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South Korea Plans Moon Landing By 2020 (examiner.com)

MarkWhittington writes: The Korean Herald has reported that the South Korean Ministry of Science, ICT and Future Planning has started a lunar exploration program, allocating funding to place a probe in orbit around the moon and a small lander and rover on the surface of the moon by 2020. The United States and the government of South Korea have also made a space cooperation agreement, fueling speculation that NASA will participate in the South Korean moon shot.

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  1. In North Korea Moon Landing was in 2012 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Capitalist lackeys in South Korea behind victorious North Korea in moon landings!

    1. Re: In North Korea Moon Landing was in 2012 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually NK has no plans for a moon landing because it has done a poll and found that exactly 0 of its citizens have any interest in leaving best korea!

    2. Re: In North Korea Moon Landing was in 2012 by halivar · · Score: 4, Funny

      Also, the "moon" is capitalist imperial propaganda. What we call the moon is actually the glimmer in Kim Il Sung's heavenly eye, watching upon us and guiding us on the path of Juche.

    3. Re: In North Korea Moon Landing was in 2012 by johnsmithperson123 · · Score: 1

      In capitalist America moon shine on leader. In communist Russia, leader shine on moon!!!

    4. Re: In North Korea Moon Landing was in 2012 by Verdatum · · Score: 2

      Wow. You're kind of a dick.

    5. Re: In North Korea Moon Landing was in 2012 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      DISCLAIMER: I am in fact a US citizen

      We know. We produce the world's largest supply of passive-aggressive dipshits. Fun fact: Euros don't hate you because you're American; they hate you because you're a sanctimonious dick.

    6. Re: In North Korea Moon Landing was in 2012 by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Funny

      Bah ... in capitalist America, presidential candidates on moonshine.

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    7. Re: In North Korea Moon Landing was in 2012 by NominalLoss · · Score: 1

      Calm down, Dennis.

    8. Re: In North Korea Moon Landing was in 2012 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, the rich and sweet irony of being called a sanctimonious American dick by a sanctimonious American dick.

      Anyway, screw Euros. I always preferred Deutschmarks.

      Unless you meant European people as some racist all-inclusive generalization, in which case I have to ask if you are a federal perverted sociopath (NSA agent) to have such inside knowledge of what opinion Europeans have of me - considering I have met approximately 2 europeans in my life and got along just fine with them.

    9. Re: In North Korea Moon Landing was in 2012 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well yeah, he did say he was a US citizen, isn't that a prerequisite?

    10. Re: In North Korea Moon Landing was in 2012 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not at all. But the intersection of the sets "Dicks" and "US Citizens" are large enough that you'd be forgiven for making a correlation/causation fallacy there.

    11. Re: In North Korea Moon Landing was in 2012 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what were they doing in your mothers basement?

    12. Re: In North Korea Moon Landing was in 2012 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Waiting their turn.

    13. Re: In North Korea Moon Landing was in 2012 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are you talking about? North Korea already has moon bases and has terraformed Planet Kim (formerly Mars). You do know that everything that exists was invented in North Korea by Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Il or Kim Jong Un, right? Those damned westerners stole everything and staged a moon landing to try to show up glorious leader.

    14. Re: In North Korea Moon Landing was in 2012 by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Bah ... in capitalist America, presidential candidates on moonshine.

      You just let them set you up, then lowered the boom. Damn well played, sir.

      This really needs to be at least a + 5.

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    15. Re: In North Korea Moon Landing was in 2012 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No true American calls themselves a "US Citizen". Why so butthurt over "best korea"?

  2. Roscosmos more likely than NASA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    South Korea's only rocket is basically a baby version of the Russian Angara. Everyone has cooperation agreements with everyone else. They aren't worth the paper they are printed on. The S.Koreans have actually money invested in Angara.

    1. Re:Roscosmos more likely than NASA by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      This is a message being sent to NK... "We can target a missile at Kim Jong un's extra-wide ass..."

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    2. Re:Roscosmos more likely than NASA by k6mfw · · Score: 1

      Pretty much anyone besides NASA as nobody in US including Musk plans for missions to the Moon. Question would be who will be the first to land on the moon since Apollo program? Many post interesting plans so we'll have to see.

      I wish this country gets over its lunar phobia, I miss those days like at Ames Research Center where they had Moonfest in 2009 with featured speakers like Larry Krause, exhibits from various divisions, Ames Jazz Band playing music with Moon in the lyrics.

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    3. Re:Roscosmos more likely than NASA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This has nothing to do with a manned moon landing. This is just a lunar probe.

