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France's Oldest Nuclear Plant To Close This Year (phys.org)

mdsolar writes: France is to close down its oldest nuclear power plant, at the center of a row with neighboring Germany and Switzerland, by the end of this year, a green minister said Sunday. "The timeline is one the president has repeated to me several times, it's 2016," said Emmanuelle Cosse, who was named to President Francois Hollande's cabinet last month, referring to the Fessenheim plant. Cosse was speaking to French media after a row sparked Friday when Germany demanded that France close down Fessenheim following reports that a 2014 incident there was worse than earlier portrayed. France's Nuclear Safety Agency said that safety at the plant was "overall satisfactory" but that the government's energy policy "could lead to different choices" regarding the facility, which is near the German and Swiss borders. It said there was "no need" to shut the plant from a nuclear safety point of view. France has promised to cut reliance on nuclear energy from more than 75 percent to 50 percent by shutting 24 reactors by 2025, while stepping up reliance on renewable energy.

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  1. Re:So.... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Informative

    The French have big problems with nuclear power at the moment. The biggest company running their nuclear fleet, EDF, is in serious trouble. It has plants being built in other European countries that are way, way over budget, and is now looking likely to back out of building the two new reactors at Hinkley Point in the UK.

    The basic problem is cost. EDF has a number of old reactors that need decommissioning and replacing. The new reactors are turning out to be extremely expensive. The pair in the UK are projected to cost £18bn ($26bn) but the identical ones they already started on are approximately 3x over budget and massively delayed.

    So EDF is faced with massive costs from old reactors and a need to borrow massive amounts of money to build the new ones. Even the guarantee from the UK government to pay way, way over the odds for the electricity generated isn't enough any more. The French government was trying to reduce it's stake in EDF, but has recently had to switch to buying up shares again just to keep the lights on.

    On top of all that, their neighbours are building a lot of renewable energy that really pushes prices down. Peak pricing used to be a massive earner for EDF, but now Germany is exporting extremely cheap energy during those times. EDF doesn't want to adapt, can't really adapt because all its cash is tied up in failing nuclear projects.

    They should have fixed the roof while the sun was shining, and installed some solar panels at the same time.

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  2. Not the oldest and not the first to close by Anonyme+Connard · · Score: 4, Informative

    France's oldest nuclear plant is Brennilis. It ran from 1967 to 1985. It is still not fully decommissioned, this work being more complex and more expensive than foreseen...
    And there is also Superphénix, running from 1986 to 1996 and far more complex to dismantle, because of plutonium and sodium.

  3. Re:Nukes rule by prefec2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    They will not build a new one. First, Germany is super annoyed that they withheld information on an accident in the plant, as Germany would directly suffer from the consequences if the plant goes Fukushima. Second, EDF tries to build a new nuclear plant in the UK (Hinkley Point C). Their government is totally behind it. Unfortunately, the EDF finance director resigned as he sees the plant to be a economic disaster (the union also think it is stupid and will cost jobs) http://www.theguardian.com/env...

    Therefore, it is not very plausible that they will build a new reactor anywhere.

  4. Rubbish by prefec2 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Fessenheim is an old plant which had many accidents in recent years. For example they had to introduce large quantities of Bohr into the reactor cooling to inhibit chain reaction because they were unable to insert the regulator rods. Yes I know Bohr is also used during regular operation. However, in much lower quantities. They also neglected to report all details which would have been necessary for Germany to prepare in case of an accident. Fessenheim is directly at the border to Germany.

    1. Re:Rubbish by prefec2 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sorry, associative error. I meant Boron, and to be more correct I refer to boronic acid. In German Boron is called Bor (and so it was substituted by Bohr).
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  5. Re:Tell the Germans to fuck off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    To be precise there is a non-zero distance between that reactor and germany, as the reactor isn't built at the shores of the rhine itself, but inside a channel built parralel to the rhine. There is an island around 1km wide between the reactor and germany. But it won't help all the people living in those german cities Speyer (with its great cathedral) Mannheim Mainz Koblenz Bonn (which was the german capital for a long time and now there are still lots of ministries and governmental employees) Cologne (which has over one million residents) Düsseldorf and Duisburg... They all live downstream and will get the radiating shit from fessenheim if there is a leak. Its at least 2 million germans directly affected.

  6. The Swiss want Fessenhiem to close ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Fessenhiem is near Strasbourg and no where near Switerland. I think you find the Swiss want to close the nuclear plant at Bugey (see the story in french), and the luxembourgeois would surely like the plant at Cattenom to close.

  7. Renewables cheaper than nuclear by far by mdsolar · · Score: 1, Informative

    Renewables are much much less expensive than nuclear power. That is why France is ending plans to replace it's fleet and opting for a phase out. http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/pa...

  8. Re:Nukes rule by AlterEager · · Score: 1, Informative

    I have seen values for Germany up to 13 t CO2 per capita. While this sucks big time, one third is produced by traffic, another third is from heating

    So what? France doesn't have road traffic and heating?

    Furthermore, we have many lignite coal power plants which are actually obsolete and could be shutdown without any trouble. It would even improve grid stability, as we would have less excess capacity (http://www.dw.com/en/the-end-of-lignite-coal-for-power-in-germany/a-18806081).

    So do it already.

    France has been generating 80-90% of it's electricity from low carbon sources since the 1990's and you expect kudos for thinking about maybe closing down some fucking lignite burning power plants at some undefined time between now and 2020.

    Saturday's agreement on closing 2.7 GW of German lignite power plants will reduce electricity from lignite there by 13%

    Oh, fucking great, you're proud that they're going to close 13% of the lignite burning plants. Yipee!. And no mention of the hard coal burning plants.

    Just look at the stats from https://www.energy-charts.de/p.... Germany's electricity in January 2016 was 7.5GW biomass constant (PM10/PM25 hell), 10GW nuclear constant, around 12GW brown coal, hard coal varying between 0 and 20GW, Gas between 0 and 12GW and renewables for the rest.

    It's filthy.

    Are we going to have more high particulate pollution days this summer when the wind happens to be blowing from Germany? How many people are being killed every year by the air pollution from your biomass and coal plants? 10's of Chernobyl's a year? 100's? 1000's?