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NASA Begins Planning the First Human Mission To Cislunar Space (blastingnews.com)

MarkWhittington writes: With the first launch of the heavy-lift Space Launch System drawing nigh (for no later than November 2018), NASA is already trying to plan the first crewed space mission beyond low-Earth orbit for the early 2020s. However, budget uncertainties plus a couple of congressional mandates are causing uncertainty for the launch manifest for the SLS.

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  1. cis lunar??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    oh no no no that wont do. we need trans lunar in the name of equality

    1. Re:cis lunar??? by michelcolman · · Score: 1

      No, "CIS" is the Commonwealth of Independent States. Apparently they have started a colony on the moon and now NASA is planning a humanitarian mission. There's a typo in the title.

    2. Re:cis lunar??? by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

      oh no no no that wont do. we need trans lunar in the name of equality

      Just call a spade a spade or in this instance Lagrange 4 & Lagrange 5

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    3. Re:cis lunar??? by vel-ex-tech · · Score: 2

      As the resident expert on all things cis and trans, I'm way ahead of you, AC!

      May I recommend Hyperion and The Fall of Hyperion?

    4. Re:cis lunar??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TRIGGERED

    5. Re:cis lunar??? by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      Funny, I brought up that series last week on some article about a hyperion where the kids were trying to equate it to be about Borderlands like that is the first usage of the proper name...

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  2. Cislunar space. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    I hear 100 cis white males have already signed up...

  3. Check your FUCKING Privilige! by CajunArson · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm tired of your male patriatriachal capitalist hetero lunarism. We demand trans-lunar rights NOW!

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    1. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by reboot246 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Check your spelling! The word is privilege.

      But I would mod your post funny if I had any points.

    2. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by CajunArson · · Score: 5, Insightful

      My next social justice crusade is against the white male patriarchy of correct spelling and grammar.

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    3. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by Potor · · Score: 1

      It's a great word - "private law (privi-lege)." That's how I remember how to spell it...

    4. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Informative

      The whole abuse of the term 'cis' has always been awkward as all heck. Set it down to SJWs being overly PC who don't want to say "normal people" and "transsexuals".

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    5. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      die cislunar scum!

    6. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by aliquis · · Score: 1

      The problem with matriactic negroid communist flight is that it never would just result in crap.

    7. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by currently_awake · · Score: 1

      We need to update the outer space treaty to allow colonies. Once that happens we can start planning manned inter-planetary missions. Inter-planetary colonies and asteroid mining are the only two missions people are willing to pay for, and the Republicans would never allow NASA to compete with private enterprise for the mining riches.

    8. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by Shatrat · · Score: 1

      F7 is a micro-aggression.

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    9. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      It is politically correct to blame things on political correctness.

    10. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      I am surprised to see that post coming from you. I agree though, cisgender has always seemed odd to me.

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    11. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Try telling that to the PC brigade ... :-)

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    12. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      I can understand your surprise, but keep in mind that proper terminology was appropriated from us by the LGBT movement, so that they could "normalize" cross-dressing fetishes and other activities that are not related to transsexualism. So today we have this weird alphabet soup, where transgender can mean anything. The whole "cis" thing never came from us either.

      It's also why more and more of us are telling the gays to kindly f*ck off. It's really annoying when they show up in discussions among transsexuals, trying to tell us how we feel, what we really are, and what we should do. They just won't park their "gay privilege". The latest example was 2 days ago.

      So this gay guy comes into the discussion and stirs a whole mess up - completely off topic. Repeatedly dead-naming Caitlyn Jenner (the use of someone's previous name) and referring to her as a "he." Didn't matter that we all told him he was a total asshole to do that, he insisted that it was the right thing to do, and his right. Even though every woman in the group was telling him that this is the great taboo (well, that and outing someone). After all, as a gay man he knows better than us. Same as a gay cross-dresser who called us all men in dresses a week or two earlier (while claiming to be one of us - I outed the bastard- when you pull that sort of crap, the gloves kind of have to come off). Same as yet another one who thought that we should be thankful for their including drag queens in pride floats.