  3. Funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are just trying to play catch up with North Korea who has landed on the moon unlike the fake movie set American landing. Kim Jong himself used a shovel and no space suit to get soil samples and bring them back. He also built a thriving space hotel on the surface of the moon, but the imperialist Western media suppresses the pictures.

  4. All about the war? by omnichad · · Score: 2

    Is this only because of North Korea's rocket test?

    1. Re:All about the war? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Both halves of Korea want to be united, but the Kim Jongs will never accept a union where they are not dictator-for-life and South Korea will never accept being ruled by a Kim Jong dictator-for-life. As such, a lot of the public actions of each side are primarily political posturing to impress/intimidate the other (secondary benefits related to the rest of this wet rock may be a side factor).

      North Korea shows a little satellite make a reasonably stable orbit, now South wants to get in on the competition and jump a quarter million miles ahead.
      As added bonus, it shows that they are on par with the EU, USA, China, Russia, and everyone else who knows how to make ICBMs and how to rework them into cargo craft (Isn't India in that list too? I know there are more, but I'm blanking.)

    2. Re:All about the war? by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

      At this point I'm dubious SK wants to reunite with NK. The financial burden that NK would represent would dwarf even what East Germany represented to West Germany. The economy of NK is beyond basket case territory, and the only reason the country even exists is because China props it up and NK every once in a while blusters itself into financial aid from other parts of the world (oh, and arms sales).

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    3. Re:All about the war? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, that is very unlikely. South Korea does not need Intercontinental Missiles to reach North Korea. The demontration to "reach any point on the planet" is pointless if you have a quarrel with your neighbour and its capital is like 120 km from the border and it is like 300ish to the northern end.

    4. Re:All about the war? by Gavagai80 · · Score: 2

      If North Korea were smarter, they'd threaten to surrender and allow annexation by South Korea. They could demand billionsin bribes in exchange for taking that threat of economic devastation off the table.

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    5. Re:All about the war? by kuzb · · Score: 2

      No, South Korea doesn't want North Korea because then they'd have all the headaches of being bordered by China. North Korea is allowed to exist because it provides a buffer. All the reasons for the south not conquering the north are purely political and financial.

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  5. how much of a SK will be left after the north goes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    how much of a SK will be left after the north goes out with there big bang?

  6. Human exploration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With so many countries having space ambitions why won't they pool the money for common good? US, Russia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Canada, EU, and etc. are enough for a mars mission or two. Instead we are left with each country replicating research that's already been solved.

    1. Re:Human exploration by omnichad · · Score: 2

      This is just posturing against NK's launching a satellite into orbit. Another thing a rocket is good for is delivering a destructive payload to another country.

    2. Re:Human exploration by hey! · · Score: 2

      This is just posturing...

      Which turns out to have an amazing track record of success when it comes to lunar missions.

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    3. Re:Human exploration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *What* "common good"? How about repairing your infrastructure, that's a much greater good than test pilots in diapers bouncing on the Moon.

  7. Best Korea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Landed on moon in 1968!!!

  8. interesting if private korean companies enter by sittingnut · · Score: 1

    it would really be interesting if private companies from japan , korea, china, taiwan, etc, etc, enter space.

    if there is real money to be made in space, they would leave much hyped private 'space' companies in usa in the dust, same way they left most western industries in the dust.

    but i don't think they wont, because there isn't any real money in it, just government subsidies.

  9. Translation by NotDrWho · · Score: 1

    South Korea planning to develop ICBM technology in response to the North.

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    1. Re:Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wouldn't they only need a CBM?

  10. Maybe not about North Korea by MiniMike · · Score: 1

    Possibly they just want to have a foothold there before China sends up a dredge and claims that the Moon has always been part of Chinese territory?

    1. Re:Maybe not about North Korea by cyberspittle · · Score: 2

      China already claims moon as extension of South China Sea.

    2. Re:Maybe not about North Korea by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      Everyone knows the Lunar Festival is a Chinese holiday!

      Even the monkey in the moon admits that!

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  11. Losers by penguinoid · · Score: 2

    They're planning to go to the moon by 2020. We're planning to build a permanant manned moon base by 2020.

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    1. Re:Losers by yodleboy · · Score: 1

      yeah... the difference is when they say planning, they mean doing by 2020, when we say planning, we mean the planning might be complete by 2020, at which time the project will be deemed unworkable and planning will start again. I don't think NASA has a clue how to make it happen. I don't mean technically, I mean how to actually get a manned moon colony funded and delivered mostly on time and on budget. NASA plays politics worse than anyone.

  12. Rocketship: Unification Church by rsborg · · Score: 1

    Why would South Korea need to colonize the Moon?, Reverend Sun Myung Moon has already already colonized the USA (and one of the reasons that Louis Ferrakhan and G.W. Bush are 2 bacon-spaces apart).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  13. North Korea Plans Land Mooning By 2020 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With only their bare asses!

