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UK Wants Authority To Serve Warrants In U.S. (usatoday.com)
schwit1 writes with this news, as reported by USA Today: British and U.S. officials have been negotiating a plan that could allow British authorities to directly serve wiretap orders on U.S. communications companies in criminal and national security inquiries, U.S. officials confirmed Thursday. The talks are aimed at allowing British authorities access to a range of data, from interceptions of live communications to archived emails involving British suspects, according to the officials, who are not authorized to comment publicly. ... Under the proposed plan, British authorities would not have access to records of U.S. citizens if they emerged in the British investigations. Congressional approval would be required of any deal negotiated by the two countries.
British authorities would not have access to records of U.S. citizens if they emerged in the British investigations.
Riiiiight. They would never do that and hand it over to its Five Eyes brethren in the NSA. That's just crazy talk!
... the British also want to issue tax stamps on tea.
Another step in the erosion of the sovereignty of each country. Who needs the "one world government" when you can just pull crap like this, the TPP, etc?
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>> British and U.S. officials have been negotiating a plan...Congressional approval would be required of any deal negotiated
Do these US officials report to the executive branch? Then why isn't the headline something like, "Obama happy to bend over for British wiretapping of US citizens" or some-such? This stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum...
They already do: http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jun/21/gchq-cables-secret-world-communications-nsa
I guess this isn't the Hope and Change you voted for.
A separate official said that any agreement also would be designed to provide equal benefits for U.S. law enforcement and national security authorities in U.S. investigations.
"Such an agreement would ensure U.S. access to data stored in the United Kingdom in support of law enforcement, terrorism, and other transnational threat investigations and support our partners’ ability to investigate serious crime, as well as terrorism and other transnational threats on a reciprocal basis,'' that official said.
I hate all anonymous shitbags. Log in, you filthy bastards.
Oh, please, the US has been demanding this same kind of crap around the world since 2001.
This security stuff is now the keys to the kingdom, you can undermine sovereignty and violate laws in secret if you put on your fucking puppy dog face and says "because, security".
The US government is actively involved in doing the shit to the rest of the world, so don't look to us for any sympathy. Because an awful lot of Americans seem to think it's just fine when you do it to the rest of the world.
You're damned right this doesn't happen in a vacuum.
But if you think the US hasn't been demanding the ability to wiretap others, or just going ahead and doing it, you've been willfully ignorant to the last bunch of years.
Only now that it's happening to you, you're suddenly outraged.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
I thought our forefathers fought Britain to be free of them? WTF happened?
I remember reading somewhere we had this little disagreement in the 1770's with the State of Great Britain. Part of it had something to do with their overreach in legal processes.
Both nations are part of Interpol which was established for exactly this purpose. If they have a problem with the established organization then they need to reform that intermediary body for the betterment of all nations involved. That way it's not just the US you gain better cooperation with, but the other 188 countries as well. If you can't get the other member nations to agree with your proposals, then maybe your ideas aren't that great after all. This "alternative" of sidestepping established practices and micromanaging jurisdictional treaties between every god damn nation under the sun, just because you can't stand criticism from your peers, is nothing short of ridiculous.
Or maybe this has more to do with Interpol's charter forbidding their intervention in political matters #tinfoilhat.
Oh, you're upset because another country is claiming the rights to come here and fuck with our shit? The nerve of them!
But why not....we get to fly drones over other people's countries and drop bombs on them, a warrant seems like a kiss on the lips compared to that, right?
Now you know how they feel.
Look, if we can send FBI agents to any country in the world to arrest people, tell me why, exactly, other countries shouldn't be allowed to do the EXACT same thing here? Yeah, it just doesn't seem "right", does it?
Don't get me wrong- I'm against it. But you can't on one hand say it's okay for us to do it but not for the UK to do, now can you?
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
Only in that your corporate masters have agreed that it's better for them to undermine national sovereignty, so B.O.G.U.S! (bend over, grease up, suckers). Or considering how previous free trade deals have negatively impacted jobs and sovereignty BOHICA
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Leftists?
Ignorant fuck.
Watch this Heartland Institute video
The first response in this thread is "So it begins..." but no, so it does not begin.
The UK wants this (and that part is true) and USATODAY ("TV in print") is happy
to tell us. It's not a proposal. It's not a treaty. It's not a draft-anything. It's as much
of a NON-STARTER as you can get. It's USATODAY Friday Filler.
However, this is not something Congress can allow, the President can sign, and
the law be born. It is against the sovereign principles of a free nation, against
international law, and against the DoI and the COTUS.
It won't happen. Continuing to cry about it maybe happening is making more
noise than the deaf "oof" the nonstory would have made.
Thanks, Timothy! Slashdot's new regime continues to show its stellar qualities
of approving utter crapola for the front page!
Ehud
Yes, but you got uppity around 1812 and tried to take the remains of our North American empire away, so we sailed down the Hudson river and burned down the Whitehouse.
We settled on the original borders because we decided you were a lost cause to civilisation.
Wrong. Brittan decided to start attacking US merchant ships trading with France and Africa, and embargoed the US trading with the West Indies, They kidnapped enslaved US citizens by impressing them in to the British navy against their will. They occupied forts inside sovereign US territory in a violation the Jay treaty. Refused compensation for seized US merchant ships, and the British were funding attacks on US outpost in the west by natives. As for the invading Canada the US wasn't really interested in taking territory they sent a militia regiment the idea being that if they could take it they could trade it back to Brittin in exchange for backing down on everything else.
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Governments that follow their own laws are unknown.
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