      That's not a unique attitude, btw. Many of those who claim to speak for us hold us in not-so-secret contempt. It's like they think we're really just extreme cross-dressers. They also have no problem throwing us under the bus when it comes to legislation that would be held up if transsexuals were included, while putting out press releases about the injustices done to us when they want attention and MONEY.

      So no, I'm not going to use a made-up term by a group that does not have my best interests at heart. I told him to check his f*cking gay privilege. And to f*ck off. And that was one of the more polite responses he got from us.

      The purpose of words is to communicate. Using made-up terms that aren't even accurate to describe the reality is like the jargon that computer folks use - it creates a wall, a barrier of understanding. I tried using "cis-gendered" once, and drew a total blank to the people I was explaining things to. I'd rather communicate than obfuscate. :-)

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    13. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Nobody has ever really explained to me why people like you should be lumped into a sexual orientation group. I've been told there are good reasons, but they've never been forthcoming. Also, trying to normalize transvestites by lumping them in with transsexuals seems weird to me.

      (Personally, I figure that if I have any business worrying about somebody else's chromosomes and genitalia, I really should be in very close terms with that somebody, and comfortable with talking about such things. In all other cases, I prefer addressing people as they want to be addressed.)

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    14. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by slashdotwannabe · · Score: 1

      I can understand your surprise, but keep in mind that proper terminology was appropriated from us by the LGBT movement, so that they could "normalize" cross-dressing fetishes and other activities that are not related to transsexualism. So today we have this weird alphabet soup, where transgender can mean anything. The whole "cis" thing never came from us either.

      Did Teh Gayz make up Latin as well?

      Seriously, your distain for the term "cisgender" comes from the fact that you think Gay People came up with it (Got a cite?), rather than the fact that it is the Latin antonym for "trans"? Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

      I'm sure not going to disagree that gay people happily throw trans people under the bus, and that the only thing trans folks have in common with the rest of the alphabet soup is the oppression they share, but honestly, "cisgender" is the battle you choose to fight? All those bathroom bills the GOP is lining up to drive their culture warriors to the polls in November don't seem a bit more pressing to you? Do you never have to pee in a public restroom or something?

      The purpose of words is to communicate. Using made-up terms that aren't even accurate to describe the reality is like the jargon that computer folks use - it creates a wall, a barrier of understanding. I tried using "cis-gendered" once, and drew a total blank to the people I was explaining things to. I'd rather communicate than obfuscate.

      Fair point. I got the same reaction when I made reference to NaCl today. But then, I simply told them that NaCl=table salt. I didn't dumb down the language I used for the sake of a less-educated person. I educated them.

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    15. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by slashdotwannabe · · Score: 1

      Nobody has ever really explained to me why people like you should be lumped into a sexual orientation group.

      They share no sexual orientation; it isn't a "sexual orientation group". The "T" is lumped together with the LGBIQ into a political group, because they do share common oppressions, and politically speaking it is far easier for larger groups to move the needle than smaller groups. (Note that Intersex and Queer folks are not a "sexual orientation" either).

      Also, trying to normalize transvestites by lumping them in with transsexuals seems weird to me.

      That it seems "weird to you" is the very explanation you seek. That you still use the term "normal" as a synonym for "healthy", (which implies the antonym of "abnormal", with its associated synonyms of "unhealthy"/"icky"/"evil"/etc.) is the explanation you seek. In the USA, those who rebel against cultural norms are generally respected, even revered... except when those cultural norms are gender norms. Then those rebels are "abnormal", or "defective". Why do you suppose that is? Why do you suppose the majority gives two shits at all?

      (Personally, I figure that if I have any business worrying about somebody else's chromosomes and genitalia, I really should be in very close terms with that somebody, and comfortable with talking about such things. In all other cases, I prefer addressing people as they want to be addressed.)

      Cool. I wouldn't worry about the other shit too much unless and until such a person comes into your life. Until then, IMO you've just articulated the most important point.

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    16. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Transvestites are sexually excited by their fetish so sure, lump them with the LGB. They're free to do whatever they want, and we should all keep an open mind about it. However, transsexuals and intersexed have zero to do with sexual behavior, which is the common attribute that groups lesbians, gays, bisexuals, and drag queens / transvestites.

      They just do't get it.

