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OSINT Analysis of Militia Communications, Equipment and Frequencies (wordpress.com)

An anonymous reader writes: On January 2, 2016, the headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon, United States, were occupied by armed members of rump militias in one of the longest-running law enforcement standoff in American history. The Radiomasterreport blog, using publicly available information, wrote an OSINT Analysis of Militia Communications, Radio Equipment and Frequencies. The research results has astonishing conclusions: far-right patriot militas openly carrying +3000$ AR15 rifles and US military body armour also use cheap 30$ unsecure chinese Baofeng walkie talkie radios with no encryption whatsoever. Any simple ham radio operator , police scanner owner, or even some folks with a Software Defined Radio can receive those militia communications.

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  1. Wannabe soldiers by spiritplumber · · Score: 4, Insightful

    have no concept of operational security. And now to Ric Romero with the news!

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    1. Re:Wannabe soldiers by OverlordQ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well a non-trivial number of these guys are former military and so during that time, they just had some poor asshole who carried the radio and even if they used it, they never had to worry about encryption, it was somebody elses job.

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    2. Re: Wannabe soldiers by Nidi62 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Patriots standing up for civil rights.

      I didn't realize that setting fire to government land because they wouldn't let you use it for grazing was a civil right. I must have missed that clause in the Constitution. Finicum isn't a hero, isn't a martyr, he took up arms against the government of the United States. This was a modern day version of the Jon Brown Raid, and those that perpetrated it deserve the same fate as Jon Brown.

      Also, I like how you complain both about how the police now have to wear body cameras in one sentence and then complain about them turning them off in another. Nice cognitive dissonance there.

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    3. Re:Wannabe soldiers by bobbied · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Look, to be fair, off the shelf radios with encryption are not easy to afford and are difficult to manage.

      But that doesn't mean they don't have OPSEC here, it just means they don't encrypt the audio. There are other ways to obscure what you are saying enough that the listener may not be able to easily figure out what you are communicating. Using code names for things, altering numeric data in reversible ways all are easy to implement, don't require encrypted radios and provide a measure of OPSEC without the expense or logistical key distribution problems.

      Besides, all the tactical information the government really needs would be observable even if they had encrypted radios. The problem is that once you hit that transmit key, it's like you are striking a match in a dark room and revealing your position no matter what you say. Tactically, knowing where things are is the most important, followed by knowing when they are communicating. Anything more is nice, but unnecessary if you are interested in making an armed assault.

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    4. Re: Wannabe soldiers by Nidi62 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Further, the occupation was a protest to violation of double jeopardy and persecution of a man for an accidental brush fire.

      An "accidental brush fire" that happened to burn up evidence that the two men in question had committed numerous offenses related to poaching and was corroborated by a member of their own family. The two men in question also publicly stated that the people occupying the facility in no way spoke for them, and most of the locals, including local Paiute Indians, wanted the "protesters" to leave as well. As I said several times already, these people committed a modern day Jon Brown's Raid, committed an openly hostile act against the United States government, and should be treated accordingly.

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    5. Re: Wannabe soldiers by bkr1_2k · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The other thing that people seem to miss regarding these YeeHawdis is that they are idiots.

      This is the problem with most conservatives. They're conservative because they're stupid.

      And this is the problem with people who spout "left" or "right" instead of thinking for themselves. they over-simplify issues, generalize the "other" as "stupid" or "thoughtless" or just as a whole, rather than as thinking individuals, and they make themselves look like assholes.

      The "left" and "right" are both wrong. Thinking about a subject on its merits (rather than because it's your side's point of view) is the only way to rationally and intelligent consider anything.

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  2. Re:"Standoff" by Nidi62 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Considering what happened to the Native Americans, why is this a surprise to anyone?

    These constitution-loving folks seem to have forgotten exactly how the west was won.

    "Well, I didn't think they'd do it to white people..."

    You do realize even the local Paiute tribe wanted these idiots to leave, right? And that local ranchers actually already had grazing rights on the refuge. They even took down the fence of a local rancher to "help" him and he said he didn't even want them there either.

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  3. Re: Militia ? by Nidi62 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And the violence committed was?

    A group of people standing in your office protesting is a sit in. A group of people standing in your office protesting with guns is an occupation and a hostage situation. By entering the facility with weapons they made the implicit threat (and following statements such as Bundy's and Finicum's made it explicit) that you are willing to use those weapons. That's the violence.

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  4. Re: Militia ? by Nidi62 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who are the hostages in this situation?

    Metaphor much? The possession of firearms takes this from a peaceful protest to a violent, forceful act.

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  5. Re: Militia ? by TsuruchiBrian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "All I did was point a gun at the shopkeepers head and say that I would murder him in front of his family if he didn't give me all the money in the register. I didn't commit any violence. I was just exercising my right to freedom of speech."