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India Blocks Facebook's Free Basics Internet Service (thestack.com)

An anonymous reader writes: India's leading telecom regulator, TRAI (Telecom Regulatory Authority of India), has today voted against differential pricing, ruling with immediate effect that all data prices must be equal, and that companies cannot offer cheaper rates than others for certain content. The call is a significant blow to Facebook's Free Basics (previously Internet.org) initiative and Airtel Zero – projects which work to make internet access more accessible by providing a free range of "basic" services. The watchdog confirmed that providers would no longer be able to charge for data based on discriminatory tariffs but instead that pricing must be "content agnostic." It added that fines of Rs. 50,000 – 50 Lakh would be enforced should the regulations be violated.

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  1. Alternate title by stoborrobots · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Alternate title: "India insists on network neutrality"

    1. Re:Alternate title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      No they insist on equal pricing. They don't care if the provider is net neutral, just that they don't compete with them.

      What they actually insists on (for those not RTFA) is the second link in the summary -- pricing must be "content agnostic". If you offer Internet connectivity you can't price data traffic going to Facebook lower than what you price data traffic going to YouTube or whatever. That is indeed a core net neutrality issue, because network providers could otherwise easily use differentiated pricing and zero-rating as an unfair advantage for some internet services over others. A few bundling deals and the market would be locked in for anyone wanting to challenge the established Internet services.

    2. Re:Alternate title by houghi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      1) This is not directed at the poor. This is directed at others who are already able to pay. This has been posted and explained several times by people living in the country.
      2) The downside is that it is not a complete free Internet service. Other sited are blocked. They are not a provider.

      As some sites are blocked, there is no net neutrality. Now if they were to open everything and become a true free provider (with all the rules that come with it) that would be something else. This is not about what price they charge; but by what rules they play and they do not play by the provder rules, yet they clai, they are.

      A rose by any other name is still a rose. Calling a tulip a rose does not make it a rose.

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  2. Re:Corruption at every level by danbob999 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is Net Neutrality, like it or not.
    They are not forbidden to offer Internet for free. If they want to give 200MB/month to everyone for free, it's fine. People will be free to use it for whatever they want however, not just Facebook. There is no technical reason why an ISP could offer free Facebook but not a small, neutral, amount of data.

  3. This is a good decision. period. by dell623 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That is the kind of condescending attitude that people like Mark Zuckerberg have that really pisses off people know who anything about internet access in India. That whole 'let them eat stale bread for free' thing.

    The choice between Zuckerberg curated internet and no internet is a made up, false dichotomy. Whatever else you may say or hate about Google, I much much prefer their philosophy of fast internet is good for Google and therefore they focus on improving access to ALL of the internet.

    For anyone who has been to a train station in India for example, this is an absolute godsend: http://indianexpress.com/artic...

    And a huge number of poorer Indians use trains - we are talking millions of people every day if they cover the 100 largest stations with adequate bandwidth.

    The biggest barrier to internet access in India is not just the cost. And the reason for the high cost is not just the fact that people are poor - the licensing regime and restricted spectrum are far bigger factors than price.

    This has been big news in India and most opinion was strongly against Facebook. You can read some of the arguments here: http://blogs.timesofindia.indi...

    Being poor or poorer doesn't universally bestow some sort of nobility or sense of purpose or a special hunger for knowledge. Most people in the third world use the internet for what the developed world does - games and pointless social media and sharing garbage. That is exactly what the free 'tablets' that a misguided minister subsidized in India a few years ago were mostly used for.

    Provide internet access in public spaces, and in schools and universities Mr. Zuckerberg if you really give a shit.

  4. Re:Corruption by dell623 · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can know by wanting to know - this isn't China we are discussing.

    There was a massive public campaign: https://www.savetheinternet.in...

    The founders of hundreds of Indian startups signed a letter calling for net neutrality.

    The regulatory authority TRAI received 2.4 million public submissions, mostly favouring net neutrality.

    India is a corrupt country but don't get so hung up on stereotypes.

    Also, unlike China, Facebook is the dominant social network in India as much as it is everywhere else. There are no local alternatives - most internet users would be comfortable enough with English to just use Facebook and multi language support takes care of the rest. What's app is huge as you would expect. So there is no question of keeping Facebook out. Just the Zuckernet - India doesn't want the Zuckernet.

    I cannot believe an audience like Slashdot does not get the implications of something like this. Imagine if the internet had been considered too expensive for poorer countries and the only 'internet' that reached poorer countries was a curated government managed internet in the guise of making it cheap. Why does India need the real internet at all, they can't afford it anyway, just like they shouldn't be flying rockets and shit. Let's switch the whole country to free Zuckernet.