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Brazil Facebook Head Arrested For Refusing To Share WhatsApp Data (bbc.com)
An anonymous reader writes: Diego Dzodan, an Argentine national and Facebook's vice president for Latin America, has repeatedly refused to comply with court orders to hand over data for use in a criminal investigation of a WhatsApp user suspected of drug trafficking, police said. His arrest relates to the messaging service WhatsApp, owned by Facebook. In a statement, Facebook called Mr. Dzodan's arrest an "extreme and disproportionate measure." The company said, "Facebook has always been and will be available to address any questions Brazilian authorities may have." Judge Marcel Maia Montalvao had in two previous instances issued fines against Facebook for refusing to release WhatsApp data. In December, a judge in Brazil suspended WhatsApp for 48 hours in a similar case.
Nice change of events for Facebook. Never expected them to not gush all the data they collect.
Whatsapp uses fairly strong encryption end to end for users, so there may not be any data for Facebook to share with authorities at all depending upon the dates in question and if they purged previously held data after upgrading to stronger encryption last November.
This is going to happen more and more as countries struggle with balancing justice with privacy, and I expect a lot of places to start banning encryption as the developers around the globe are refusing to implement backdoors.
He is rich, insanely rich. Its all just the facebook brand, some servers, some code, some employees. Nothing much. Still he is #6. Why? Because he keeps his brand relevant. If it came out he cooperates with the authorities, who will use facebook?
Do you think he will ever cooperate with the state authorities again? It will hurt his image. It will lower the valuation of the company. He doesn't want that. So at least to the public he acts like he refuses to let the states spy on their people. What happens in the NDA covered parts is a different matter, but it doesn't affect facebook stock negatively. In fact perhaps even positively because it may allow him enter markets that were closed without cooperation with the authorities.
The article does not mention what data they asked for, only that FB refused to give it.
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By the way he is from Argentina. Same continent, different country, different language.
Do you really expect an anti-religion or anti-catholic bigot to understand nuances like that?
Not going to say that I like th courts trying to force data collection (although this seems to be targetted at a single suspect with a warrant), but I do like shutting down a company for two days to punish it. If Wall Street firms weren't allowed to trade for a few days, with their positions locked, as punishments, maybe we would start seeing better behavior.
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I'm confused. There was a (several?) court order(s) to give up data. The company policy is to comply with such ("Facebook has always been and will be available to address any questions Brazilian authorities may have,").
So why did he refuse to hand it over? I even tried to RTFA. This blazingly obvious (to me) question wasn't answered even there. Why is Facebook disappointed with an employee who neither follow law or company policy?
I assume you are talkig about the pope here as a reaction to someone else hoping the pope would be the last problem from that country.
He was correct on the country part as they are BOTH from Argentina.
Diego Dzodan, an Argentine national
So there's that.
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Refuse to comply to the court repeatedly, and sooner or later you will face court contempt and arrest. In some case indefinite arrest : there was the case of this guy int he US which was found in contempt of the court and spent what, 14 years there https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... ? He was only released recently because the court found he would never comply and it was not in the society interest to keep him longer. And that was only money evasion NOT drug trafficking which is arguably a stronger offense.
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seeing how the other day news about whatsup went, try explaining this one to americans that use sms and email from their phones
wheres my popcorn
btw the case is crystal clear, well as crystal clear as international law goes, (that is not much at all), this looks like they need the messages to totally nail the dude, they have something on him for sure otherwise the court would have not acted to begin with, this is not the carioca nsa version asking for it, or a senator from a lobby, this is not the iphone backdoor situation, this is not the police, this is after the police investigation and maybe depending on the crime after a prosecutor is involved and they determine its necessary. Facebook operates in brazil, they own the app, it does not matter if the data is there or not, they have to comply or get the fuck off the country, unless they are asking for too much or the data is irretrievable, like i said, this situation has gone thru filters already, its a court order for a particular situations, its not about precedence because precedence only works the way you know it works in common law systems, in other systems works differently, they probably just want it for this case thats why the judge got mad and rekt that guy all the way to prison, maybe its not his fault, but for sure he works for an asshole company thats just looking for attention and doing a little bit of whiteknighting in a third world country
Why not hand over the data? You received a court order.
and hear this for the first time, here * it smells a defamatory campaign...
occurred on a very small state here: some judges in there will lost their jobs :-)
and the judges alleged the info is about an interstate drug-traffic related case, so, there's some real-world motivation...
The problem is legal jurisdiction: there's laws here in Brazil covering this cases, but the data was hosted in servers worldwide: if the data was stored in Brazil, the judges where legally correct
Except that never happened, and you're a fucking liar using strawman arguments to support your own shitty one.
Ok I need a WhatsWhatsApp app.
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