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Mindfulness Meditators Are Less Affected By Virtual Reality (sciencedirect.com)

vrml writes: People often enroll in mindfulness meditation courses to pursue better health, but can such practices have unintended consequences on how they are engaged by emerging technologies such as virtual reality (VR)? That's what comes out from a new study published by the Computers in Human Behavior. A group of people with no experience in meditation tried scary VR experiences with an head-mounted display, while researchers measured their emotional reactions through physiological parameters such as heart activity and facial muscles activity. Then, half the participants followed a typical 8-week mindfulness course, while the other half did not (control group). At the end of the 8 weeks, they tried VR again. Participants who had practiced mindfulness during the 8 weeks were much less affected by VR: the scary VR experiences were not able to increase their heart rate as 8 weeks earlier, facial muscles activity was reduced, and their subjective perception of VR was consistent with this lack of engagement. On the contrary, the control group did not show such changes, and was still affected by VR. The paper interprets this emotional deactivation of meditators in terms of self-regulation of attention and detachment that can be gained through mindfulness, and can persist also when people (as these participants trying VR) are not meditating.

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  1. So, another benefit of mindfulness... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...is that one is not affected by hipster bullshit shallow flashy distractions.

    Fuck, I used to think mindfulness was eastern woowoo, but it's evolved into something that's actually useful for keeping oneself focused and rational, and I'm pleased to benefit from it. This is just another reason to recommend it.

    1. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's the biggest problem with Randi-style bullshit skepticism (as indicated by your use of the term 'woo woo'). They rely completely on intuition and gut-feelings to decide if something is or is not credible, rather than reason and evidence. So strong is the impulse, they'll even deny evidence that contradicts their preconceptions even exists.

      Fortunately, you weren't completely duped by their irrational brand of popular rationality. Its too bad so many others will remain deluded because of that clown.

    2. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In a related story, up is down and your butt smells like roses

    3. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hi James! Nice to see that your arguments are as solid as ever.

    4. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The placebo is strong in this one.

    5. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Even a Google search of the open web throws up a few studies showing that mindfulness is better than placebo (and while it isn't ALWAYS so, as a cheap group exercise it's a very decent placebo). Try harder.

    6. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any study that disagrees with what I believe is obviously wrong. The ones that do are irrefutable evidence.

    7. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that you think having bent spoons removed from your rectum at the ER is an accomplishment

    8. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by KGIII · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm a secular Buddhist, I've even been on refuge multiple times - including going to Nepal. I've been a practicing Buddhist (not a very good one and sure as fuck not a monk) for 20 years or so?

      A couple of things... I don't think we're all hipsters? Some might be. I am mindful because it enables me to be more understanding - it's purely selfish. There is no altruism there. I am mindful because it enables clarity and understanding. I am mindful because I want to be at peace with myself. A restful mind is a great place to live.

      Another, and this is more amusing than not, thing is that people seem inclined to tell me what I believe. "Oh, you can't believe that. Buddhists don't believe that." Err... Yes, yes we do. I am not even remotely unique in my beliefs and I'm perfectly well accepted, respected, and allowed to both speak and listen. I've been at this for a *very* long time, I'm pretty damned certain about who I am and what I believe.

      If you're curious, I believe in reincarnation but not like you might expect. My atoms will someday make up the materials of stars. I will not be conscious of it but my atoms will be used again. Someday, I will be a part of some star somewhere and even that cycle will begin anew until the heat death of the universe. Well, it might not be a star (and odds are against that) but I can hope.

      I believe in Karma and, again, not like one might expect. I believe that, for the most part, you get back out of it what you put into it. This is not always true and sometimes bad things happen to good people. My Karma will not be carried forward into the next life so I consider it a bank account. Why store it up if you're not going to spend it? (I even approach Slashdot Karma with the same views.)

      I don't proselytize nor do I actually give a shit what others believe. I do care how they act but mostly in regards to each other. I'll be fine without your compassion or acceptance. Being mindful, and then still of mind, means that I'm not so dependent on my ego and affirmation is not something I'm all that keen on. It would be boring to communicate with people who all agree with me. It's also important to mention again that I'm not a monk, I don't want to be a monk, I don't have the willpower to be a monk.