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    17. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Think for two seconds. As you say, cis is latin for trans - so how are normal people somehow labeled the equivalent of trans-gendered? Like I said, we never used it until the gay rights movement assimilated us. Now we're kicking back. We've always supported their rights, but enough is enough - we're long overdue for a divorce.

      The bathroom bills will fail in court. Also, it's going to be extremely hard to apply in practice. The first trans-male that is forced to enter the girls washroom will get SO many complaints that they really should be in the boy's room. This is just the law of unintended consequences in action. That's why many of us are actually laughing at the "bathroom bill" nut cases.

      Also, how are they going to enforce this on an adult? And what's going to happen when they try to on a post-op and insist on looking in her panties? Hey, nice lawsuit you got there ... and that's if they get a court to issue a search warrant. Ludicrous.

      And no, the battle isn't being fought over the term cisgender. It's because we are not the same as gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transvestites - there's a big difference between sexual activity and gender identity based on brain structure. But nice try to reframe the question. Ain't going to work. They've screwed us over too many times, and their ways, such as protests, are not our ways.

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    18. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by slashdotwannabe · · Score: 1

      Transvestites are sexually excited by their fetish so sure, lump them with the LGB. They're free to do whatever they want, and we should all keep an open mind about it. However, transsexuals and intersexed have zero to do with sexual behavior,

      Sure; transvestites have different motivations than transsexuals or intersexed people. Sometimes their kink is "autogynephilia". So? How is that my business? Who are they hurting? Besides, sometimes those "transvestites" are simply transsexuals who haven't figured it out. Their sexual charge comes from the subversiveness of defying gender norms that don't fit them, at least until they transition. Then it's just getting dressed.

      I don't "get them", and I "don't care". The last time I checked, they're still covered by the Constitution, and that's where my concern ends. I stand on the side of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights; if ANY oppressed people want to come in under the ITQBLG umbrella, I'll welcome them. I don't care about their sexual proclivities and the similarities between any of those two letters are ridiculously arbitrary anyway. I'm here to protect their Constitutional rights, because that's the only thing that gives me moral authority to demand MY Constitutional rights.

      They just do't get it.

      Of course they don't. Asking a person who isn't trans to try to understand it is like trying to ask a blind guy to understand a rainbow or the Mona Lisa. They simply aren't equipped to understand.

      That said, I don't give a shit if they "understand". Just don't be an dick. That's not hard to do; it isn't a big ask.

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    19. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Autogynephilia has been debunked. It was created with no evidence by Ray Blanchard, who interpreted other's behavior though the lens of his in-the-closet gayness.

      Sure, transvestites are free to do whatever they want - except try to tell us how we should act, and that we're just like them - men in dresses. Just because they get their thrills from dressing like women doesn't mean they're like us in any way.

      They've been acting like dicks for ages, and we want a divorce.

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    20. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by slashdotwannabe · · Score: 1

      Autogynephilia has been debunked.

      It's usage as a clinical description of someone who is ineligible for transition services has been certainly debunked. The definition of the word ("a male who gets a sexual thrill from cross-dressing") remains, and this is how I used it. Just because it has lost its clinical value does not mean it has lost its descriptive value, and indeed, this is how derisive words are reclaimed. Also, remember that Dr. Blanchard coined the phrase to replace the infinitely-more-destructive "transvestic fetishism" which was in wide use at the time. The word is fine; his mistake of concluding that it is the one and only possible cause of transsexualism is was caused the damage.

      who interpreted other's behavior though the lens of his in-the-closet gayness.

      Funny how gay dudes do that to transsexuals. Oh wait... it's not fucking funny at all. Blanchard's "research" single-handedly ruined countless lives and gave biased clinicians the excuse they needed to keep transexualism in the DSM for at least two more revisions. Or maybe not; it's not like they needed much if any excuse anyway. In any event, I do not view Dr. Blanchard as a monster; simply a man who made a big fucking mistake.

      Just because they get their thrills from dressing like women doesn't mean they're like us in any way.

      I never said transvestites have anything clinical in common with transsexuals; in fact, I've said the opposite. They do however, experience a common oppression.

