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This Was America's Warmest Winter On Record (slate.com)

Posted by BeauHD on from the guinness-world-records dept.

hondo77 writes: On Tuesday, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration released its official assessment of December, January, and February's temperatures across the United States, and the results are striking: Not a single state in the U.S. had a cooler than average winter. (NOAA treats Alaska and Hawaii separately, due to shorter weather data records there -- though both states were significantly warmer than normal this winter. Weather records for the contiguous United States go back to 1895.) NOAA blames the recent warm weather on a record-strength El Nino "and other climate patterns," most notably, global warming. As a whole, this winter in the lower 48 was about 4.6 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than the 20th century average: a sharp contrast to the previous back-to-back frigid polar vortex winters, especially in the Northeast.

12 of 446 comments (clear)

  1. I shoveled a fuckton of snow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Just saying. Take the global warming bs and shove it up your ass.

    1. Re:I shoveled a fuckton of snow. by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: -1, Troll

      You mean except for the 10 warmest years on record?That "bs"?
      The term for people who play the conspiracy theor is 1 D 10 T

    2. Re:I shoveled a fuckton of snow. by Hylandr · · Score: 0, Troll

      You mean to tell me I should believe the people that are claiming to predict what our environment will look like in 10 years when they can't even predict the weather for the next 10 days?

      --
      ~ People that think they are better than anyone else for any reason are the cause of all the strife in the world.
    3. Re:I shoveled a fuckton of snow. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1, Troll

      Global warming has nothing to do with how much snow is in your driveway, the snow in your driveway this year is "weather", not "climate". Measure it over the next decade, then get back to us.

      That's the old way of looking at it. Now it's:
      1. If there is less snow this year, it proves warming.
      2. If there is more snow this year, it proves warming.

    4. Re:I shoveled a fuckton of snow. by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: -1, Troll

      As opposed to the Kochsuckers paid by Exxon and Shell and BP and Koch?
      Paid, we may add, FAR more Institutionalizing Delay, Drexel University to LIE

    5. Re:I shoveled a fuckton of snow. by Hylandr · · Score: 1, Troll

      The only real takeaway from this is that Climate change and the controversy surrounding it will exist so long as there's money to be made from it.

      --
      ~ People that think they are better than anyone else for any reason are the cause of all the strife in the world.
    6. Re:I shoveled a fuckton of snow. by QQBoss · · Score: 1, Troll

      Just saying. Take the global warming bs and shove it up your ass.

      Global warming has nothing to do with how much snow is in your driveway, the snow in your driveway this year is "weather", not "climate". Measure it over the next decade, then get back to us.

      Only a decade? So the 18 year warming hiatus (which may or may not extend even further into the future as the current El Nino comes to a close and a La Nina probably takes over) while CO2 climbed to historic (modern history, not prehistoric) heights IS enough to demonstrate the non-validity of AGW for you? Good to know.

  2. Only if you ignore the data that contradicts that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Read how the Earth was cooling off back in 1977 in the PEER-REVIEWED, PUBLISHED paper from, errrr, NOAA:

    Global Temperature Variation, Surface - 100mb : an Update into 1977

    Anyone who says there wasn't a global cooling scare back then is a fucking liar.

  3. Which Record? by laing · · Score: -1, Troll

    The historical temperature records have been undergoing continuous revision. Isn't this more a case of the revised records creating a new record, rather than in fact being the warmest or coldest anything?

  4. They don't go back beyond the coldest they find by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Yep. Cherry picking data.

    "This data from the last 40 years shows the earth warming like crazy! (Give us more grant money!)"

    "So, what happens if we look at the same data set, but go back 90 years?"

    "Errrr, ummm, ahhhh. You see, that old data doesn't matter. People back then didn't know how to properly take temperatures, so we've had to, errr, umm, correct that old data so it more closely reflects what the real temperatures were back then."

    "ORLY? So you know what the real temperatures back then were better than the scientists and meteorologists who actually took the temps?.

    "Damn right we do. (If we didn't know, you wouldn't give us grant money - and the UN wouldn't be behind a massive wealth-redistribution scheme to give money to the large number of poor countries that control the UN. Nevermind the fact we can also bash white, Western European culture!)"

    "Christ on a crutch."

  5. The scientific method.. by thesupraman · · Score: -1, Troll

    Except for the small fact that so far their models have proven to be very very wrong.
    Until they can show any form of prediction, iterative models are garbage.
    And no, iterative models cannot be wrong in the 5 year timeframe, but right in the longer term (except by sheer chance), because errors are cumulative.

    All pretty much scientific method 101 here kids.

  6. Re:Stop arguing about the details... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Base-load power in the entire country would have gone all Nuclear decades ago if it wasn't for all the lobbying from hippy liberal groups against it. Now those same hippy liberals want to do away with coal. Make up your friggin' minds!