      I don't mention it often - my belief system is not something that's often on-topic. I've discussed it on Slashdot before and it often means someone comes along and tries to tell me what I can't believe. They obviously don't know much about Buddhism but they feel inclined to tell me all about my belief system. (Note: I did not say religion but you can use that word if you want.)

      An interesting aside; I was coming home from refuge once and still wearing my Kasaya (robes) and I noticed a difference in the way people react. I've since worn them in public in many areas. Nobody, and I mean nobody, seems inclined to mess with someone in the robes. They largely seem to assume I'm a monk (or a Hare Krishna, seriously) even though one needn't be a monk to wear them. I can assure you, I am no monk.

      At any rate, it's quite amazing how different you're treated. I've been in the middle of some messed up stuff and I can just meander through. Nobody cares. If they do care, it's to bow to you (I'm not sure why) or to want to shake your hand. Sometimes they expect you to speak wise words. The robes are awesome on an airplane when you've got someone next to you and they want to talk. Just point to your lips, shake your head, and they SMILE and leave you alone.

      As a compromise with myself, I have managed to keep a few "wise" things and koans handy for people who seem inclined to ask. It's okay that they ask, I don't mind. I was a bit startled at first as I'm not used to people looking at me as a source for wisdom. I don't have much for wisdom but I do have experiences. So, I usually share those.

      Hmm... What's a good one for today? How about, "A stone is only heavy when you carry it." To tie that into this topic, "You can not be mindful while carrying your burden. Let

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    9. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'Placebo' is fast becoming Sceptic's God of the Gaps equivalent for explaining away things they don't like.

    10. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by mellon · · Score: 3, Informative

      The funny thing about this is that what's actually going on is that people who practice mindfulness are less easily rattled. It's got nothing to do with the VR googles.

    11. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In my early 20's, circa 1970, I discovered Tai Chi Ch'uan and Taoist meditation and chi gung. I would say I am an American neo-Taoist; the American part meaning we mostly filled in the gaps using our imagination, and with very little direct decendancy from practicing Asian Taoists. The history of the contact between Indian Buddhists and Chinese Taoists was supposedly one of mutual surprise: you meditate too!?!? I've studied a bit a Buddhism. Enough to know it is vast field, with a tremendous variety is ways (pun) to be or practice of study Buddhism. Possibly Hinduism is the only religion that surpasses Buddhism for the the amount of variety. I forget who, but one Hindi explained that if there are 100 million Hindis, then there is 100 million unique branches of Hinuism.
      KGIll post is most, um, enlightening. I would echo his experience that most Americans and Westeners have a simplistic version of meditation. Not that American's are unique in this. The other common thing I experience is that Americans and Westeners largely view all religions as the same as Christianity, just plug in different gods and beliefs. This applies both Christians and atheists, and those in between. (The angry, hateful and rabid-screeching* branch of atheists are often the worst in this regard). An example would be the place of faith in Christianity, which for my spiritual inclinations is mostly irrelevant. Or the concepts of "belief." I'm much more comfortable in what I do not know.
      Final comment: I heard this back in the 1970's or 1980's? There was an experiment where Buddhist, I think Tibetan monks were given LSD, and their brainwaves were recorded. Unlike controls, their brainwaves did not change. Or something along those lines.

    12. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So strong is the impulse, they'll even deny evidence that contradicts their preconceptions even exists

      This is a part of the human condition. The effect is more pronounced in the older people. It can have an effect even to hearing and visual perception in everyday situations. Pick-pockets, con-artists and magicians use it for their benefit.

    13. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The other common thing I experience is that Americans and Westeners largely view all religions as the same as Christianity, just plug in different gods and beliefs.

      This is partly due to the way theology and comparative religion is taught in schools. Christian belief as it is today is the first framework that is applied to the analysis of the other religions. The other part is just basic social need to belong: lets force a god figure where there are none so that the other people can relate to us more easily. Even the old, almost forgotten Christian sects from the times of the early Church and even middle ages are still suffering from the same lack of understanding.

