well enough to make a career out of and support a family telling college graduates how easy they have it and how lazy they are for working a job and still being too broke to support themselves and how if they don't like their job they can just go and get a new one all the while neglecting the world they grew up in is not the world he grew up in in those regards.
The US government should not be allowed to behave like a rogue state. I'd like to see an EU agency handle complaints. I don't believe that self regulation can work, or any agency run by the US regime. Self regulation was tried with the financial sector, and breathtaking levels of criminality resulted. Illegally spying on the citizens of other countries should be dealt with in the countries against which the crimes occurred. Those who were responsible should be stripped of diplomatic immunity, declared persona non grata, have their assets frozen, and be subject to international arrest warrants. If the US refuses to deport them, there should be sanctions instituted against any companies with which they are involved. Since most US politicians are apparently taking 'contributions' [known as bribes in the rest of the world] from corporations, that would rapidly lead to some corporate pressure against this kind of criminality.
To which the Europeans Should just tell them to fuck off . After all they are there (supposedly) to represent our interests not America's!
I am totally sure that the NSA will take whatever this privacy ombudsman says to heart, and make real changes to what they do. Facebook is sure to do this as well. As well as the zillion ad companies.
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Hahahahahaha Hahahahaha Hahahaha. The SJWs have a lot to say this week.
The USA has never cared about the laws of another country. Many countries are helping the US conduct mass surveillance so the USA doesn't want anything to change. Most of all, the official power of an ombudsman (really an Internal Affairs cop) is to name and shame: That doesn't work when the government can bury any report it dislikes.
This should appear as writing on the wall to the elite that NWO/One world gov't just ain't going to work out but they sure as hell are going to screw a lot of things up trying aren't they? To the masses this appears as inbreeding...
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