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San Bernadino D.A. Says Shooter's Phone Could Harbor "Cyber Pathogen" (theguardian.com)

Mr.Intel writes with the Guardian's report that : San Bernadino D.A. has a novel argument for why Apple should be forced to provide the FBI with tools to decrypt the iPhone once used by mass-shooter Syed Rizwan Farook: a "dormant cyber pathogen," he says, could have been unleashed by the county's electronic infrastructure, and only by examining the phone's content can any really be sure. From the article: The questionable claim comes from Ramos's amicus brief in the case, filed with the US District Court on Thursday afternoon. In it, Ramos supports the FBI's argument that Apple should be compelled to build a one-use version of its operating system to load on to the seized phone – used by the mass-murderer, but still technically property of his employer, San Bernardino county – in order to weaken the security and allow the Government to brute-force the shooter's passcode. ... Ramos said: 'The iPhone is a county owned telephone that may have connected to the San Bernardino County computer network. The seized iPhone may contain evidence that can only be found on the seized phone that it was used as a weapon to introduce a lying dormant cyber pathogen that endangers San Bernardino County's infrastructure and poses a continuing threat to the citizens of San Bernardino County'.

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  1. Old News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    San Bernardino D.A. admitted he made the whole thing up.

  2. Link to news this is made up by davidwr · · Score: 5, Informative

    Link to Ars Technica version of original story, which was updated to say that it is a non-issue: http://arstechnica.com/tech-po...

    Link to Ars Technica story on the fact that the first story was false: http://arstechnica.com/tech-po...

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  3. Re:Yesterday's retracted news by sumdumass · · Score: 5, Informative

    Think of a computer illiterate trying to sound as smart as possible talking about a virus for the first time. If you substitute "trojan virus" for "lying dormant cyber pathogen", it sounds a lot more realistic.

  4. Terrorists, drug dealers, and pedophiles by phorm · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yup. Terrorists kill people. Drug dealers kill people or deal drugs which kill people. Pedophiles abuse children.

    And you know what, the authorities and governments fucking LOVE to use those guys to create or abuse laws in order to give themselves new and expanded powers. We already know that there's not just one phone, but at least 17 other cases where they're asking for pretty much the same fucking thing (and none of those terrorists). All they need is a nice precedent and a year from now they'll be using it break open the phones of everyone charged slightly above littering or jaywalking. It'll also be very helpful when they seize mobile devices at those ever-growing "borders" from pesky reporters or political types.

    The authorities have already said they don't really know that there's anything useful on the phone (but we have to do everything, just in case). Given the wiretaps and other B.S. they've already been pulling, it's probably also a safe bet that most of it (if not all) they have already. But evidence gathered through illegal clandestine means can't be used in court, so you've gotta set a precedent for a nice new "legal" method.

    Sorry, but I applaud Apple for taking a strong stance on this, unlike the fuckers at Amazon who decided the best way to deal with the issue is to preemptively remove device-encryption with their latest (mandatory) update.

  5. Re:Yesterday's retracted news by tlambert · · Score: 5, Informative

    Even though the whole "pathogen" thing is retarded beyond belief, if it is truly county property, then IMO it's a no brainer to let the government access it.

    Of course.

    The government should have their most excellent programmers access it. No one wants to prevent the government from accessing something they have permission to access. So their most excellent programmers should do an end run around Large Number Theory, and magically access it.

    Or they could just apply to a FISA court for a warrant, and ask the NSA for the data, since the NSA PRISM program monitors the communications that would have been used to back up things like the address book in the first place.

    No need to involve Apple at all!

  6. Re:Yesterday's retracted news by Trax3001BBS · · Score: 2, Informative

    Asians will see a pile of shit on the ground and the first thing that pops into their heads is "Can I eat that?"

    Gelatin blood cubes, century eggs, dogs, cats, monkey brains, elephant feet, tarantulas...there is nothing that asians won't stick into their mouths.

    I've lived in the Philippines, the family invited to many Filipino parties which included a feast of food, nothing there I wouldn't eat except Balut (your century eggs). Yet the eggs seen as quite a delicacy.

    Rats, yes at carnival's they came flayed on a stick and eaten as a treat. Again something I've never given a try.

    Cats, can't say, they are rather rare and can't I remember seeing any.

    Monkey brains, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... says it's a tribal thing. I've never heard of them as food outside of a tv program that made it seem a rare and expensive indulgence.

    Dogs, yes as a boy scout in the Philippines a yearly event was to walk 50 miles of the Bataan death march, during which I've seen a few dogs laid out being butchered. I've lived all over the world (Air Force dependent) in many Asian/non-Asian countries I see dog as a dietary main stay when they can be found, or raised.

    As I understand it there's no nutritional value in poop, so more energy eating it than it provides. Plus the sanitary facilities make it rather hard to acquire.

    The rest of your list (elephant feet, tarantulas (spiders)) I can imagine them being eaten, but not by the general populous as they aren't common but to a small area.

    A tribe in Central America eat huge spiders common in that area, they toss them into a fire and turn till done (History channel).

  7. Re: Yesterday's retracted news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    The ritual of having a daily morning bath has been practiced for thousands of years by the "hindu" people of India. The western practice of having a daily shower/bath is relatively quite recent .

    Smelly perfume however is a western invention.

  8. Re: Naked Picture of Trump and Christie by lucm · · Score: 1, Informative

    So you're saying that Fox News is actually a sketch comedy show and not a news channel?

    Yes, and just like dimwitted liberals believe SNL skits (like the "I see Russia from my kitchen window" one), dimwitted conservatives believe Bill O'Reilly when he basically says that disagreeing with him is anti-american. Same same.

    Did you see that youtube video where they ask liberals where they take their news? Most popular answers: "Not Fox", Jon Stewart and Bill Maher.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    Yep, those people vote on your side.

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  9. Re:Yesterday's retracted news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Balut is not the same as century eggs.
    Balut is an egg where the embryo is allowed to grow until almost ready to hatch.
    Century egg is an egg that has been chemically treated so that the proteins are altered.