      They've been acting like dicks for ages

      Actually, I was talking about cisgender folks. It wasn't transvestites that murdered Monica Loera or Nadine Stranse. It was cisgender people, and it was cisgender people who beat Jacie Leopold to within an inch of her life, refused to take a police report or prosecute the offenders and threatened to sue her for defamation for publicizing the event.

      and we want a divorce.

      I'm sorry, but who appointed you to be spokeswoman for all transsexuals?

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    21. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by slashdotwannabe · · Score: 1

      Think for two seconds. As you say, cis is latin for trans - so how are normal people somehow labeled the equivalent of trans-gendered?

      I said no such thing. Read for two seconds. I said exactly the opposite. TRANS is the Latin root for "on the other side of"; "CIS" it its antonym, and means "the same side". It means what it means; who brought it into common usage is irrelevant, and in any event, you have yet to present any evidence that it was gay people who brought the term into wide usage in reference to gender. Also, if you're opposed to the term "cisgender" what to you propose to replace it?

      Now we're kicking back. We've always supported their rights, but enough is enough - we're long overdue for a divorce.

      Do you have a mouse in your pocket? You seem to forget that for every homosexual antagonistic asshole, there are a hundred heterosexual antagonistic assholes. HRC may have thrown trans folks under the bus a dozen or so times, but they aren't calling for them to be stoned to death.

      The bathroom bills will fail in court.

      Care to share your crystal ball? I could use the winning Powerball tickets. You're missing the point. They don't give a fuck if they succeed or fail; their purpose is to drive culture warriors to vote in November. Do you honestly think that anyone in the GOP gives a flying fuck about where trans people pee? Even if I allow that they will fail (which I don't; if the next President is a Republican, the Justice department will refuse to pursue such types of discrimination), how many lives will be ruined in the meantime? How many people will be murdered?

      The first trans-male that is forced to enter the girls washroom will get SO many complaints that they really should be in the boy's room.

      You think that the average culture warrior thinks past the jerk of their knee! How adorable! No, they will not complain. They will murder. That's what they do. Joe Sixpack will not raise a principled objection to the presence of a Trans Man in the bathroom to his elected representative; he'll get his gun or his bat and kill someone. That's what they do.

      That's why many of us are actually laughing at the "bathroom bill" nut cases.

      Yea, it's funny alright. Until someone gets killed.

      Also, how are they going to enforce this on an adult?

      They don't CARE if or how it will get enforced.

      And what's going to happen when they try to on a post-op and insist on looking in her panties? Hey, nice lawsuit you got there

      Really? You think the average trans person is going to find justice in Bumfuck, Alabama? Jacie Leopold would like a word with you.

      And no, the battle isn't being fought over the term cisgender.

      Then why the hell did you bring it up? YOU BROUGHT IT UP.

      It's because we are not the same as gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transvestites - there's a big difference between sexual activity and gender identity based on brain structure

      Granted. But then, there's a big difference between me and the Asian dude who just dropped off my dinner. SO?

      But nice try to reframe the question

      I "reframed" nothing. I quoted your OWN WORDS. I think your psychological projection is better described as "nice try to evade the point".

      They've screwed us over too many times,

      Which "they" are you referring to? You seem to think that Teh Gayz are a single hive mind.

      and their ways, such as protests, are not our ways.

      Really? Check your history; the Stonewall Riots were started by a Transsexual, not a homosexual. And once again, who appointed you to speak for transsexuals?

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    22. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Nope. The DSM5 categorizes someone who gets a thrill out of crossdressing as having a transvestic disorder or paraphilia, including those who are diagnosed with "autogynephilia".Has nothing to do with transsexualism.

      Transsexualism in and of itself is no longer considered a disorder in the DSM5. Gender dysphora is no longer, in itself, considered a mental disorder. The problem is the stress caused by the discord between the gender one sees oneself as and the biological gender. It is that discord that is treated by hormones, transitioning, and various surgeries, which help resolve the conflict.

      Transsexuals and transvestites do not "experience a common oppression." A transvestite can always revert to his male role once he's satisfied his erotic needs. They can "hide in plain sight," doing their thing in the privacy of their home or at a gay bar, then resuming normal life. No need to let their kids, other family, friends, co-workers and employers, the bank, landlord, the neighbor next door, the license bureau/DMV, or anyone else they interact with daily in on their little secret, because it's only a temporary role.

