Slashdot Mirror


Startup Uses Sensor Networks To Debug Science Experiments (xconomy.com)

gthuang88 writes: Environmental factors like temperature, humidity, or lighting often derail life science experiments. Now Elemental Machines, a startup from the founders of Misfit Wearables, is trying to help scientists debug experiments using distributed sensors and machine-learning software to detect anomalies. The product is in beta testing with academic labs and biotech companies. The goal is to help speed up things like biology research and drug development. Wiring up experiments is part of a broader effort to create "smart labs" that automate some of the scientific process.

14 of 25 comments (clear)

  1. Who needs a startup? by Sir+Holo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'm in the physical sciences, and even there am met with continuing reluctance of graduate students to take thorough lab notes in a lab book.

    It is not that hard to write, "It's humid today," or whatever. No matter how mundane the variable is, and no matter how fucking smart you think you are –with your imagined ability of total recall even a few months after the lab-time, everything is worth writing down.

    That way, when an anomalous result appears, they can search their notes for possible causes. Instead, they spend their time on FaceBook while the expensive instruments spit out Results – Results which all-too-often have inexplicable scatter in measurements of the variable-of-interest.

    BTW, I teach at a Global top-10 Sci-Eng University. The grad students' 'arrogance issues' seem to increase the further up the chain of Universities one goes. These kids resist direction like mad, and as a result, will never become world-class engineers or scientists.

    1. Re: Who needs a startup? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Think about your own words: could this be the result of somebody trying to make us all more and more stupid? If that happens on a world class Univ, think about down the list ones.
      I dont think this is an accident.

    2. Re:Who needs a startup? by ganv · · Score: 2

      Yes, they do need to record good notes. But the times are changing. There is huge potential in a cheap general purpose sensor array. Imagine a system that recorded temperature, humidity, room brightness, vibrations, maybe some chemical species concentrations, and maybe data from a set of special sensors in an apparatus. This is straight forward to do, but right now it requires someone to write custom software and integrate a variety of sensors. If there becomes a standard that just ran with very little customization, it could greatly decrease the amount of 'something happened to this experiment but I don't know what'. It is easy to say 'they should take better lab notes', but no one has ever been able to accurately record all the relevant conditions. It is an imaginary world we describe in which the conditions of the experiment are recorded in the lab notebook. In research, you always have factors that you don't yet know are important, and high quality cheap general purpose sensors could be a big benefit.

    3. Re:Who needs a startup? by John+Allsup · · Score: 2

      As Richard Horton put in his essay (What is medicine's 5-sigma), 'As one participant put it, “poor methods get results”'. There is pressure for 'measurable progress'. This has a number of nasty side effects. Things which do not lead directly to publishable results fall by the wayside, and things which serve no other purpose than to potentially explain desirable results as experimental errors, again, offer little which would result in 'measurable progress'. More and more, career scientists are being forced to chase jobs and funding, and to either produce what will yield future funding, or find a new career. Somebody who takes three times as long to produce less remarkable results, and at greater financial cost, will most likely struggle for work. Somebody who does enough to get published, and gets twice as much published in the same time, and costing less, will appear to be better to financial pen-pushers. This places a negative pressure on standards.

      --
      John_Chalisque
    4. Re:Who needs a startup? by mikael · · Score: 2

      "It's humid today" isn't exactly a scientific measurement. I'd expect some kind of electronic measurement with barometer, thermometer and hygrometer. You can get an all in one wireless system with automatic logging for less than £40. If you want to splurge out on a bit more (£130), you can get a wireless weather station that connects via the internet to a smartphone. There are probably others with more features and functionality, but it was the first I found.

      --
      Vintage computer adverts: http://www.vintageadbrowser.com/computers-and-software-ads
    5. Re:Who needs a startup? by RockDoctor · · Score: 1
      ... and he misses the point.

      Plainly, from the scenario, measuring the humidity wasn't part of the original experimental plan. The experiment is already running, and what the lecturer is saying is that (some of) his students don't conceive that there might be something worth recording that isn't in the experiment plan. Realising that your plans may be wrong is the first step. THEN you go on to "well, what can I do about this.

      You'd also be able to (probably) tell if there were a humidity effect by doing parameter-free ANOVA on your existing data, or attempting to back-estimate the humidity on other days of the experiment, in order to determine if there is an effect, if it's large enough to be detectable, and if it's large enough to be worth the £40 tool, the £130 tool, or simply taking a humidity report from the weather website.

      --
      Birds are not dinosaur descendants;birds are dinosaurs, for all useful meanings of "birds", "are" and "dinosaurs"
    6. Re:Who needs a startup? by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      You've never had to install sensor cabling, have you?

      --
      Birds are not dinosaur descendants;birds are dinosaurs, for all useful meanings of "birds", "are" and "dinosaurs"
    7. Re:Who needs a startup? by RockDoctor · · Score: 1
      [In voice of some millennials]

      That way, when an anomalous result appears,

      What is this thing you call an "anomalous result"? This can't happen to me. That's implying that I can't see an obvious problem before it happens, and that CANNOT be true.

      [end outraged voice]

      One of the things that you learn with experience is that you can actually be wrong. It's one of the things that a lot of people these days have to actually learn, because they haven't learned it in their pre-teen or teenage years.