  14. Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    South Korea requires more minerals

  15. Likelihood theorem by micahraleigh · · Score: 1

    The more countries that start space programs, the less likely a human will again set foot on the moon.

    1. Re:Likelihood theorem by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      please explain your logic for that assertion; seems the opposite would be true

    2. Re:Likelihood theorem by farble1670 · · Score: 2

      I think the OP is saying that joint efforts are more productive and tens of countries pursuing the goal in isolation.

    3. Re:Likelihood theorem by Maritz · · Score: 1

      If the cost drops it doesn't make any difference.

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    4. Re:Likelihood theorem by micahraleigh · · Score: 1

      Yes !!

      Paradoxical isn't it?

      The world is becoming more talk and less action.

      The politicians (in this case Obama and Bush) come out with their press conferences and say, "Look what we planned to do !!" And they get their headlines.

      But when it comes to allocating funds, there is no commitment.

      Furthermore people in this generation put in more hours and accomplish less. It's a kind of restless, faithless energy that seeks only to look productive and professional while yielding no returns.

      "Do not judge by appearances. Judge according to righteousness"

    5. Re:Likelihood theorem by micahraleigh · · Score: 1

      The cost of labor has only climbed since the 60's (when the last man walked on the Moon, who was from the US btw).

      Back in the 1960's NASA didn't have to pay for drug counciling for all its employees. Back then people couldn't hang out in the emergency room and get free health care that everyone else paid for. Back then semi-ordinary people were engineers enough to build bridges. Back then people carried through their work to completion with a commitment to integrity. Back then NASA wasn't saddled with the task of reaching out to Muslim nations.

      I wouldn't rule out the cost dropping, but it would mean automating a lot of things and reducing the amount of used fuel.

  16. North Korea plans sun landing by 2020 by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

    because the moon is nothing compared to the sun, just as South Korea is nothing compared to Best Korea.

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    1. Re:North Korea plans sun landing by 2020 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even though I got called a sanctimonious dick for jokingly berating another post for use of the phrase 'best korea', this post does it right. Capitalized as it should be, with the proper sense of self-awareness being posted by "King Neckbeard"

      Thank god SOME people still understand how the internet is supposed to be used.

    2. Re:North Korea plans sun landing by 2020 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut up.

  17. The Moon: A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by sconeu · · Score: 2, Informative

    It amazes me that so many allegedly "educated" people have fallen so quickly and so hard for a fraudulent fabrication of such laughable proportions. The very idea that a gigantic ball of rock happens to orbit our planet, showing itself in neat, four-week cycles -- with the same side facing us all the time -- is ludicrous. Furthermore, it is an insult to common sense and a damnable affront to intellectual honesty and integrity. That people actually believe it is evidence that the liberals have wrested the last vestiges of control of our public school system from decent, God-fearing Americans (as if any further evidence was needed! Daddy's Roommate? God Almighty!)

    Documentaries such as Enemy of the State have accurately portrayed the elaborate, byzantine network of surveillance satellites that the liberals have sent into space to spy on law-abiding Americans. Equipped with technology developed by Handgun Control, Inc., these satellites have the ability to detect firearms from hundreds of kilometers up. That's right, neighbors .. the next time you're out in the backyard exercising your Second Amendment rights, the liberals will see it! These satellites are sensitive enough to tell the difference between a Colt .45 and a .38 Special! And when they detect you with a firearm, their computers cross-reference the address to figure out your name, and then an enormous database housed at Berkeley is updated with information about you.

    Of course, this all works fine during the day, but what about at night? Even the liberals can't control the rotation of the Earth to prevent nightfall from setting in (only Joshua was able to ask for that particular favor!) That's where the "moon" comes in. Powered by nuclear reactors, the "moon" is nothing more than an enormous balloon, emitting trillions of candlepower of gun-revealing light. Piloted by key members of the liberal community, the "moon" is strategically moved across the country, pointing out those who dare to make use of their God-given rights at night!

    Yes, I know this probably sounds paranoid and preposterous, but consider this. Despite what the revisionist historians tell you, there is no mention of the "moon" anywhere in literature or historical documents -- anywhere -- before 1950. That is when it was initially launched. When President Josef Kennedy, at the State of the Union address, proclaimed "We choose to go to the moon", he may as well have said "We choose to go to the weather balloon." The subsequent faking of a "moon" landing on national TV was the first step in a long history of the erosion of our constitutional rights by leftists in this country. No longer can we hide from our government when the sun goes down.

