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K-12 CS Framework Draft: Kids Taught To 'Protect Original Ideas' In Early Grades
theodp writes: Remember that Code.org and ACM-bankrolled K-12 Computer Science Education Framework that Microsoft, Google, Apple, and others were working on? Well, a draft of the framework was made available for review on Feb. 3rd, coincidentally just 3 business days after U.S. President Barack Obama and Microsoft President Brad Smith teamed up to announce the $4+ billion Computer Science for All initiative for the nation's K-12 students. "Computationally literate citizens have the responsibility to learn about, recognize, and address the personal, ethical, social, economic, and cultural contexts in which they operate," explains the section on Fostering an Inclusive Computing Culture, one of seven listed 'Core K-12 CS Practices'. "Participating in an inclusive computing culture encompasses the following: building and collaborating with diverse computational teams, involving diverse users in the design process, considering the implication of design choices on the widest set of end users, accounting for the safety and security of diverse end users, and fostering inclusive identities of computer scientists." Hey, do as they say, not as they do! Also included in the 10-page draft (pdf) is a section on Law and Ethics, which begins: "In early grades, students differentiate between responsible and irresponsible computing behaviors. Students learn that responsible behaviors can help individuals while irresponsible behaviors can hurt individuals. They examine legal and ethical considerations for obtaining and sharing information and apply those behaviors to protect original ideas."
Kids will learn to protect original ideas.
So they'll learn not to protect unoriginal ideas like 99.9% of software patents.
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get them while they are young.
It sounds like this is more of framework that is mostly about educational standards for teaching right-think in CS. There is a horrific amount of PC buzzwords in there,when the real focus of education should be teaching students the skills they need.
This crazy overreach with indoctrination in schools is unsettling. Apart from the pledge of allegiance, it was pretty subtle and frowned upon when I was in school. I think most teachers actually cared about teaching and kept the crazies who wanted to use the position to indoctrinate in check.
Now it's the other way around.
Sounds like a pretty good argument for taking the federal government out of education entirely.
Centralized mind control through propaganda; acculturation of our nation's youth to silence, oppression, and acquiescence to authority; normalization of the police state; blind nationalism through a fantastic daily "pledge." All of these things are strong counterarguments to the "fair and equal opportunity/better education for all " kind of rhetoric that comes out of Washington.
Seriously, think of the children. Think of all the misguided ideas their heads will be filled with. Think of the cultural values they will be taught to cherish and those they will be taught to revile. Think of the world they will grow up to accept or even create.
Whatever happened to civics class?
Teach your children well... and keep them far, far away from federally funded schools.
The full quotes from TFA, Law and Ethics section
K-8 Progression
In early grades, students differentiate between responsible and irresponsible computing behaviors. Students learn that responsible behaviors can help individuals while irresponsible behaviors can hurt individuals. They examine legal and ethical considerations for obtaining and sharing information and apply those behaviors to protect original ideas. As students progress academically, they engage in legal and ethical behaviors to guard against intrusive applications and promote a safe and secure computing experience.
9-12 Statement
Laws impact many areas of computing in an effort to protect privacy, data, property, information, and identity. The legal oversight of computing involves tradeoffs; such laws can expedite or delay advancements and infringe upon or protect human rights. Ethical concerns also shape computing practices and professions. International variations in legal and ethical considerations should be examined.
So based on 3 words in a DRAFT statement of a section that considers Laws and Ethics, you want tar and feather the whole course? Where the fuck do you consider legal aspects of computing if you don't do it here. And FFS this could easily apply to GPL or any other such license that relies on the legal framework to enforce its restrictions.
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It is not about protecting "their" ideas, it's about brain washing people that it's okay to own an idea. This already happens today, but we sure don't hear any debate about the Government fixing patent trolls and the laws that allow abuse. In reality, that is small potatoes. Big players own all the big ideas. No need to troll is involved.
The brain washing will stop us peons from challenging the status quo.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
I was worried for a moment that generations of elementary school children would be forced to suffer through actual computer science content, like programming, sorting, assembly language, and computer architecture. I'm relieved that my worries were unfounded: they just seem to be forced to suffer through the same social activist crap they already have to sit through, except instead of the penguin getting along with the lion, it will now be expressed in the more kid-friendly terms of "inclusive design" and "team diversity". Yay!
Here's the full quote:
"In early grades, students differentiate between responsible and irresponsible computing
behaviors. Students learn that responsible behaviors can help individuals while
irresponsible behaviors can hurt individuals. They examine legal and ethical
considerations for obtaining and sharing information and apply those behaviors to protect
original ideas. As students progress academically, they engage in legal and ethical
behaviors to guard against intrusive applications and promote a safe and secure
computing experience. "
What these Kings of the Universe don't realize is normal people don't share and will never share their Ayn Rand -cocaine-driven amphetamine-fueled vision of extreme indivuduality at the expense of the health of society (which is the bedrock upon which protection of individuality rests).
So, sure, go ahead promote those discussions. The more discussion there is, the less well it goes for software patent lawyers like Brad Smith who, readers should know, basically originated the idea of using software patents as an offense weapon to supress innovation while he was at M$:
http://arstechnica.com/busines...
http://archive.fortune.com/mag...
which directly led to all other tech companies following suit and finally the fantastical, supernatrual prosperity of every Chinese take-out in Tyler, Texas.
All that's going to happen is they're going to find out no one shares their idea of societal good and justice. Every survey finds that young people are far more concerned with creating an fair, free and egalitarian society that benefits everyone, rather than the winner-take-all psychopathic shithole that is America at this particular tick of the clock.
