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Big Health Benefits To Small Weight Loss (nytimes.com)
schwit1 writes: Obese individuals who lose as little as 5 percent of their body weight can improve their metabolic function and reduce the risk of developing Type 2 diabetes and heart disease, a new study has found. Many current treatment guidelines urge patients to lose between 5% and 10% of their body weight in order to experience health benefits, but the recommendations were based on earlier studies that didn't distinguish between participants who lost only 5 percent of their weight and those who lost more.
Anything is better than nothing. Or, in this case, a little too much is better than a lot too much.
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My assessment:
American males go off the cliff at around 40. They get wrapped in the middle-aged triad: Bald, obese, and glasses (you can at least use Rogaine/Propecia/hair dye and use contacts).
Korean women. They look good until around 50 or so, then go right off the cliff. I'm not sure what to do about this.
Russian women: A babushka woman at 30. Not sure what to do about this, either. They get that diabetic body frame that I don't think there's any fix for, either.
Lay off the Mt. Dew and Hot Pockets
Rub a nut, burn 5 calories.
The participants lost 5% of their body weight but what type of weight that they lost was not specified. Right at the start I am dubious here..
So you are telling me that if I lost 5% of my body weight from a gangrenous leg amputation, I am less likely to develop diabetes? See the problem?
Capcha is "insular" is that some kind of joke?
5 of every 100 is 30. Somehow, I don't think that's going to matter. Now to call Little Caesar's for a half-dozen bacon-wrapped, Chicago-style deep-dish pizza with double cheese and pepperoni and a litre of Diet Pepsi.
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In 1999 I had a minor heart attack. Docs put me on cholesterol meds and beta blockers. This was the beginning of the end. Statins caused a lot of problems, cramps, constipation and likely memory loss to name a few. The beta blockers assured me I would stay in good shape through exercise because I could not get my heart rate up to aerobic levels. I worked in construction and this would cost me a couple of jobs over time as I could not do the work. I quit both statins and beta-blockers in 2008-9. But by this time I was up 30lbs and taking high blood pressure meds.
Fast forward. I retired and moved to Thailand. At age 60 I lost the 30 lbs, stopped taking high blood pressure meds and now I'm pretty damn happy living a relatively stress free life and walk most everywhere I go. 5 miles or so a day. Fresh food. The chicken I'm are eating was killed yesterday not 2 weeks ago. The mango was picked yesterday, not 1 week ago.
Best of all.... I have morning erections again.
Any type of exercise which adds to your list of things to do during the day will eventually get dropped as a low priority. By removing a drive or public transport from your routine you make room for something which can make you healthier.
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Okay! I'm down to 100 lbs!
Need to lose 5%! I'll get healthier!
*PUKE*
Okay! I'm down to 95 lbs!
Need to lose 5%! I'll get even healthier!
*PUKE!*
Hey! Is that my spleen?
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Why is Slashdot running such a fat-shaming article? Being fat is not unhealthy despite what the current male dominated medical science field says.
But, but... muh healthy at every size! *triggered*
Does somebody know how is obesity defined? Optimal BMI is just median in country population and therefore is not usable.
You would think that insurance companies would be begging if not bribing people to loose weight. I have several friends who have tried to get insurance to help pay for their weight loss surgery to no avail. One is over 200# above his healthy BMI. The cost savings of that surgery should be obvious. Can anyone explain why they won't help out?
>Obese individuals who lose as little as 5 percent of their body weight can improve their metabolic function
Obese individuals who improve their metabolic function lose as little as 5 percent of their body weight.
There, fixed that for you, maybe.
The world of nutrition research is full of the elementary school statistical error of assuming the arrow of causality to be one way when it's actually the other.
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So far so good for me -- fasting blood sugar in the normal range and weight is slowly but surely coming off. Sleep apnea might also be getting better. Read more at vinnietortorich.com.
But what if I've already lost 5 to 10% of my body weight?
Another news related only to the US citizens. Give me a break.