    14. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by EvilAlphonso · · Score: 1

      Another, and this is more amusing than not, thing is that people seem inclined to tell me what I believe. "Oh, you can't believe that. Buddhists don't believe that." Err... Yes, yes we do. I am not even remotely unique in my beliefs and I'm perfectly well accepted, respected, and allowed to both speak and listen. I've been at this for a *very* long time, I'm pretty damned certain about who I am and what I believe.

      The core of the issue is that there are more forms of Buddhism than there are countries practicing it. What a Nichiren Buddhist in Japan believes is not the same as what a Shingon Buddhist in Japan believes, which is not the same as what a Soutou Buddhist in Japan believes, which in turn is not the same as what a Tibetan Buddhist believes... People see Buddhism as a unified belief system with a core dogma, but it's a family of beliefs systems stemming from the mixing of "Hinduism stripped down for export, split in two different schools of thought" and "prevalent belief system of the area".

      If you're curious, I believe in reincarnation but not like you might expect. My atoms will someday make up the materials of stars. I will not be conscious of it but my atoms will be used again. Someday, I will be a part of some star somewhere and even that cycle will begin anew until the heat death of the universe. Well, it might not be a star (and odds are against that) but I can hope.

      For some schools of zen Buddhism, reincarnation is simply the fact that the current happening isn't the same as any previous or future happening. A bit like "you can't cross the same river twice".

    15. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Well the placebo benefit is due the minds focus on greater healing. So yes meditation is like a placebo. But sometimes it works.
      That is why in clinical trials they are three groups.
      Takes the drug, takes the placebo, no drugs.
      It is to determine if the drug is effictive or not.

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    16. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You probably stroke a nerve there, that's why you got -1.

    17. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing Randi debunked your pet delusion at some stage, right?

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    18. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by peragrin · · Score: 1

      You do know there are more dmenamantions of christianity than than countries practicing it too.

      Each with it's own set of twists, practices and faiths.

      Me personally I practice my own faith. a mix of methodism(christianity) and Buddhism, Allowing me to have faith in the world around me, without being caught up in a specific ritual.

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    19. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by EvilAlphonso · · Score: 1

      Sure but at least the denominations of christianity do agree that there was this guy about 2000 years ago, who was the son of the one and only big boss, that the big boss pretty much created the whole reality, that eternal salvation is only through the boss or his son, that a set of clear instructions was given at some point, and that someone has the absolute knowledge. Of course, it also splintered into salvation by grace, by piety or by acts. If you are a christian, by definition you believe in the one god but you may disagree on the finer details of the faith or which set of instructions you should follow. You could say that God, Jesus, the new testament (common parts of all translations) are part of the core dogma.

    20. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by kilfarsnar · · Score: 1

      That's the biggest problem with Randi-style bullshit skepticism (as indicated by your use of the term 'woo woo'). They rely completely on intuition and gut-feelings to decide if something is or is not credible, rather than reason and evidence. So strong is the impulse, they'll even deny evidence that contradicts their preconceptions even exists.

      Fortunately, you weren't completely duped by their irrational brand of popular rationality. Its too bad so many others will remain deluded because of that clown.

      I've visited their forums. The groupthink is strong there. They usually argue that things are just as they seem. I guess that's in line with Randi's perspective. But it doesn't seem very skeptical to just defend the status quo. That seems more credulous.

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    21. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by kilfarsnar · · Score: 1

      Any study that disagrees with what I believe is obviously wrong. The ones that do are irrefutable evidence.

      Heh, yep. You're doing it right!

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    22. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For a secular Buddhist, it sure seems like you're off your meds a lot, according to your post history.

    23. Re:So, another benefit of mindfulness... by vernonB · · Score: 1

      As long as we're sharing: I've been a consistent sitter for 9 years, rarely missing a day. I started with a couple years of Zen training at a lay zendo in New York City before going my own way. Has meditation made me a happier, more stable, more equanimous and clear-minded person? I don't know. How could I? But I suspect (based on all the neuroscience and anecdotal evidence) that it probably has. I think it probably makes it possible for me to see what my mind is doing, at least some of the time, rather than just being dragged around by it -- and that makes the world a better place, albeit only slightly.

