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Ask Slashdot: Do You Still Have a Pager? Do You Find It Useful?

New submitter Chance Callahan writes: I am starting a business, helping a friend with his own startup, and volunteering regularly with a major political campaign (#feelthebern). One thing I have noticed is that my phone likes to die at the most inconvenient times and leaves me out of touch with people. With the business I'm starting requiring clients to be able to get ahold me quickly, I have been seriously considering getting a two-way pager. It's much easier swap out a AA battery once a month then to worry "will client X be able to get ahold me in the event of an emergency?" So, Slashdot, the million dollar question is, in the age of cell phones, do you have a pager? Do you still find it useful? Do any other "dead-tech" tools still play a big role for your communications? For example, fax machines are still big in Japan, and a lot of people keep landlines, too.

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  1. Extra battery? by pz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why not buy one of those easy-to-find extra battery USB-charger things and carry that with you instead?

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    1. Re:Extra battery? by Phreakiture · · Score: 3, Informative

      I would like to suggest one better: If your phone is one that allows you to remove the batter (i.e. not an Apple or a OnePlus or a few others), just get a spare battery of the type that the phone takes. When your phone dies, reach into your pocket, pull out the spare battery, and switch it for the one that is in the phone. It's instant, efficient, and doesn't require you to juggle your phone plus another box for whatever length of time it takes your phone to charge.

      Additionally (and this is good for all phones), if you are traveling much by car, get a cigarette-lighter charger for your phone. Plug it in whenever you are in your car.

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  2. Yes considering how poor cell coverage is! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Where I work in downtown Seattle, cell coverage doesn't work at all below ground or in our office building if you're not near a window. We have to still use pagers.

    1. Re: Yes considering how poor cell coverage is! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This. Cellphones, like wireless Ethernet, use frequencies that are just too high to penetrate. I think our pager system is 26MHz, and works even in the bottom of our parking garage.

    2. Re: Yes considering how poor cell coverage is! by omnichad · · Score: 5, Funny

      It won't even penetrate our cube walls

      You're supposed to drill through the wall before you try to run Ethernet through it.

  3. Re:Seriously?? by Brett+Buck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A phone cannot be carried into a secure area. A (one-way) pager can.

  4. Why not SMS instead? by dejanc · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can get cheap dumb phones with long battery life, or you can even get one with AA batteries (like SpareOne). That will give you both voice and text functionality and spare you the embarrassment of asking someone to page you (at least I would feel awkward mentioning pagers to my clients).

    Also, you could setup a simple email to SMS gateway, so you can get a text message whenever somebody emails emergency@yourbusiness.com.

    In a nutshell, your phone battery will drain quickly only if you keep using it as a smart phone, i.e. using data, wifi, bluetooth, having your screen on all the time, etc. If you keep a dedicated mobile phone for emergencies only and use it primarily for texting, you will have all the benefits of a pager while remaining in the 21st century.

    You can push a dumb phone battery to a full week if you do it right, and to me at least, charging a phone over weekend or in the car is easier and cheaper then swapping batteries.

    1. Re:Why not SMS instead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      SMS can take hours to deliver messages in a downtown area. I work for a data center, and I typically receive an email and can fix the problem before I even get the SMS alert. Nothing beats a pager when it comes to reliability and speed of delivery.

  5. Re:What's wrong with your cell phone? by mikael_j · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not sure how you manage to have a phone with less than a half day of life.

    My guess is that the OP is like a former boss of mine who would complain constantly about the shitty battery life of new phones yet would never charge his phone until it shut itself off because the battery ran low.

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  6. Gives you time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm on call from time to time (one week a month, for a full 7 days) and I *LOVE* the fact that a Pager at 3AM at least gives me a bit of time to wake-up and go to the toilet compared to being called directly and dump on a phone bridge with 10 other people wanting an answer *RIGHT NOW*.

    I also have shitty Cell reception where I live, but Pager reception is A-1

  7. Emergency Services by ronaldbeal · · Score: 5, Informative

    Many emergency services such as fire departments, Offices of emergency management, etc still use RF pagers. The system is part of or tied in with the dispatch system. By removing third parties in the communication signal chain, the pager systems provide latency free, and high availability for dispatch systems. They also work well for emergency services because they are geographically limited by the pager transmission antenna coverage. which usually coincides with the emergency services coverage area. For the OP's situation there are usually two options: a local RF network, or satellite pager systems. The local networks may or may not have better coverage, just depends on your local pager provider. Sat pagers tend to have nationwide coverage, but reception is limited by access to the sky. Those choices may or may not be suitable for your needs. RB

  8. Re:why not charge your phone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    He's a Bernie supporter. He's holding out for free energy.

  9. Re:Who still uses pagers? by dmr001 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I'm a doctor, we still use pagers, and they suck. On the plus side, an AA battery lasts a month, and reception is not usually an issue. On the minus side, no one seems to be making pagers anymore, so we get reconditioned units. I long for my old indestructible Motorola pager. Buttons get jammed and latches fall off the "new" ones, the display is less than reliable, and I can customize the beeping to grating, annoying, and nerve-wracking.

    We are beginning to investigate smartphone based solutions, which, in order to be compliant with US privacy regulations have expensive recurring monthly charges, and will involve installing and maintaining microcells in our hospitals.

  10. Pagers shared in work group for emergency contact by Dzimas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One of my friends carries a pager when he's on call for work (a municipality, and he'd most likely be contacted about a toxic spill). He just clips it to his belt and forgets about it.

    The pager has several advantages over a phone. The most critical is that it's a shared device that gets passed between the on-call staff. That means there's no risk of someone forgetting their phone at home, running out of battery or having an incorrect number listed on the staff contact form. Emergency Services has a single contact number that should always work.

  11. Re:Who still uses pagers? by sribe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why doesn't someone developing medical devices see this as a market and develop a pager for the medical industry if pagers are no longer being made?

    It's not the pagers. It's the paging systems. The market has dropped greatly, so maintaining transmitter towers, repeaters, the whole system, is a hard business to be in. Reliability is exactly why some large medical systems run their own metro-wide paging systems.

  12. Re:Seriously?? by FaxeTheCat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    An extra cheap non.smar phone easily lasts a week on a charge.

  13. Re:Seriously?? by Hizonner · · Score: 3, Informative
    1. Battery life is what started this. Battery life on pagers is better than battery life on any phone, even the simplest. And replacement batteries are everywhere.
    2. Coverage is better inside buildings and in other hard to reach places. Many posters mentioned this before you posted.
    3. Somebody already replied to you about "secure areas".
    4. One-way pagers, at least, don't track or report your location; the page is just broadcast over the whole coverage area.
    5. Pagers can be physically smaller than any phone.
    6. Somebody further down mentioned the reliability advantages of being on a totally separate network from the cell network. You CAN have both.
    7. Pager software is simpler and therefore at least possibly more secure, even than the simplest phones.
    8. Pager hardware is slightly cheaper, which may matter if you expect you might break it.