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What Bell Labs Was Like C.1967 (theguardian.com)

New submitter niittyniemi writes: There's a rather interesting photo-gallery over at The Guardian which gives an indication of what life was like at Bell Labs c.1967. This was the year that Dennis Ritchie joined Bell Labs and went on to produce a body of work which has been pretty much unrivaled in its influence on the modern computing landscape, even some 50 years later. What's noticeable about the pictures, is that they are of woman. I don't think this is a result of the photographer just photographing "eye candy." I think it's because he was surrounded by women, whom from his comments he very much respected and hence photographed. In those times, wrangling with a computer was very much seen as "clerical work" and therefore the domain of woman. This can be seen as far back as Bletchley Park and before that Ada Lovelace. Yet 50 years later, the IT industry has turned full-circle. Look at any IT company and the percentage of women doing software development or similar is woeful. Why and how has this happened? Discuss.

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  1. Re:Easy by jenningsthecat · · Score: 4, Informative

    It turns out software development is engineering, not clerical work.

    At least some of what was going on there was hardware work. The first picture shows a woman holding a 'scope probe, connected to an advanced, (for its time). Tektronix oscilloscope. And if she used the equipment for more than just that photo op, then her role was considerably more than clerical in nature.

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  2. Re:Easy by Zaelath · · Score: 3, Informative

    She's the exception to the rule in that gallery though... Not that there's any reason women can't be engineers (they're usually better than us; more focus, less stupid errors).

  3. Wrong bell labs by sdxxx · · Score: 5, Informative

    Dennis Ritchie worked at the Murray Hill, NJ campus, which is also where the transistor was invented, etc. These photos are from some Oakland, CA location.

  4. Bell labs "failed" by making money. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 5, Informative

    bell labs existed because a monopoly ran the telephone system do you think thats a good idea... discuss ?

    Bell Labs existed to spend money - provided it was on research that had SOME plausible connection to improving the state of the art of telephony.

    This was because, as part of the legislative deal that gave Bell a near-monopoly on telephony, they were allowed to set their rates to return a regulated percentage on their expenses, and those expenses included such research.

    Suppose this rate was 6%:
      1. Spend a hundred million dollars researching, designing, and delivering telephone service.
      2. Set the phone rates so you collect 106 million dollars.
      3. Deliver the phone service and collect the money.
      4. Profit! (six million dollars of it).

    Spend more on research, raise the rates, make more profit. So the incentive is to shoehorn in as much basic research as you can possibly manage to SOMEHOW connect to telephony and spend as much as you can on it. So spending money in this profitable way is what Bell Labs was intended to do.

    But they get to (were REQUIRED to) license their inventions. And the money from these licenses counts against their costs. From year one they made more on licensing inventions than they spent on research. So they were a "failure" at their original purpose, but the poster child that proved basic research was a money-maker, big time, even though you didn't know in advance HOW you'd end up making money off it.

    This continued through the Bell breakup, the spinout as Lucent technologies, and didn't get broken until about the new millenium, when management pulled a standard loot-the-company stunt: improving the bottom line (and their bonuses and options) by cutting off research that wouldn't pay off until a few years down the road (when they're gone, their money is safe, and their successors get to take the blame when the house of cards collapses.) A few years back some of the old hands were brought back to revive the near-corpse, and it seems to be on the mend.

    Xerox PARC's opportunity to create wonders out of basic research was also enabled by an accounting pathology - though of a much different sort.

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  5. Re:Easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    It turns out software development is engineering, not clerical work.

    At least some of what was going on there was hardware work. The first picture shows a woman holding a 'scope probe, connected to an advanced, (for its time). Tektronix oscilloscope. And if she used the equipment for more than just that photo op, then her role was considerably more than clerical in nature.

    Yes, but if you read the captions, most of them were actually clerical workers, keypunch operators, or tape handlers, as the OP said.

  6. Re:we don't need tape librarians anymore by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 4, Informative

    Since you weren't around at the time, allow me to inform you that the clothes the women are wearing represent very typical office attire ca. 1965-75.

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  7. Re:we don't need tape librarians anymore by DerekLyons · · Score: 5, Informative

    And the statement these women aren't eye candy is undercut by the fact that they are (almost) all dressed up

    The custom of the day was that you dressed up for work, men and women. You didn't go slouching into the office in jeans and a t-shirt.