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Raspberry Pi 3 Brings Wi-Fi and Bluetooth (i-programmer.info)

mikejuk writes: Details of the next in the family of the successful Raspberry Pi family have become available as part of FCC testing documents. The Pi 3 finally includes WiFi and Bluetooth/LE. Comparing the board with the Pi 2 it is clear that most of the electronics has stayed the same. A Raspberry Pi with built in WiFi and Bluetooth puts it directly in competition with the new Linux based Arduinos, Intel's Edison and its derivatives, and with the ESP8266 — a very low cost (about $2) but not well known WiFi board. And of course, it will be in competition with its own stablemates. If the Pi 3 is only a few dollars more than the Pi 2 then it will be the obvious first choice. This would effectively make the Pi Zero, at $5 with no networking, king of the low end and the Pi 3 the choice at the other end of the spectrum. Let's hope they make more than one or two before the launch because the $5 Pi Zero is still out of stock most places three months after being announced and it is annoying a lot of potential users.

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  1. Wifi vs USB3/GigE by fishwallop · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'd rather see faster IO than built-in wireless. I can easily add a dongle for wifi or bluetooth if I want it, but the current architectural constraints mean the Pi's not a great board for a low-end, low-power file server.

    1. Re:Wifi vs USB3/GigE by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      File server? Given the complete lack of disk based I/O I think "faster" is the least of your concerns and "not great" is a massive understatement.

      I would prefer it doesn't go down this road. All you do is further push the device towards jack of all trades and master of none. Get a proper fileserver board with some serious I/O and leave this as the tinkering development board it should be.

  2. Re:finally?? by Gaygirlie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can they instead get direct communication to the ethernet port, not that shitty solution over USB?

    It's not just the ethernet-port that is over USB, but it and all four of the USB-ports are all connected to a single, internal hub, meaning they all share the 480Mbps bandwidth. That's kind of crappy, would be nice to have it more like e.g. my Orange Pi PC is, ie. it has 3 USB-ports that are all fully capable of the 480Mbps -- no internal hub, whatsoever, and no sharing of bandwidth -- and the ethernet-interface is actually connected directly to the SoC, too. Though, unlike you, I would definitely want built-in WiFi and I heartily welcome that in RPi3.

    As an aside, I wonder if RPi3 will finally bring HEVC-support with it. It's one of those things I care a lot about.

  3. Re:finally?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No. Most people don't give a shit about that for what they are using this for. The nice thing about the ecosysytem today is that if you have a list of must-have features, you can find something that works for you. Complaining because you want high-end performance and networking in what is and has always been a low end part is just retarded. Pick the right part for your application and if it costs a few dollars extra there is a good reason for it.

  4. Re:finally?? by spire3661 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And NONE of them have the community RPi does. Technical superiority is never a guarantee of success. The Rpis bigest fault is the internal busses are pretty weak, other than that its a solid SoC for the money. Nothing can touch the Pi Zero in performance per dollar, its fantastic. I have one with a 128 GB micro SD card capturing himawari-8 data every 10 minutes and displaying it on my living room TV.

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    Good-bye
  5. Re:finally?? by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    For many people, compatibility and ecosystem are far more important than performance.

    Exactly. There are many alternatives to the Raspberry Pi (though I'm still not sure any can match it on cost). But none of them ship with something like NOOBS, a simple installation script that will magic on any number of very specific purpose built Linux distributions like super slim RISC, media centres like OpenELEC, just general Rasbian, (equips demonic shield with +10 fire resistance) Windows 10 IoT edition.

    I didn't want to add "ease of getting started" to my wish list, because I'm still keen to know if the GP is actually capable of naming a better performing device for the same price.