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Chief CETA Negotiator Says Treaty "Virtually Complete" (freezenet.ca)

Dangerous_Minds writes: Steve Verheul, chief negotiator of the Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA), is saying that the agreement is "virtually complete." He also says that translated versions are to be completed by May and that the agreement is likely to be implemented in 2017. CETA contains provisions that would compel countries to implement Internet censorship through site blocking, anti-circumvention laws as seen in the US, and compel border security to seize digital storage devices (i.e. cell phones) at the border for the purpose of looking for copyright infringement.

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  1. Re:And how exactly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Are we supposed to prevent this from going through? "calling our representatives" certainly does not seem to help.

    This is no rethorical complaint: *HOW* do we fight this? What can be done, specifically, to make those happily pushing this through *STOP*?

    Legal methods and comments about their ethics and morality (or complete perversions thereof) certainly don't work... So what about stooping to their level? What can we do to make this disappear decisively?

    Vote Sanders. He's not perfect, but he's the closest option in the US to a candidate who favors the people over the special interests.

  2. remember Benito by harvey+the+nerd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    These fascists need the Benito treatment.

  3. Re:And how exactly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you're in the US, vote Sanders, because it applies to other treaties and because the US strongly supports pro-copyright treaties because of its entertainment industry.

    The principle is the same if you're elsewhere, including in a country directly affected. Find the candidates (or better yet, advocacy groups) who most actively support the cause you're interested in. There's a reason people give to the EFF.

  4. Re:And how exactly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sanders is a US candidate, and there was just recently an election in Canada. Your advice... isn't.

    Get them strip-searched and swatted a few times a month at least; after all, they "have nothing to hide" as they're so adamant in informing us, and if we don't know the contents of their urethra and smartphone's intestines on a regular basis, then the terrorists have won.

    Force-feed them their own medicine until they choke.

  5. Seizing Cell Phones? by mentil · · Score: 4, Insightful

    compel border security to seize digital storage devices (i.e. cell phones) at the border for the purpose of looking for copyright infringement

    How exactly is that going to work? Everyone with a laptop holds up the line for 30 minutes while their hard drive gets imaged? What if it's encrypted? What do they do about devices with dead batteries? The poorly-trained Little Hitlers in customs aren't going to know how to operate the variety of digital devices they'll encounter.

    Ok let's say they just seize everything and send it off to a central location for processing, and then ship it to wherever the traveler is staying when they're done. How are they going to judge if a file is infringing copyright, and not a fair-use format-shift? Hash video files and compare to known scene releases? Good luck doing anything similar for music; there are legit ways of ripping CDs that produce identical files every time, the same encoding software will give these perfect rips an identical hash for everyone who goes through the process; some music stores use unwatermarked files, everyone gets the same copy. This is ignoring the issue of locked phones.

    If by 'seizing digital storage devices' they mean 'seizing spindles of burned discs coming from China with movie titles Sharpied on them' then I could see this making sense.

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  6. Re:And how exactly by Khyber · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "What can we do to make this disappear decisively?"

    Cripple the internet to the point that global economy can no longer happen, and force a global economic collapse.

    In other words, all you network engineers and people running the backbones need to step up and protest.

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  7. Re:And how exactly by mukinrestak · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hey, that's not fair! There's a whole other party full of fascists and authoritarians to choose from too!

  8. Re:Nope by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't trust that this is an accurate representation of what the treaty actually says

    I'm sorry, but what?

    Have you missed the part where every treaty the US is involved in pushes corporate interests because the US government is in the back pocket of the copyright cartel?

    The US lets the copyright lobby write the text of laws and treaties, and does what they're told. The US government is on the fucking payroll ... and I really wish I was exaggerating.

    The US wouldn't be negotiating a treaty which didn't push draconian copyright measures. That's kind of what they do these days.

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