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Wayland Isn't Ready For the Fedora 24 Desktop (phoronix.com)

An anonymous reader writes: There was much hope that Fedora 24 would be the first major Linux distribution using Wayland by default in place of an X.Org Server, that didn't pan out with Fedora 24 Workstation developers deciding not to use Wayland by default but it will remain a log-in time option. Fedora Wayland has made a lot of progress but functionality like on-screen keyboard, accessibility, remote displays, USB display hot-plugging, and other functionality is incomplete for the Fedora 24 timeline. At least there are many other Fedora 24 features that made it for this next release due out in June. Wayland will turn eight years old this year.

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  1. Re:Wayland, Rust, Servo, Perl 6, Diaspora by Cassini2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Replacing X is a big project. Sometimes it takes a while to generate something good.

    I'm not sure anyone has a good model for handling rewrites of massive projects. The experiences of KDE 4.0 and Gnome 3.0 come to mind. Eventually, they were better, but it takes some time with a massive upgrade like that.

    The other issue is that User's often have a very good idea of what they don't like. However, bulimic criticism does not help to refine a software product. It just splits the ecosystem. Ultimately the user's need to use their computer, and the new software just isn't ready. So the developer's and user's go in different directions.

    Closed source isn't the solution either: with Windows 8, Microsoft split it's ecosystem. Windows 10 hasn't fixed the split (yet).

  2. Re:Wayland, Rust, Servo, Perl 6, Diaspora by markdavis · · Score: 4, Informative

    +1

    We run over 150 [Linux based] thin clients using X11R7, and before than, on X11R6. And being thin, that means remoting the ENTIRE DESKTOP SESSION- window manager, clients, everything. And those client apps come from various places on various servers, sometimes even the local machine.

    Now, this is a *BUSINESS* environment.... we are not trying to push video games, music, or movies through X11. That won't work well. But Firefox, LibreOffice, Clawsmail, GIMP, Pluma, Inkscape, Pidgin, PDF viewers/writers, etc, and all our AP/GL/AR/Payroll/etc work just dandy.