Possibly because surgery only helps short-term. To keep slim, you need lifestyle changes and with lifestyle changes surgery is usually not beneficial. The trouble is that people still want to breakfast with beer and chips, have a second breakfast of crisps, lunch with cake and coke, have chocolate cookies with coke in the afternoon, eat three plates at dinner, and stuff themselves with who knows what in the evening, all the while doing absolutely nothing to expend energy.
You don't get 100 kg overweight if your lifestyle is healthy; just supporting all that body mass burns more than you'd consume.
Not all forms of weight loss are equal. Bariatric surgery is really risky, and not nearly as effective as actually changing behavior.
Seriously, a zero carb high protein diet, you find you skip meals because you're too full to eat and the weight just drops away.
You can't change a nerd's behavior. I vote for barbaric surgery: remove their heads!
but the reduction in fructose intake, which of course happens as a consequence of changing your diet to one with less fructose, and less sugars in general.
they don't owe anything - that's a different insurance...
Probably because they've "crunched the numbers" and come to the conclusion that although money will be saved (by them) over time if they pay for weight loss surgery, even more money will be saved (by them) if they don't pay for it because a lot of those people will die faster.
It's not profitable for them to make more people healthier now, only to have those people live to old age and get senility, Alzheimer's, arthritis (knee replacements, you know), etc.
Wow. .. You sure are clueless about fat people. I'm 360# right now, my normal day starts at 1am, out the door with no breakfast by 2am. At work by 3am with either a cup of coffee or tea depending on where I feel like stopping. By 6am, I have a break and typically grab another coffee or two and muffin egg sandwich. I drink water after that coffee is gone and eat nothing else until rought 4 pm. Between 4pm and 6pm, I grab two unsweetened teas and a double quarter pounder from McDonald's on the way home depending on traffic. Every once in a while i grab a fish sandwich too.
I do that 5 days a week and on weekends I usually skip breakfast and eat a largish salad for lunch. Dinner around 6pm and it is either another double quarter pounder or a couple slices of pizza. I rarely drink sweetened drinks. Gave up on alcohol outside special occasions and cakes or other similar foods come only the same.
If you really think all fat people eat the way you mentioned, You are highly confused.
Another news related only to the US citizens. Give me a break.
Get a clue.
Slashdot is a US site, created by US nerds to talk about things of interest to them, and initially populated primarily by US nerds as well.
If you come to the US, even electronically, you shouldn't be surprised to hear a lot of things interesting more to US people than to people from wherever you came from.
Attendance is voluntary. If enough of the stories are also interesting to you, fine. But don't expect the rest of the population to stop talking about things interesting to THEM, just because YOU'RE now here.
If you're bored, be an adult and skip the article, like the rest of us do for things that bore US.
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So get life insurance at the same company as your health insurance is what you're saying?
That sounds like an extremely unhealthy diet, with very little variation, and barely any vegetables.
Yes, it isn't to healthy. I do take multivitamins on top of it. I don't get a lot of exercise either but I'm not so out of shape that i get winded shop climbing 3 flights of stairs. I tried switching it around in the past but gained weight. I'm basically stuck in this rut until i find a different job that doesn't consume so much free time.
Hang on... are you saying that you DON'T think that you eat like shit? Really?
I don't respond to AC's.
My suggestion: put down the Big Mac. Stop taking the multivitamins; they are probably doing very little good to improve your health. Start eating more fresh fruits and vegetables. Start eating more whole grains. Start doing some regular exercise (e.g., ~2o minutes of exercise five days a week). If you do that, I think you will start to see some weight loss in a few weeks.
He eats like shit, but calorie count is not excessive.
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There was an excellent programme in the UK called "Secret eaters". They would have obese people - often a set from same household - who couldn't understand why they weren't losing weight, despite eating all healthy, compile a food diary. These food diaries would nearly always show the person was eating well, and should be losing weight.
The good bit was they'd then put the person under surveillance, with cameras in the house and (unbeknownst to the people) detectives following them around. Then they would compile a list of what the people were _actually_ eating. Pretty much universally, the obese people in their programmes were self-delusional about their eating. E.g., they'd tell themselves "But I only eat a salad for lunch" while ignoring all the sugary and/or fatty snacks they were eating at their desk or on breaks before other, and/or ignoring various calorie-rich sauces or other sides they were having with the salad - that type of thing.
