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Hollywood Escalates "DVD Ripping" Case To International Incident (torrentfreak.com)

A group of Hollywood studios and technology partners have asked the U.S. Government to assist in solving a long-running court battle against the Antique based software company SlySoft. Despite an earlier conviction SlySoft continues to offer its DVD and BluRay ripping tools. To progress the matter, rightsholders have asked the U.S. to place Antigua on the Priority Watch List. "Circumvention through programs such as SlySoft's AnyDVD HD is a source for widespread, large-scale and commercial copyright infringement by users located in the United States, as well as Antigua & Barbuda, and many other countries," AACS writes (pdf).

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  1. Jurisdiction by ZorinLynx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Slysoft is not in US jurisdiction, so it doesn't have to follow US law. Full stop.

    They should tell Hollywood to get bent. Piracy is going to happen regardless of what they do; this is money wasted anyway.

    1. Re:Jurisdiction by davester666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Antigua is permitting this to happen LEGALLY, because quite some time ago, the US lost a ruling by the WTO that they were improperly blocking betting and gambling services in Antigua. http://www.ip-watch.org/2014/04/26/antigua-questions-efficacy-of-wto-dispute-system-over-ip-related-case/

      The US does not wish to follow the WTO ruling, so Antigua is permitted to do this.

      Hollywood knows this.

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    2. Re:Jurisdiction by bigfinger76 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Animated 'corner ads' have been creeping in for the last few years. They certainly are distracting, and consuming more screen real estate as time goes by.

    3. Re:Jurisdiction by Gription · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And thanks to Snowden we now know how the US is strong arming (read as extorting) countries around the world to bow down to the Hollywood lobby.

      But on the bright side of this story:
      Hollywood has basically let all of us know that this software works really good for ripping movies. Thanks for the well advertised endorsement!

  2. Antigua and Barbuda are in the right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, the Hollywood studios don't even have the law on their side in this case.
    What Slysoft is doing is actually legal under WTO rules because the US was found
    to be in violation regarding offshore internet gambling. The WTO ruled that Antigua and
    Barbuda are legally entitled to ignore US copyright (to the value of the judgement) as a
    result. What the US government has been doing in regard to this is disgusting frankly.
    They have threatened to retaliate against Antigua and Barbuda should they choose to
    actively exercise this right, even though the ruling went against them. Funny how when
    the ruling goes for the US the other country is obligated to follow it, but when it goes
    against them it doesnt. Arrogant doesnt begin to describe this behaviour.

    https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/dispu_e/cases_e/ds285_e.htm

  3. Glorious by Todd+Knarr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    @boggle. I use that software a lot simply to get rid of the forced previews and the like so I can sit down to watch a movie and watch the bloody movie, which ought to tell the MPAA and company something right there. The biggest advocate of piracy right now is the MPAA itself, as they constantly and vocally equate simply watching a movie you've purchased legally with piracy.

  4. Re:Do People Still Watch DVDs? by BLKMGK · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Folks that want higher quality? That want the extras? Folks with data caps? Folks that want stuff after the streaming service drops it? Folks don't want to be tracked or pay a monthly fee?

    How long a list you need?

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  5. Re:Good, finally some common sense in copyright la by tinkerghost · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not being ignored, nor is it being stolen. A company makes software that allows people to do format shifting. In the US, format shifting is legal under the DMCA. What's not legal is selling the software to do it.

    Antigua does not have such an obvious contradiction in their legal system. The software is legal where it is produced, it is legal to use for it's intended purpose. Hollywood doesn't like that because they have to actually find and sue people who are actually infringing on their works rather than just banning a technology. They also don't like it because if there is software available to perform format shifting, you (as a consumer) aren't forced to buy a digital copy if you've already bought a DVD.

    Just because the US entertainment industry would like the entire world to drop and suck, doesn't mean that the wold's legal system should comply.

  6. Re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic by Ritz_Just_Ritz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The various recording studios just don't get it. If I'm going to shell out $$$ for a movie, I'm going to consume it in the format that suits me. I also don't want to be force fed adverts for other BS they'd like to sell me. Nor do I want to sit through the obligatory, "you'll go to hell if you copy this" FBI nuisance screens and other nonsense that you cannot skip on the disc before watching the content that I paid for. I don't feel the least bit guilty about ripping a disc solely to remove adverts/warnings and shift it to whatever medium I want to use to watch it.

    All that said, I find myself increasingly reluctant to even bother. The content quality is trending down and I don't have the time I once did to jump through the hoops. Their loss.

  7. Re:Do People Still Watch DVDs? by DrXym · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The main disadvantage is when you "buy" your movie on Amazon you've bought a license to stream the movie under Amazon's terms and conditions, not the actual movie. You can't sell your license, you can't loan it, you can't donate it, you can't transfer it to another streaming service, you can't watch on devices not blessed with their software, you can't watch with your favourite player app. If Amazon feel like it you might be denied access to the movie (e.g. TOS violation) or because of your location. And of course you'll get a lower quality movie with no extras.

    If the price were considerably lower to offset these disadvantages then it might be worth buying in this way. But digital movies are priced almost the same as their physical counterparts. I really don't understand why anybody buys media (books, music, movies, TV shows) through a streaming service - not from Amazon, Apple, Google, Microsoft, Sony or anyone else's. And of course there's the whole free download thing where you can grab a high quality product which is not tied to any store.

    Subscribing to a streaming service or renting is another matter entirely. There are no issues like transferability, or ownership. If Amazon Prime's streaming service sucks then you can just cancel and there is no expectation of retaining access to your collection.