Not everyone blew their brains out snorting coke while reading Ayn Rand in the 80s. That's a particular generation and they have a particular , uh, "view" of what the goals laws of society should support. Going on 40 years later now, it's getting to be old-man-dying-time for this particular strain of sociopathic, societal predators. Can't happen too soon for my money. Here, take it with you; fuckin' see ya later.
"Referrer Madness" become required viewing in the schools?
ITIM there should be no reserved characters when naming computer scientists. Not sure if the names are case sensitive though. I suspect sensitivity training would tell us they are.
"National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
You keep paying my salary for 70 years after I'm dead and I'll consider paying for your fucking IP.
Do you think they could have mentioned "diversity" a few more times? After all, $4 billion dollars should be able to buy a lot more content-free baffle-gab.
$4 billion of subsidies for a "Don't copy that floppy!" lesson plan ...
First they came for the tape decks, but I didn't say anything because I had a cassette recorder.
Then they came for the cassette recorders, but I didn't say anything because I had already switched to a vcr.
Then they came for the vcr recorders, but I didn't say anything because I had already switched to a dvd.
Then they came for the dvd recorders, but I didn't say anything because I had already switched to flash storage.
Then they came for the flash storage, but I didn't say anything because there was just nothing worth recording any more.
This is what happens when you over-play your hand.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
I admire your sangfroid - you find the indoctrination 'unsettling', whereas I find it downright disturbing and more than a little bit scary.
Too much passion in a statement tends to alienate people who might otherwise be receptive; however, I do find the situation deeply disturbing.
What's more unsettling is how there are active campaigns to ban homeschooling and limit access to private schools, even though outcomes for both are almost always better than public schools. Couple that with the ideological takeover of education and it makes you fear for the future.
I know this will get me labeled as a right-wing crazy (even though I'm not, I'm equally disgusted with the political-right), but this is such a perfect microcosm of what the Democratic Party actually pushes vs what they say they want to accomplish:
1. Push diversity in a field that is already pretty diverse (unless you exclude Asians, which these people always do).
2. Switch the focus from technical knowledge to social grouping (they tried this in Math in the 90's with obviously poor results).
3. Don't pirate movies or music! Those are our biggest campaign donors^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H ethical concerns!
We bear the costs of converting original ideas
Let me FTFY: "We bear the cost of stealing (Stacker, etc), buying out (Powerpoint, etc), and locking out (Java, IE, Word formats, etc) via incompatibility other's original ideas to pursue our god-given right to do whatever the hell we want to."
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
The way they teach math now is so stupid and intentionally non-intuitive that it's no wonder kids can't do simple tasks like make change.
Could you please explain what your are talking about? I have two kids in public schools, and the math instruction is pretty much exactly what it should be. They focus on the basics, include real world applications (including "making change"), and allow smart kids to move ahead at their own pace on the computer.
Perhaps you are talking about New Math which was introduced in the 1960s, and then abandoned by 1970. That was five decades ago.
I'm not the person you're replying to, but he/she might be referring to programs like CPM, which had mixed results when I was in school.
The problem isn't that it uses real world examples (those are excellent in teaching the "why" instead of just the "how"), it's that there is also an emphasis on group participation and strange unorthodox methods that aren't necessarily better.
As for "New Math" being five decades ago... I've seen some relative's kids' homework that is required to be solved in strange ways using matrices, etc, that is definitely outside of the realm of traditional math.
he/she might be referring to programs like CPM
CPM is a middle and high school program, when kids should be far beyond the ability to "make change". It is also specifically targeted toward college bound kids, where a more theoretical approach may be justified.
he/she might be referring to programs like CPM
CPM is a middle and high school program, when kids should be far beyond the ability to "make change". It is also specifically targeted toward college bound kids, where a more theoretical approach may be justified.
You have obvious stopped paying cash for goods. There are plenty of cashiers who, when the total is $18.25, and you give them $20.25, give you back your 25 cents, and then another $1.75, instead of just giving you two bucks.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
You have obvious stopped paying cash for goods. There are plenty of cashiers who, when the total is $18.25, and you give them $20.25, give you back your 25 cents, and then another $1.75, instead of just giving you two bucks.
If you really want to throw them for a loop, hand them $20.30 and watch them call the manager to figure out how to give back $2.05 in change. This has gotten so bad that I use only whole dollars at the stores and dump all the change into a jar at home. Coinstar does a better job counting change than these kids!
The quality of the design, code, etc. is less important than some meaningless or circumstantial characteristic of person who wrote it.
a) The President cannot unilaterally create a Cabinet-level department. In addition, all Cabinet member appointments require Senate approval.
b) The Department of Education Organization Act merely split Education from Health and Human Services, which were previously one department.
c) The earliest Department of Education was created in 1867, somewhat before Jimmy Carter took office.,
The best way to protect ideas is to copy them as much as possible. Protecting the "owner" of an idea is a different story. This involves restricting use of an idea only to people that have paid for the rights to the idea.
Do we need intellectual property laws? Probably, but what current intellectual property laws do is more like protecting young girls by ensuring they can only marry who pays their father the most money.
Nothing to do with what he claimed.
It seems homeschoolers either don't learn reading comprehension or don't learn statistics.
They're not so hot on punctuation either.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
My fist thought was that a tape deck is a cassette recorder.
You must be reely reely old.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
I think GP is referring to Common Core
That makes no sense, since CC does not specify any teaching method, only objectives.
Most people opposed to Common Core have little idea what it actually is. Democrats tend to oppose it because they oppose anything that may lead to accountability. Republicans tend to oppose it because, although it was their idea, Obama is now for it, so that means they have to be against it.
Besides, I doubt if there are many cashiers, competent or not, that were educated in arithmetic under Common Core, which has only been around for a few years.
Not when they give you back your quarter, then break open another roll of quarters to give you back three more.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.