So, I don't believe you.
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Oh, and also, it sounds like you eat at McDonalds for breakfast and dinner. I wonder if even the salad is McDonalds? (McDonalds amazingly can make a salad be as calorific as a burger btw!). That doesn't sound good at all.
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Multivitamins are pretty useless. You need a far more diverse range of proteins and other elements, than you can get from McMuffins, McBurgers, McSalads and pizza.
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Wow. .. You sure are clueless about fat people. I'm 360# right now, my normal day starts at 1am, out the door with no breakfast by 2am. At work by 3am with either a cup of coffee or tea depending on where I feel like stopping. By 6am, I have a break and typically grab another coffee or two and muffin egg sandwich. I drink water after that coffee is gone and eat nothing else until rought 4 pm. Between 4pm and 6pm, I grab two unsweetened teas and a double quarter pounder from McDonald's on the way home depending on traffic. Every once in a while i grab a fish sandwich too.
I do that 5 days a week and on weekends I usually skip breakfast and eat a largish salad for lunch. Dinner around 6pm and it is either another double quarter pounder or a couple slices of pizza. I rarely drink sweetened drinks. Gave up on alcohol outside special occasions and cakes or other similar foods come only the same.
If you really think all fat people eat the way you mentioned, You are highly confused.
I saw you. I know what you're doing.
When the kid behind the counter handed you the bag, you grabbed their wrist, pulled them over, and gobbled them down.
There's like, I dunno, thousands of calories in just one kid.
I certainly do not care if you believe me or not. If you think the only way to become obese is by eating the way the GP suggested you are clueless. It is that simple. I know my diet is not healthy and i don't get enough exercise. I also know that you do not need to constantly stuff your face to be fat.
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When I get out of shape and start exercising again, my weight balance shifts between fat and muscle first, by more than 5%, before I start to actually lose weight.
Just like BMI, I think studies that focus on weight alone leave out too much information on what's happening internally.
That is, I'd wager losing 5% of your weight from a week of stomach flu is not the same as 'earning' it.
For some sustained period of your life, your calorifie intake exceeded your energy expenditure and you put on weight. You may have reduced your calorie intake since then and stabilised your weight gain, however you have not reduced your calorie intake and/or increased your energy expenditure sufficiently to /reduce/ your weight.
At core, it is that simple.
There are details that matter though. E.g., different foods are digested and metabolised in different ways, and can produce different hormonal and neurological responses. E.g., sugar is processed quickly, alters insulin levels quickly, and your brain tends to crave it - so it doesn't fill you up. Higher fibre, less processed, and lower glycaemic index foods tend to be better for weight control. They make you feel full for longer, take more energy to digest, and your body responds more slowly. E.g., fresh fruit is great in that respect. Indeed, even *fats* aren't a bad thing per se - probably better to get your energy from fats than sugary things. Particularly, unprocessed (esp, never significantly heated) plant fats and oils from nuts, legumes, avocados, etc., seem to be good for us.
Also, not all exercise is equal either. You see people in gyms doing weights trying to lose weight - completely wrong. Sustained, aerobic exercise using the biggest muscles in your body: your legs and your stomach muscles (for breathing - not sit-ups). Doesn't have to be super-hard either, you actually burn more fat at *lower* intensity aerobic exercise. At higher intensities of aerobic exercise (i.e. the kind you can only sustain for ten or twenty minutes), your body uses sugars as they're easier to convert to energy. If you reduce the intensity a bit, down to a level you could sustain for an hour+, you should get to a zone where your body can meet the energy demands by burning fat stores - and your body usually will prefer to burn fat stores when it can (carbohydrate stores being more limited and precious).
The biggest issue is finding time for exercise. I hate the gym myself. To get exercise, I need to build it into my life so it's simply unavoidable. For me, that means relying on a bicycle to get to/from work. Cycling has worked for others. E.g., see: https://theamazing39stonecycli... - he lost 170 kilogrammes (~376 lbs) in a couple of years, by cycling.
If you review your life, make changes to how and what you eat, and exercise, it is possible to get to a healthy weight. Not easy, but you can make it happen.
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