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Pwn2Own 2016 Won't Attack Firefox (Because It's Too Easy) (eweek.com)

darthcamaro writes: For the last decade, the Pwn2own hacking competition has pitted the world's best hackers against web browsers to try and find zero-day vulnerabilities in a live event. The contest, which is sponsored by HPE and TrendMicro this year, is offering over half a million dollars in prize money, but for the first time, not a penny of that will directed to Mozilla Firefox. While Microsoft Edge, Google Chrome and Apple Safari are targets, Firefox isn't because it's apparently too easy and not keeping up with modern security: "'We wanted to focus on the browsers that have made serious security improvements in the last year,' Brian Gorenc, manager of Vulnerability Research at HPE said."

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  1. Re:Hey hey hey... by timritzer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Except for the fact that last year it was the most insecure! http://www.extremetech.com/com... So, least secure last year, plus the statement "We wanted to focus on the browsers that have made serious security improvements in the last year" clearly indicates they think it is not worth the effort due to the insecure nature of the browser.

  2. Re:This is a big bitchslap to Mozilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Google Chrome does not run every tab in a separate process. It's a little more complicated than that. AFAICT from messing around, it creates a process per visited domain.

  3. Re:Wait a mintue by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative
    The former. All modern browsers except Firefox have decomposed their browser into multiple processes, so that a compromise from one site will only gain control over an unprivileged (i.e. isolated from other stuff the user cares about) process. They also run plugins in separate processes and have fairly narrow communication paths between them. Firefox is still a massive monolithic process, including all add-ons, plugins, and so on.

    This basically means that you just need one arbitrary code execution vulnerability in Firefox and it's game over. In contrast, if you have the same in Chrome, Edge, or Safari, then it's just the first step - you now have an environment where you can run arbitrary exploit code, but you can't make (most) system calls and you have to find another exploit to escape from the sandbox. Typical Chrome compromises are the result of chaining half a dozen vulnerabilities together.

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  4. Re: Then what's the point? by dj245 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Again, though, that misses the point. You offer a prize to hack an insecure browser as a means of shaming the browser's developer. That's how it worked, and more to the point, that's why it worked. Have the Pwn2Own folks perhaps lost sight of that original purpose?

    Obviously Firefox wasn't shamed last year, or they would have tried to improve security. Instead, they made a bunch of useless UI changes, removed features, etc. They didn't get the message. Spending large amounts of money to send them the same message again would be a wasted effort. By ignoring them this year, Pwn2Own is sending an even stronger message that Firefox is a browser to be avoided. And it doesn't cost them any prize money to send that message.

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  5. Re:This is a big bitchslap to Mozilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    ScriptBlock on Chrome does the same thing, or am I missing something vital?

    NoScript does quite a bit more than just basic script blocking.

  6. Re:what? by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 1, Informative

    to add to my above, those who are in charge of firefox no longer interested making its core product better and secure. it is interested market and marketing, bowing to establishment ideology and legalese, etc etc

    And making sure that it's not run by some guy who holds the same beliefs on gay marriage as Hillary and Obama did a couple of years ago.