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Jaguar Land Rover To Test Autonomous Cars In 'Living Lab' (thestack.com)

An anonymous reader writes: British automaker Jaguar Land Rover has announced its £5.5 million investment in a 'living lab' for the testing and development of connected and self-driving car technologies. The UK Connected Intelligent Transport Environment (CITE) will span 41-miles of public roads around Coventry and Solihull, and will be used to test new connected and autonomous vehicle (CAV) systems in real-life conditions. The company is planning to install roadside sensor equipment around the lab route to monitor vehicle-to-vehicle and vehicle-to-infrastructure communications. The fleet will include 100 CAV cars, which will test four different connectivity technologies; 4G long-term evolution (LTE) and its more advanced version LTE-V, dedicated short-range communication (DSRC), and local Wi-Fi hotspots.

24 comments

  1. Real Life? by Mikkeles · · Score: 2

    So, does that mean a foot of snow on the ground, at night, with no pre-entry of the route?

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    1. Re:Real Life? by MindStalker · · Score: 0

      Don't forget about adding deer, pedestrians and bikes who don't follow the law.
      Also Google's car freaked out when a paper bag rolled across the street infront of it, Don't forget to simulate that and everything else you can and can't imagine.

    2. Re:Real Life? by Lab+Rat+Jason · · Score: 1

      To this point... I've also freaked out when a paper bag rolled in front of my car. And I don't drive over bags and boxes that simply "appear" to be strewn about by a storm... I've also seen Seran Wrap stretched across the road between two power poles (someone's idea of a prank, or perhaps trying to steal a car, but I took my keys with me when I got out to cut it down)... the car should dutifully stop whenever there is an unknown object in the road. I once heard a story (dunno if it's true) about a UPS driver that stopped at a cardboard box in the street, only to find a 2 year old boy playing inside. If he'd just assumed it was empty things would have been very bad. I've got faith that autonomous cars will eventually overcome all of this, but they definitely have a long road ahead of them. ;)

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    3. Re:Real Life? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's in the UK, so no, it doesn't. Because real life in the UK doesn't involve a foot of snow on the ground.

    4. Re:Real Life? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Funny

      Because real life in the UK doesn't involve a foot of snow on the ground.

      Or orthodontia.

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    5. Re:Real Life? by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      Sheesh, this is a Land Rover we're talking about here, not some woosy hatchback. It doesn't need collision avoidance or other fancy gadgets, it just drives through or over everything, including deer, pedestrians, bikes, houses, hills, rivers, and most mountain ranges.

      The only thing you'd really need is a non-Land Rover following on behind to pick up the bits that fall off it from time to time, driven by a priest to deal with any Lucas Electric problems.

    6. Re: Real Life? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And a drum of oil.

    7. Re:Real Life? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      So, does that mean a foot of snow on the ground, at night, with no pre-entry of the route?

      Why does everyone assume that foreknowledge of the route is going to be so difficult to come by? The automakers will generate that data the same way Google did, or they will license it from someone who will do so.

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    8. Re:Real Life? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So just like Google maps it will be out of date and not include road closures and/or new roads until 9 months later? Excellent. Can't wait for my autonomous car to try to drive over a road that hasn't existed for the last half year...

    9. Re:Real Life? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      So just like Google maps it will be out of date and not include road closures and/or new roads until 9 months later? Excellent. Can't wait for my autonomous car to try to drive over a road that hasn't existed for the last half year...

      The car still isn't going to drive through a fence, but it may take you down someone's driveway...

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    10. Re:Real Life? by tehcyder · · Score: 2

      Because real life in the UK doesn't involve a foot of snow on the ground.

      Or orthodontia.

      Or weekly mass school shootings.

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    11. Re:Real Life? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where in the UK do you get more than 10cm of snow, never mind 30cm?

  2. At least they're close.. by RdeCourtney · · Score: 2

    At least they're close by to the factory so when they break down every 2 days they can get back on the road quickly! (I had an LR4 which was an awesome machine when, for the 1 month of 12 that I had it, there wasn't some problem with it!).

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  3. Needs connectivity? by sunderland56 · · Score: 1

    They're designing a car that needs internet connectivity? This could bring a whole new meaning to the phrase "Dead Zone".

    1. Re:Needs connectivity? by bugs2squash · · Score: 1

      Well if they send it to Coventry nothing will communicate with it.

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  4. ..and local Wi-Fi hotspots... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WTF

    If rebooting my rack causes car wrecks around the corner you may be doing it wrong!

  5. Why Coventry? by PPH · · Score: 1

    Why don't they do their R&D around the parent companies headquarters? Let a bunch of autonomous Land Rovers loose in Mumbai and watch the antics ensue.

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  6. There are no British car companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "British automaker Jaguar Land Rover..."

    Not quite. _Indian_ Automaker Tata, who owns Jaguar Land Rover ...

    They are no more British than Rolls Royce, Mini or Bentley which are all German-owned.

    And all of them will move to the continent after the Brexit.

    1. Re:There are no British car companies by Righ · · Score: 1

      AC, Ariel, Ascari, Aston Martin, Briggs, Bristol, Caterham, Ginetta, London Taxi Company, McLaren, Morgan, Noble and TVR are all British owned, British based car companies.

  7. Living lab by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was wondering when someone would have actually done something like this.

    As in, actually monitor real-life conditions on the road since they vary MASSIVELY from what is road-legal.
    Practically every local area in existence has their own little weird road quirks done by the community themselves. (or at least people that frequently use the road)
    Yes, even illegal manoeuvres. So many people break the law of the roads without even realising it, since they never come up in driving tests or theory tests, or it was before their time and they've never been retested.

    In fact, I am sure even Google recently made a post about this saying that their cars were more likely to cause accidents BECAUSE people don't obey the law.
    They'd have to program law-breaking code in to their engine to be reliably save on the roads.

    If they were to put these sorts of sensors up, anonymously, everywhere, they'd see the immense amount of law-breaking happening.
    Yet, barely any of it increases the chance of accidents. In fact, many of them lower the chance considerably.
    It is the people that obey the law to the letter that end up CAUSING most accidents, besides the usual drunk morons, illness, tiredness, phone users etc.
    It even includes speed-related issues as well. Roads without overly restrictive speeds have stupidly lower accidents. There is barely any differences with lane switching or road design to account for that fact, or anything else in their road laws in those respective countries.

    tl;dr everyone already breaks the law, get rid of most of it, it saves nobody and provably causes more accidents.

  8. "We don't consider customers cargo" - Jaguar by Flytrap · · Score: 1
    In June 2015, Wolfgang Epple, head of research and development at JLR, was widely quotes as saying that JLR will never make a self driving car:

    Speaking through its head of research and development, Wolfgang Epple, JLR says customers should not expect an autonomous car from them as it has no plans to manufacture cars that drive themselves for one reason: They view owners of self-driving car or people who ride in them as cargo and don't consider their customers as such. ''We don't consider customers cargo. We don't want to build a robot that delivers the cargo from A to B"

    I wonder what changed in the last 6 months.

    1. Re:"We don't consider customers cargo" - Jaguar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's amusing because JLR is a wholly owned subsidiary of TATA Motors. TATA is based in India and their primary sector is commercial cargo vehicles.

  9. Realistic testing by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    How do they emulate drunk pedestrians?

  10. Already autonomous? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My LR defender drives pretty much where it feels like with only limited response to driver input from controls like steering wheel, brakes, accelerator. Seems they are half way there.