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Mozilla Jumps On IoT Bandwagon (thestack.com)

mikejuk writes: Mozilla has been clarifying some of its plans to convert the Firefox OS project into four IoT based projects. At a casual glance, this seems like a naive move that is doomed to failure. Project Link is a 'user agent' for the smart home, that helps the end user set preferences for device interaction, and automates those connections for the user in a secure environment. Next, Project Sensor Web will be a pilot project for crowdsourcing a pm2.5 sensor network. Project Smart Home is focused on bridging the gap in IoT smart home providers between completely boxed solutions like Apple HomeKit, and completely DIY solutions like Raspberry Pi. Finally, Project Vaani is a voice interface for IoT access, which Mozilla credits as the 'most natural way to interact with connected devices.' With Firefox losing market share and projects like Firefox OS, Thunderbird, Shumway, and Persona closing down, perhaps Mozilla should try and find its way back to core concerns. All four of the projects need significant AI expertise and a powerful cloud computing resource neither of which Mozilla is likely to be able to afford.

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  1. mozilla distracted to death by sittingnut · · Score: 5, Insightful

    what are people in charge of mozilla thinking ? or can they even think ?
    they are ultra concerned with everything other than their core project, which has suffered and is losing.
    it is not just related peripherals, but what amounts completely different things which should be handled as completely separate projects with groups and resources set up for them, if there is a need.
    nor is that all, mozilla is way too much concerned with pandering to market hype (hype not market reality as represented by numbers) and spout out the latest buzz words and social ideology of the western 'liberal' elite.

    shame!

    1. Re:mozilla distracted to death by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > what are people in charge of mozilla thinking ? or can they even think ?
      > they are ultra concerned with everything other than their core project, which has suffered and is losing.
      > it is not just related peripherals, but what amounts completely different things which should be handled as completely separate projects with groups and resources set up for them, if there is a need.

      That's exactly the point. People have penetrated and co-opted Mozilla to redirect it's resources towards their own pet projects. Mozilla has become their own little cookie jar.

    2. Re:mozilla distracted to death by narcc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Pocket isn't a Mozilla project. FireFoxOS is important for a litany of reasons you've already heard countless times. IoT is a natural evolution of FXOS which is why it's such a shame to see FXOS for smartphones being moved to a community project.

      As for dicking with the UI, that's the most foolish complaint I've ever heard. The move to Australis brought with it far more customization options than the browser ever had before, all while a few vocal Slashdot users cried that they wanted their customization back. As for Mozilla " constantly dicking with the UI", that's just ridiculous. There have been no significant changes since Australis. If it really bugs you, just install the Classic Theme Restorer add-on. Though I don't know why you'd want the old UI everyone complained about before complaining about Australis. As to your complaint about multiprocess support, e10s has been moving along just fine. I have it enabled now.

      As for regular users caring about e10s and the UI, well, that's just pure delusion. An overwhelming majority of users won't even notice the minor UI tweeks since Australis, and have little hope of understanding what multiprocess support even means. Though I wonder how Chrome would be doing if it didn't come bundled with a host of popular apps while also setting itself as the default browser. The UI is very similar, after all, so if the UI were a serious problem, you'd think Chrome wouldn't have gained much share on that basis alone. It's not like it's the winner on performance these days; its primary advantage is long gone. Or are you suggesting most users really, really, want multiprocess support so badly that they'll overlook the UI, poor performance, and privacy issues?

      Mozilla is very important to the web. Rather than bashing them needlessly in some weird attempt to hasten their demise, how about you find some real (as opposed to imagined) criticisms or, better yet, contribute yourself. Do you really want to let the future of the web be decided by Google and Microsoft? We had a similar war once. Everyone lost.

  2. We don't want to be negative about Mozilla. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We don't want to have to be negative about Mozilla. We love the concept of Mozilla. We love what Mozilla once was, years ago. We loved them when they produced the best web browser around. But then they went and threw it all away.

    They turned Firefox into a really shitty imitation of Chrome. Each new release somehow manages to be worse than the last.

    They pretty much gave up on Thunderbird.

    They've failed with one stupid idea after another. I mean, Firefox OS?! Really?! How the fuck did they ever hope to succeed with a slow, shitty mobile OS that was more primitive than even the initial versions of Android and iOS were, years before?!

    Servo is going nowhere. Seriously, try it out if you haven't already. It's nowhere near usable.

    Rust is pathetic. It has the worst programming language community I've ever experienced. They have a goddamn moderation team, for crying out loud! No other programming language community has its own Staatssicherheit like Rust has.

    Then there's all the social justice nonsense. Their former CEO lost his job merely because of his views about marriage, for crying out loud! Nobody should lose their job over something like that, especially when it comes to an organization that's supposedly so about "openness" and "tolerance" and "diversity".

    We want the old Mozilla back. We want the pre-hipster Mozilla back. We want the Mozilla that produced a highly usable and very extensible web browser that worked well for beginners and power users alike. We want the Mozilla that produced one of the better email clients. We want the Mozilla that made us happy with each new release of their software. We want the real Mozilla back!

  3. Re:GOD FUCKING DAMN IT, MOZILLA! by Zedrick · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What's wrong with modding up posts one agrees with? FF was once a great browser, but started going downhill with the introduction of the "awesome bar", and is by now almost useless. If Mozilla fixes Firefox and makes it usable again, perhaps people will stop modding up rants about hos much it sucks, which it does. Not that complicated?

  4. who cares about obsolete junk like FF anyways? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    SJW's need a new project to infect.