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Wayland Isn't Ready For the Fedora 24 Desktop (phoronix.com)
An anonymous reader writes: There was much hope that Fedora 24 would be the first major Linux distribution using Wayland by default in place of an X.Org Server, that didn't pan out with Fedora 24 Workstation developers deciding not to use Wayland by default but it will remain a log-in time option. Fedora Wayland has made a lot of progress but functionality like on-screen keyboard, accessibility, remote displays, USB display hot-plugging, and other functionality is incomplete for the Fedora 24 timeline. At least there are many other Fedora 24 features that made it for this next release due out in June. Wayland will turn eight years old this year.
Nothing stops you from running an X server on top of Wayland. That's what the Mac people are doing with XQuartz, they don't run X for their local apps but nothing stops them from running remote X apps. Sure GNU/Linux users should be able to do the same under Wayland.
What I love about X is the flexibility one gets, which is unparalleled by any other system: I can easily start a window of an application running on another host on my machine, works fine if I am logged into that other machine using ssh. I can tunnel a whole session through sse usinv VNC and use the remote desktop directly on my local one. It supports mutliple monitors spanning one desktop or several desktop on several monitors.
Does Wayland support these things too?
For example, how do you use remote windows or something like VNC on either of those right out of the box?
I can't speak to the Mac, because I choose not to waste money, but on Windows it couldn't be much easier. You can send remote assistance requests, or you can open up direct access for RDC. Either way, RDC uses RDP, which is a pretty damned good protocol by most accounts, and which is extremely tolerant of low-bandwidth connections.
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This is a core feature of X11, but it hasn't worked since X11R5
WTF is this shit? This FUD has been cropping up on every wayland thread recently. It is outright wronf. Remote windowing still works just fine. It did not stop working in X11R5. This is easily verified.
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We run over 150 [Linux based] thin clients using X11R7, and before than, on X11R6. And being thin, that means remoting the ENTIRE DESKTOP SESSION- window manager, clients, everything. And those client apps come from various places on various servers, sometimes even the local machine.
Now, this is a *BUSINESS* environment.... we are not trying to push video games, music, or movies through X11. That won't work well. But Firefox, LibreOffice, Clawsmail, GIMP, Pluma, Inkscape, Pidgin, PDF viewers/writers, etc, and all our AP/GL/AR/Payroll/etc work just dandy.