      But here's the thing: I don't really care whether I or anyone else benefits from my practice, because after doing it for so long i do it with no expectation of reward. This in itself is liberating.

  2. Before you start wondering how the crazies got in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    "Mindfulness meditation" is how one would describe someone actively practicing not living in the moment. In other words, they're saying that people who exist higher on the consciousness scale (there are several terms for what boils down to heightened awareness) are better able to distinguish reality from virtual reality.

  3. Kind of missing the bigger picture by Shoten · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Mindfulness meditators are less rattled by actual reality as well. That's kind of the whole point of it. Things that are scary or stressful don't knock them off balance as much. The VR angle should not be a surprise.

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    1. Re:Kind of missing the bigger picture by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Cognitive Behavioral Therapy can help you learn the same thing, without meditation.

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    2. Re:Kind of missing the bigger picture by John+Allsup · · Score: 4, Informative

      Many CBT practitioners teach or advise mindfulness, though.

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    3. Re:Kind of missing the bigger picture by sacdelta · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The VR angle is most likely an attempt to just make the study appear more modern and relevant.

      To properly test the VR aspect, they should repeat the study with non-VR stimulus to see if there is a significant difference in improvement.

      Otherwise it is just a study in meditation effect on stress response with the VR just tacked on so that tech news will carry it.

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    4. Re: Kind of missing the bigger picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very much what I came to post.

      I play games, but one thing they don't do on most levels is scare me.
      I practice mindfulness and have done for a while to keep my immune system under control (crohns), so far after 10 years it has been the only thing that has helped me. Most autoimmune meds have either made me infinitely worse or done nothing but make me ill though secondary infection.
      Worse still is doctors just straight fucking ignore that and just throw me under the "oh, he's just one of those whiners" rug.

      Went on a tangent there, but it is related since so many shit studies and opinions are heavily biased or cursed with knowledge and ignorance.

    5. Re:Kind of missing the bigger picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cognitive Behavioral Therapy can help you learn the same thing, without meditation.

      Spot on Barbara! I am an Ex-Airborne soldier with PTSD that comes in waves. The CBT that I received was high in mindfulness content and it did actually help.
      Posting anon for obvious reasons

    6. Re: Kind of missing the bigger picture by johnsmithperson123 · · Score: 1

      Or alternatively reading The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever, with the added advantage of sadness immunity.

    7. Re:Kind of missing the bigger picture by PPH · · Score: 1

      Mindfulness meditators are less rattled by actual reality as well.

      There's a reason people experience an adrenaline rush in the face of a potential threat. It readies them to react quickly and perhaps save their life. If mindfulness meditation dulls that response, the results could be bad if the situation calls for immediate action.

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    8. Re:Kind of missing the bigger picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doing the Rational Emotive Behavioral Therapy ABC123 outcome planning exercise could be mistaken for meditation

    9. Re:Kind of missing the bigger picture by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

      I have PTSD and Major Depressive Disorder, and it's by talking publicly about it that we reduce the stigma and help others understand it more.

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    10. Re: Kind of missing the bigger picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quick reactions means less time to think before acting and therefore more likely to make mistakes and dangerous decisions.

    11. Re:Kind of missing the bigger picture by KGIII · · Score: 1

      Too funny. I mentioned similar above. IIRC, CBT does also recommend meditation as much as is safe and therapeutic for the individual. I am told that it is helpful. I made a few other posts in this thread with some other details, things not oft shared. I try to avoid the subject of belief systems on Slashdot. What the hell? If my beliefs don't hold up to scrutiny, why hold onto them?

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    12. Re:Kind of missing the bigger picture by KGIII · · Score: 2

      It doesn't dull that response. Well, more accurately, it doesn't have to. Mindfulness includes awareness of externalities. If anything, one is "in tune" with their surroundings at a higher/greater level and will thus notice abnormalities, such as threats, more rapidly. If I had to raise my hand and make a blind wager, based on experience, I'd submit that it has the opposite effect.

