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Wikipedia Editors Revolt, Vote "No Confidence" In Newest Board Member (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader writes with news about an editor revolt at Wikimedia to remove Arnnon Geshuri from the foundation's board. Ars reports: "Nearly 200 Wikipedia editors have taken the unprecedented step of calling for a member of the Wikimedia Foundation board of directors to be tossed out. The Wikimedia Foundation, which governs both the massive Wikipedia online encyclopedia and related projects, appointed Arnnon Geshuri to its board earlier this month. His appointment wasn't well received by the Wikipedia community of volunteer editors, however. And last week, an editor called for a 'vote of no confidence on Arnnon Geshuri.' The voting, which has no legally binding effect on the Wikimedia Foundation, is now underway. As of press time, 187 editors had voted in favor of this proposition: 'In the best interests of the Wikimedia Foundation, Arnnon Geshuri must be removed from his appointment as a trustee of the Wikimedia Foundation Board.' Just 13 editors have voted against, including Wikimedia board member Guy Kawasaki.

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  1. Re:No Context by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No-poach agreements only hurt employees.

  2. Re:What would they expect him to do? by timrod · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with that statement is that HR professionals are usually required to have some knowledge of employment law. For this person, this means one of two things:

    Either he saw the agreement and had no idea it could be in violation of employment law, which means he was incompetent at his own job;
    or he saw the agreement, knew it could be a violation and instead decided to ignore that and willfully proceed to fire these people without reporting it.

    Given the level of training most companies do these days to ensure that no one violates antitrust or other employment laws, it's likely that the second one is the case.

  3. Re:No Context by TWX · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The guy was involved with big money and for big corporations. He might not have the best mindset sit at the board of a charity. Some time ago the Mozilla foundation sold itself to the advertisers. Nobody wants another disaster like that with the WMF, which is so much more relevant to everybody. I have no opinion on the guy but I find it great that the editors check that the board of trustees is actually composed of people who can be trusted.

    I used to try to contribute edits to Wikipedia complete with sources only to find that people that spend an inordinate amount of time on the site roll-back my edits for reasons that were never justified. So while on the one hand I may not like people that look at no-poach agreements favorably, on the other hand, screw those involved with Wikipedia that have overinflated opinions of themselves and their position.

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  4. Re:What would they expect him to do? by crunchygranola · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm sorry - the argument that he can't be held to account for breaking the law because he was just trying to keep his (very well paid) job is about as weak a case as you could possibly make.

    A top executive position is not some office flunky who only does what he is told, an HR Vice President has the legal and fiduciary responsibility to tell his boss he is committing a crime and to cut it out - not facilitate it. If he can't stand up to Schmidt, he can't stand up to Wales.

    I would say that any other reasons for not employing him are superfluous.

    BTW, do we know what his salary at that "non-profit" company is?

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  5. Re:What would they expect him to do? by TapeCutter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    he was doing as he was ordered

    Telling people what they want to hear is not "advice".

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  6. Re:No Context by stephanruby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So people are a little butt hurt. I don't see what this has to do at all with anything.

    Employees of those major companies were blacklisted from seeking work at other major companies.

    They would still get through the hiring and interviewing process, but then they would get automatically and systematically rejected with no reason given.

    The least we can do is to blacklist him from positions of importance. This guy is a criminal. You don't put criminals in charge of organizations that you care about.

  7. Re:No Context by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Our society is supposed to believe that people can improve themselves and we should (eventually) forgive people.

    Sure. They guy who just got out of jail for mass-murder can cut my lawn. He can manage the local Wal-Mart. He can teach English-as-a-Second-Language classes to orphan refugees. Just... maybe let's all agree that "passenger airline pilot" isn't the job for him.

    Point I'm trying to make is that while second chances are a Good Thing, it's also very reasonable that some bridges are forever burned, and a different way to cross the gorge needs be found.

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  8. Re:What would they expect him to do? by crunchygranola · · Score: 5, Insightful

    BTW, do we know what his salary at that "non-profit" company is?

    Just that the Wikimedia Foundation is swimming in more money than they can spend. Part of that is due to really stupid non-profit laws that prevent setting up a trust account (which can be done by donors... just not the non-profit) to save the money for a rainy day...

    Say what? Then how is that the Wikimedia Foundation is starting to set up an endowment this year if such a thing is impossible?

    The endowment which they are just now creating is being funded with $5 million, after burning through almost $300 million in the last several years, and it is just 7% of their projected fundraising revenue this year. And if their problem is that they are "swimming in money" why the aggressive year-after-year fundraising goals of 10-20% growth every single year? That is the growth plan of an aggressive for-profit start-up, not a non-profit.

    The fact is, Wikimedia could have easily funded an endowment long ago that would keep Wikipedia on-line forever without requiring another dollar in fundraising.

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