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    1. Re:The Moon: A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, there are alternatives. I imagined, once, having a square moon.
      The actual shape would be a pyramid, tidal locking wold(should) hold the square base facing Earth, and if the thing has a small 'height', the sides would never be seen....
      Kinda neat, but would be rejected by PRNK as a cpaitalistic lie.....
      Quite a bit of poetry would be different, and math/astronomy would have a different history...

      Combine this concept with a cubical Earth and the surface would appear 'flat' on any of the six sides...
      So: " Wy world is flat and my moon is square...' hee hee.

    2. Re:The Moon: A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Thanks for posting this Donald. I am a big fan, and you will be getting my vote on Super Tuesday.

    3. Re:The Moon: A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by Nunya666 · · Score: 1

      If that was an attempt at humor, you failed.

      If you were serious, then please admit yourself to the nearest mental hospital.

    4. Re:The Moon: A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 0
      Holy crap +3 informative?

      We need a +5 pulling everyone's leg mod.

      I really hope.

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    5. Re:The Moon: A Ridiculous Liberal Myth by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Dude, this one has been around for YEARS.

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  18. In true South Korean style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In true South Korean style, it'll be basically copying someone else's moon landing, but plastered with tasteless ads from Samsung or LG.

  19. South Korea plans my ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Korean here.

    "After joining the global space club with a successful launch of a satellite into orbit in 2013"

    Nonsense. Korea didn't launch any satellites into orbit. In the case of the 2013 launch, Korea asked Russia to do the launch. Korea claims to have at least designed the satellite on its own, which seems plausible from the fact that the satellite stopped working shortly after a year or so.

    "the Korean government also plans to sign an agreement with U.S.’ NASA for technological cooperation."

    You can read the above as "Korea will spend the money, NASA will perform and own the technology"

    This has nothing to do with North Korea. It's got everything to do with South Koreans doing what they do best, which is sucking up to the west.

    1. Re:South Korea plans my ass by Maritz · · Score: 1

      I expected a more rabid tone from you, Kim.

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  20. No outer space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, there is no outer space, no satellite, no moon landing, ...
    We are locked here, heaven is solid, this is hell you fools.

    1. Re:No outer space by Maritz · · Score: 1

      That's no moon. Landing.

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  21. ICBM Capability by T.E.D. · · Score: 2

    That you can make a moon landing implies you have the capability of creating a rocket that can accurately leave the atmosphere, return through the atmosphere, and hit the rough vicinity of a designated target. That's also what nuclear-tipped ICBMs have to do. But of course, other countries on this planet that might see themselves targets of yours might plausibly paint you as a horrible warmonger if you just announce that you now have the capability of launching nuclear ICBMs at them. But nobody can complain about a "moon landing". That's noble!

    This is why "moon landing" has always been geopolitical code for "ICBM capability". Its likely no mistake South Korea is announcing this now, while North Korean has been a particularly unstable pest recently.

    1. Re:ICBM Capability by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      Option 1: Fire a cheap missile westward a few hundred miles to hit any part of North Korea.
      Option 2: Build ICBMs so you can fire a missile eastward 24,000 miles to circle the entire planet and hit North Korea from the west.

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    2. Re:ICBM Capability by solartear · · Score: 1

      A cryogenic fuel ICBM is terrible for quickly sending a bomb less than 500 km away. South Korea has no one to target beyond that, unlike North Korea who wishes to threaten the much further USA.

      However, it is useful for upstaging North Korea who got to orbit first. Like USA using the Moon Landings to upstage the Sputnik and Gagarin achievements.

  22. The Artists rendition is an obvious fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Artists rendition is an obvious fake, everybody knows you cannot see stars in the sky of the moon.

  23. my unicorn approves of Kim Jong -en by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And all unicorns speak English.

  24. What do you want to bet... by CCarrot · · Score: 1

    ...that this is actually being funded by one of the top K-Pop factory producers?

    Don't get me wrong, I would love to see a BigBang / 4Minute collabo shot on-location at Mare Crisium...or Girls' Generation / EXO...or Super Junior / Red Velvet *fades off into kpop-induced daydreams*

    It's true, tho. Once you k-pop, you just...can't...stop...which is why this is my ringtone...and this is my alarm clock...etc, etc, etc ;-) :-S

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  25. Greetings Korean Commander by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Greetings Korean Commander

    Your mission is to take a force of Marines and Siege Tanks to the system body known as "Earth's Moon" to investigate a suspected Zerg presence.

    The bunkers of your battlecruiser have been filled with supplies of Vespene and Minerals, however you should plan on expanding your base promptly.

    Annihilate any persons or beings met who do not follow proper Confucian values.