      Put it this way, do you want someone who's antsy and easily startled to be on the lookout or do you want someone who is calm and collected? That's not to say that this can't result in someone being less aware - but that it doesn't *have* to result in people being less aware. It's a state of heightened awareness, awareness of yourself, others, your surroundings, and even can include things like someone else's breathing pattern.

      I'd say that it depends on the situation, person, goal, and ability. You're not necessarily wrong but that doesn't make you right. There are certainly exceptions to the rule where the best they can muster is simply wrapping themselves up in thoughts. The ultimate goal of being mindful is stillness of the mind and, in the case of some Buddhists, ridding oneself of desire. There are many steps along that path and many ways to achieve it. Entering a deep meditative state that is beyond capacity to recognize externalities is not generally the goal and runs a bit counter to the idea of mindfulness in general. It has its place but it's not the atypical place and goal.

      Not sure if that's articulated well... A quick reread doesn't help me make up my mind. I deleted a few paragraphs as they seem to only make it more confusing.

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    13. Re:Kind of missing the bigger picture by mwa · · Score: 1

      So... Mindfulness training can inoculate people against political propaganda?

      Can we get the U.S. population trained before November?

    14. Re: Kind of missing the bigger picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or just watch NASA and Russian mission control during launch or deorbit. Nerves like heavy duty steel cables. Got to watch the curiosity landing live at the Oakland observatory with some nasa scientists speaking. Stone cold gals and guys, just knowing and observing what is happening and keeping their cool

    15. Re:Kind of missing the bigger picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With VR you can create a visually complex controlled experiment more easily and repeatably.

    16. Re:Kind of missing the bigger picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cognitive Behavioral Therapy can help you learn the same thing, without meditation.

      And mindfulness can help you learn the same thing, without CBT.

      I don't get your point. Is meditation to be avoided?

    17. Re:Kind of missing the bigger picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes! It's called equanimity, and it's not an "unintended consequence" of mindfulness training. It's kind of one of the essential components on the practice! That subjects would be less negatively reactive to "virtual" distressing stimuli is entirely consistent with findings that they are less negatively reactive to distressing stimuli generally, as found in other studies such as:

      http://www.ihafer.com/mindfuln...

    18. Re:Kind of missing the bigger picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL. As a mindfulness practitioner, I can tell you my ability to respond to a lion attack or other threat is not diminished at all. However, you also experience cortisol release (a stress hormone) in the face of a *perceived* threat. (Emphasis added.) You don't hear much about people complaining about being under too little stress these days, do you? It tends to be the opposite... people experiencing chronic stress, adrenaline and cortisol release from meaningless perceived threats. And since chronic elevated stress hormone levels cause myriad medical problems, it would explain the large and growing interest in stress reduction, including mindfulness meditation.

    19. Re:Kind of missing the bigger picture by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      What's more interesting is that VR can have quite a profound impact on the mind. More so than film, it seems. There are already efforts to use VR in treating PTSD, but we will probably need to look at new regulatory measures too. The voluntary code for games might be insufficient, and its likely there will be an effort made to enforce age ratings more strictly.

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    20. Re:Kind of missing the bigger picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Many CBT practitioners teach or advise mindfulness, though.

      Though what?

    21. Re: Kind of missing the bigger picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      just knowing and observing what is happening and keeping their cool

      This is the #1 reason why Hollywood moves about NASA appear so fake to me (an a main reason I stopped watching movies altogether).

    22. Re:Kind of missing the bigger picture by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      It's easier to create a realistic stressful situation with VR than it is without. By "easier" I mean easier to sell to an ethics review board and get volunteers for.

    23. Re:Kind of missing the bigger picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cognitive Behavioral Therapy can help you learn the same thing, without meditation.

      And mindfulness can help you learn the same thing, without CBT.

      I don't get your point. Is meditation to be avoided?

      It hasn't been scientifically proven to be a thing beyond a shadow of a doubt. To some that means there is no way no how it could ever be a thing.

    24. Re:Kind of missing the bigger picture by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      All I know is that I'm impressed with the results from CBT with a good therapist. Really impressed. (gee, I remember the days when CBT stood for computer-based training. something that pretty much tanked).

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    25. Re:Kind of missing the bigger picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not exactly. As a retired psychologist and long time meditator, I would say that the two practices are complimentary but that meditation makes one less reactive overall.