      For the last several years I've been introducing "Bright Young Things", recently recruited to a major company to work in managing the acquisition of data from the Real World. They too, despite being bright people, have to learn that they don't know everything, and that the Real World has things going on that they don't know about, and don't understand.

      It's an education for them.

      --
      Birds are not dinosaur descendants;birds are dinosaurs, for all useful meanings of "birds", "are" and "dinosaurs"
    8. Re:Who needs a startup? by Sir+Holo · · Score: 1

      "It's humid today" isn't exactly a scientific measurement. I'd expect some kind of electronic measurement with barometer, thermometer and hygrometer. You can get an all in one wireless system with automatic logging for less than £40. If you want to splurge out on a bit more (£130), you can get a wireless weather station that connects via the internet to a smartphone. There are probably others with more features and functionality, but it was the first I found.

      You prove my point. Thanks!

      It's facile to record either qualitative info, or to auto-record quantitative data from your humidity-loggers. Either way, when confusing experimental results appear, neither of these resources is likely to be used.

      My point was to gripe about the lazy technique among many new grad students of late. It is a product of:
      * Our undergraduate programs automating chemistry-lab experiments to be 'push-button' easy.
      * Calculus homework consisting of typing a problem into a computer program, and printing the answer it gives.
      * Statistical Process Control (SPC) apparently is not taught to undergrads

      I don't have the time to teach them everything they should have learned as undergraduates. Grad school is supposed to be the next phase... Learning at any stage is hands-on and primary-sourced. Discussing how US Universities got here would be a long conversation. 20 years ago, Americans had a reputation overseas as being high-level technicians, and rightly so. The problem has gotten worse.

    9. Re: Who needs a startup? by Sir+Holo · · Score: 1

      Think about your own words: could this be the result of somebody trying to make us all more and more stupid? If that happens on a world class Univ, think about down the list ones.
      I dont think this is an accident.

      I said nothing of the sort.

      As a matter of fact, I've consistently found the focus on actually teaching at (your) "down the list" schools to be much stronger for undergraduates. Smaller classes. Professors actually teach their classes. And they grade students' homework. They will run the labs. With less-expensive equipment, students will have to learn lab-work by "Doing it the hard way," which is more effective.

      At a major Research University: More than 50% of classes are not taught by Professors, but by "Lecturers" – PhDs who take on that load so the tenure-track Profs. can bring in more grants – or post-docs who have not yet learned to speak clearly. Core classes can reach class-sizes well over 500 per section. An army of TAs ensures that students can't reach the Professor, who might schedule 'Office Hours' at a very inconvenient time. (I've done it – on advice.) (OK, but when I'm Advising grad students, I force them to "Do it the hard way," despite having software on my desk that could spit out an 'answer' in seconds.)

      The above is a broad-brush generalization, but holds true often enough. It mostly depends on whether a College or University cares about more than just money and football. Or both. Variation among Departments and Schools is a factor, too.

      So, students must research and also visit potential schools before committing. Caveat emptor!

    10. Re:Who needs a startup? by Sir+Holo · · Score: 1

      CORRECTION

      20 years ago, American PhDs had a reputation overseas as being high-level technicians, and rightly so. The problem has gotten worse.

  2. Re:IF you Need this, then Experimental Design FAIL by KermodeBear · · Score: 2

    While true, this kind of effort can help scientists discover things that they have overlooked.

    I know that it is difficult to believe, but scientists are generally human and they're not omniscient. Their experiments often have some kind of problem.

    --
    Love sees no species.
  3. About time... by virtualXTC · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This sort of thing has always been available for pharmaceutical manufacturing, but has been long overlooked on the research side. I've been at a few science research based engineering companies that collect this kind of data already, but don't do anything to analyse it unless something catastrophic happens. A software tool that could enable visualization of this data across experiments will extremely valuable as we remove technician to technician variation (via robotics) and a synthetic biology becomes more common place, and could prove as invaluable as well plate edge effect analysis already included in major bio-analysis software packages such as spotfire.

  4. Benefits seem pretty contrived by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 1

    I read TFA and it struck me that this is the invention of salesmen who are working very hard to find a rationale for their product. The two examples they came up with, where the benefits of their system are supposed to be maximally evident, are just not convincing. In the case of the mice who are kept awake at night: Wouldn't the test group and the control group of mice both be equally affected by the noise? If the thing being tested for really was making a difference, shouldn't that difference still be visible? This sounds an awful lot like: We went into the experiment knowing what results we wanted, and we twiddled knobs and kept discarding "bad" data under the thinnest pretenses, until we finally got them. And that's not how you do science.

    When it comes to the researchers whose polymer was being degraded by UV photons from normal daylight... I'm sorry, they just don't sound very smart. I have to wonder if their situation would have improved if they had installed this monitoring system. What would it have told them? "Your experiment is occurring at room temperature, earth gravity, normal daylight, air of terrestrial composition, yadda yadda." Are the salesmen suggesting that these bumbling scientists would have looked at all this "data", slapped their foreheads and yelled: BY GOD, WE JUST LEARNED THAT OUR EXPERIMENT IS OCCURRING IN NORMAL DAYLIGHT!