    26. Re:Kind of missing the bigger picture by PPH · · Score: 1

      in the face of a *perceived* threat.

      But that's the whole point of VR's use in training (and entertainment). To develop the appropriate reactions in the face of a real threat by the use of an artificial one. It won't do you any good to add a conscious step in what should be an automatic reaction to figure out if this is a real lion (hobo with knife, mugger with gun, etc.) or a virtual one.

      people experiencing chronic stress

      That's screaming kids, asshole bosses, jerk drivers. And that's what 'mindfulness meditation' is good for. But I'm guessing that most VR sessions don't involve dealing with the PHB.

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    27. Re:Kind of missing the bigger picture by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember my psy professor in college telling me something similar. She was talking about yoga and meditation being complementary to psychological therapy, not a substitute for it. I guess it depends on what the goal is. For managing Chron's, like another person commented here, mindfulness meditation may be all that it takes, and no psych therapy sessions are necessary.

  4. So detached people are detached huh? by dsmatthews9379 · · Score: 1

    Well duh! Oh well I guess that if the study helps people to "get" what meditation is about it is a good thing.

  5. Re:Before you start wondering how the crazies got by Shoten · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Mindfulness meditation" is how one would describe someone actively practicing not living in the moment. In other words, they're saying that people who exist higher on the consciousness scale (there are several terms for what boils down to heightened awareness) are better able to distinguish reality from virtual reality.

    Actually, you have that backwards. "Mindfulness" is very much about living in the moment. It's nothing new, just a Western term for what is basically zen meditation. Think of it in terms of being "mindful," as in, just paying attention and not having your head up your ass.

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  6. Mindful Meditator by mADneSs · · Score: 3, Funny

    Huh. Saw the headline and figured this was some new Ubuntu release or something.

    1. Re:Mindful Meditator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would be Masturbating Monkeys.

    2. Re:Mindful Meditator by NotInHere · · Score: 1

      What about Smelly Slashdotter?

    3. Re:Mindful Meditator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I will panic when Ubuntu releases their Guru Meditator version.

    4. Re:Mindful Meditator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Next release title is mischievous morlock

  7. Put the bunny back in the box! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    Man Stoner: [looks around] : I think we're parked.

  8. Fuck Elsevier and their journals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuck Elsevier, the abusive profiteering agency reeking in dishonest cash, destroyer of public commons of science and culture. And fuck their sciencedirect.com website, and all their journals.

    I throw my folding chair in your general direction!

    1. Re:Fuck Elsevier and their journals by KGIII · · Score: 0

      Their direction is in the same direction as your monitor, no? If that's the case, I recommend you stand back and throw for all you're worth! Put your back into it. If at first you don't succeed, try again! If throwing it doesn't work, then keep smashing at the monitor with your chair until it does work. Don't let that monitor get the best of you and don't let that site go unpunished! Smash that shit.

      Hell, when you're done? Smash the keyboard for good measure. Fire up your favorite email client and jump up and down on your keyboard until you've typed out enough to let them know exactly how angry you are about their profiteering and usurpation of the public interest! Smash the ever living shit out of and make sure they truly understand the power of your rage. You are not impotent! You have a voice! Let it be heard! Let it be heard once and for all, let it be known that you are angry, let it be known that you have something to say and you're not going to stop until you're done saying it.

      You know what? Just to be certain, you might still be unheard and unheeded. You should pick up your tower and slam it on the floor hard enough that the very bytes are sent out of the networking card. Jump up and down on it until you see sparks. Put your foot through it until you see the innards. When you get that far, keep kicking that thing until you see the networking card snap from the motherboard or pop out from its socket. Then kick it again for good measure. Those sparks? That's you sending a few more packets to let them know how angry you really are and how insistent you are on getting the message across.

      If you've got a router then we can help with that too. There's absolutely no reason for this and you should not stand for it. You should not stand idle while they persist. Your every move, every breath, and every thought should have but one goal and one goal only. You need to make sure that you're heard, heard clearly, and obeyed. Do not stop at that level! No, son... You're on a self-assigned mission to force adherence to your ideals and there's no reason for you to have it any other way.

      Violence is like epoxy, if it doesn't work then mix up another batch and use more of it.

      In case you're curious, this is not mockery. This is unceasing adoration that knows no bounds. This is admiration and respect! This, Mr. AC, is me thanking you for doing the things I've not the pride nor courage to do myself. We need you, we need you to defend us. We need you to speak on our behalf. We need you to do for us that which we can not do for ourselves! Let us, for just one moment, live vicariously through you and your deeds. Let us bask in your courage and amplitude! Let us learn from you, absorb your courage via osmosis, and strive to become just 1/10th the man you are, for we are not truly worthy but we are sincere in our appreciation!

      --
      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
  9. Oh no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How horrifying, some people still know the difference between reality and fiction.

  10. Don't mind that officer.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's just two 300 baud modems crammed up my ass.

  11. Meditating zombies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    soo... Mindfulness meditation makes you brain dead?

    1. Re:Meditating zombies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently. Well, at least in KGIII's case.

  12. Calling Houston ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Houston, we have a problem. One sensor say up, the other says down. Probability of impact, 50%. Please feed the goldfish."

  13. mindfulness or mindless by lkcl · · Score: 0

    thought it said "mindless meditation" for a moment...

  14. Don't know where to start by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Am I more disgusted that this faux round-eye bastardization of misunderstood Eastern superstition is labeled with the absolute abomination that is the imagined word "mindfulness"; or am I more disgusted by the utter laziness on display by the submitter and editors in allowing a summary with such despicable linguistic failures to be displayed on the main page?

    BIZX - whiplash - anyone: do you have anybody on staff who speaks English? I mean, that can do so without making all these basic errors? When I read these summaries full of errors, I can't help but think a decent professional site would extend its readers the courtesy of correctly rendering its content.

    1. Re:Don't know where to start by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Get back to us when you get that relative pronoun thing down, faux Grammar Nazi.

      Mindfulness is a dictionary word.

      If Buddhadhasa Bikkhu didn't object to it being used in the title for one of his books, perhaps you might wish to reconsider your position.

      I'll let "whiplash" address your remaining error.

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      Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
  15. scary VR doesn't bother me by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    Mindfulness

    Scary buzzwords give me the creeps!

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    “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    1. Re:scary VR doesn't bother me by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Not a buzzword. Please insert 25 cents to continue.

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      Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
    2. Re:scary VR doesn't bother me by fustakrakich · · Score: 0

      Grandpappy called it concentratin', real hard

      *There's no place like home*

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      “He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
    3. Re:scary VR doesn't bother me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not exactly. mindfulness is a form of awareness that should be "performed" passively. it's easy to learn the concept with brief training, but extremely difficult to gain mastery at.

  16. Re:Before you start wondering how the crazies got by KGIII · · Score: 1

    This... If I may opine, being mindful is being exactly that, mindful. You're aware of you - your surroundings, your thoughts, your breathing, your heart rate, you movements, your desires, your everything and - ideally - those things around you. There are varied levels of mindfulness, one might not want to be as mindful as they could be while driving - while being mindful while driving is also a good thing. It's not a binary thing, there are lots of shades of gray and being mindful of different things is a good thing even though the ideal is everything.

    Being mindful is nothing more than the name implies. There's no mysticism. It doesn't even require closing your eyes or being seated in any special or awkward positions - you don't even have to starve yourself until your ribs poke through your skin. The goal is being constantly mindful. If you're mindful then you can achieve stillness. With stillness there is no desire. Without desire, you are free. 'Snot really all that complicated.

    I believe modern psychology is teaching/practicing something a bit similar. They call it CBT or Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. That's a subset, if I'm understanding how it was described to me. It is where you're "in tune" with your physical self (mindful) and seeing the way you feel physically or what you are physically doing as a way to understand what's mentally going on. People with some forms of mental illness will manifest their symptoms physically before they're actually able to realize it mentally. This gives them the chance to interrupt that process and change their thinking and/or to change their physical state.

    I believe there's another called DBT but I have no idea what that entails and I'm too lazy to look it up. Either way, there's no real mysticism or anything. I want to say that it's fairly well understood, as much as anything involving the brain is understood. It's not like it's new, hip, or even unique to Buddhism. It's certainly not trendy, I don't think? I've been engaged in the practice for what must be 20+ years though certainly quite a bit longer than that but with a different perspective and goal.

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    "So long and thanks for all the fish."
  17. The first obvious thing that comes to mind by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 0

    OK, so if you meditate, then you are more likely to get killed when the shit hits the fan because your reaction times are slowed?

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    _ _ _ Go for the eyes Boo! GO FOR THE EYES!
    1. Re:The first obvious thing that comes to mind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sounds like you'll be less likely to be wearing VR goggles and get killed when the shit actually hits the fan. ha ha ha

  18. The whole point of VR... by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 1

    The whole point of VR is to provide a close approximation of sensory stimuli that emulate reality such that you suspend disbelief - and therefore enjoy the exhilaration of the experience while 'inside' of the VR world presumably in situations you would never encounter in the real world.

    From my own experiences in various VR worlds - I also know that continued and repeated exposure to those worlds - and the recognition of the 'cracks' in the fidelity of the VR in a given world - lead to the same desensitization described here. I presume those of us who continue to show heightened effects over time within VR (e.g. the control group) are slow learners - or not gamers/VR enthusiasts.

    OK, so if you meditate, then you are more likely to get killed when the shit hits the fan because your reaction times are slowed? - the_Bionic_lemming

    No - just the opposite. Meditation is not 'zoning out' or going to sleep - it is actually the opposite of that - becoming acutely aware of everything around you while quieting the inner stream of consciousness (monologue or dialogue depending on your level of schizophrenia). I think of the mind in this state as being like a computer with more free CPU cycles -- more processing can be directed constructively - thus having the outward effect of speeding up your reaction times in various scenarios.

    Adrenaline fueled action can either get you killed, or keep you alive - it is not just reaction times that count, as much as a timely accurate response. This is why soldiers are trained as close as possible to wartime conditions to desensitize them and allow them to remain in self control and combat effective when the shit really does hit the fan.

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    Lodragan Draoidh
    The more you explain it, the more I don't understand it. - Mark Twain
    1. Re:The whole point of VR... by yes-but-no · · Score: 1

      No - just the opposite. Meditation is not 'zoning out' or going to sleep - it is actually the opposite of that - becoming acutely aware of everything around you while quieting the inner stream of consciousness (monologue or dialogue depending on your level of schizophrenia). I think of the mind in this state as being like a computer with more free CPU cycles -- more processing can be directed constructively - thus having the outward effect of speeding up your reaction times in various scenarios.

      Not only your CPU runs at say 0.1% load, you will see time slowing down; like how Neo stops/picks the bullets when Smith fires at him. Of course no one can relate to this, unless you do it and experiment with yourself. blue-pill takers will only ridicule.

  19. Sooooooo.... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Meditation is about as good as a heavy dose of Valium?

    Makes sense.

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    We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
  20. Mindfullness and meditation are of the devil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You open yourself up to unclean spirits because your not Channeling . The Bible says so or it would if most Christians would or could be bothered to actually read the damn thing.

  21. This does not necessarily apply to VR only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Interesting study but it does not prove that mindfulness meditators are less affected by VR. It could be that mindfulness meditators are less affected by everything, including being in more control and less emotional in real life-threatening situations. The study should have examined non-VR responses to similar stimuli as well in order to validate that this effect is VR-specific.

  22. Ruby Wax by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

    The placebo is strong in this one.

    Actually the neuroscience is strong on mindfulness and Ruby Wax is well qualified to explain it in an entertaining manner.

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    And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
  23. TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am guessing that this is more a commentary on television watching then on so-called "Mindfulness Meditation". I would like to see a study on TV viewership v. VR. My guess is that the more divorced one is from television the more immune to VR tricks they become. Also as a public service announcement..... "Throw out your TV" It is making you fat, lazy and complacent.

  24. Re:Before you start wondering how the crazies got by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

    I wonder if a "not having your head up your ass workshop" would get as many attendees as a "mindfulness workshop."