      As far as I can tell, we don't know who killed either of them, so it appears your statement is more of an assumption, especially since many transsexuals are murdered by men who are suppressing their own homosexuality. BTW, the worldwide murder rate for transsexuals is far below the average, a fact that nobody wants to point out because it doesn't fit the victim story arc. Don't take my word for it - do the math.

      As far as wanting a divorce from the LGBT, who appointed you arbiter as to what we want. It's not just me, not by a long shot. We were socially acceptable back in the time of Christine Jorgensen, who appeared on magazine covers, gave talks, etc. That changed with the whole LGBT movement, which resorted to frequent incidents of violence (let's call them what they were - riots). Then we got hit by the moral majority because we were seen to be part of the LGB, rather than people with a medical condition. Now we're socially acceptable again - much more so than cross-dressers - and we don't need the hassles and confusion they bring to the table when people don't understand the basic difference.

      Also, damages to a car from an accident are a civil matter (an accident is not a criminal event) - the police don't have jurisdiction, and not filing a report is not uncommon. Not everything that happens to someone who is trans is because of being trans. They also don't generally allow the party any information they have on the other party because of privacy laws. And I seriously doubt the person who caused the accident did it on purpose because Jacqui was trans. Doesn't make it right, but it happens to everyone.

      When you know your co-workers and bosses actively hate people like you, you LEAVE. Or you come out and explain it to them, and see if they will accept it, or again, you LEAVE. And don't start with the "blaming the victim" sh*t - common sense beats political correctness, and the same advice would be good in any work situation where people hate you for any reason. If you can't fix it, you leave, or you have accepted the risks.

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    23. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      I may not have been clear. Barbara was the one who used the word "normalize", and I was agreeing with her that it seems odd. "Normal" has several definitions. I will admit to being a little weirded out when I first found out a close friend was lesbian, but when I realized that it just meant we had the same sexual orientation (both of us were attracted to women) it seemed to make more sense. (Not that I would turn away a friend for anything not morally reprehensible, of course.) Since then, I've learned that I'm happier with one little question before I worry about or condemn something: is it any of my business?

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    24. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      There is no "on the other side of" or "on the same side of", any more than you could apply the term to any other male and female. It's total nonsense. On the near side of what, exactly - "normal", "male", "female". Cisgender is a bogus made-up term. Transsexuals never used such terms among themselves or with their doctors. There is ZERO proof that transsexuals did, and yet there's lots of proof that transvestites, including many who are gay, wanted to legitimacy of transsexualism - hence the word transgender, and also cisgender.

      The stonewall riots were started by a gay transvestite - not a transsexual. Marsha P. Johnson was a drag queen, and Jack Daniel Whitehall (aka Jacqui Hormona) was also a gay man. Labeling them "transgender" has nothing to do with their being transsexual because they weren't, and it is exactly this sort of bullsh*t that we are fed up with - being tied into gay violence.

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    25. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by slashdotwannabe · · Score: 1

      Nope

      Nope what? As far as I can tell you've just restated my words and agreed with me. Nope what?

      Transsexuals and transvestites do not "experience a common oppression." A transvestite can always revert to his male role once he's satisfied his erotic needs.

      So then the transvestite is happy to divulge this information? Or feels the need to keep it hidden? Are you claiming that they would suffer no repercussions from disclosure? No? Then they are oppressed. Just because YOU don't feel sorry for them doesn't mean they aren't oppressed.

      As far as I can tell, we don't know who killed either of them, so it appears your statement is more of an assumption,

      Oh, so as far as YOU can tell? Those were just two examples. There are PLENTY of examples.

      BTW, the worldwide murder rate for transsexuals is far below the average, a fact that nobody wants to point out because it doesn't fit the victim story arc.

      Are you fucking KIDDING ME? Jebus Wept that's gotta be the most tone deaf thing I've ever heard. And you have the chutzpah to tell ME to "do the math"? I read their names every November. I know two that have been murdered. I know four that have been beaten. Of all of the hundreds of trans people I have interacted with, I know of ONE who has NOT been discriminated against in some way. I work with victims almost every goddamned day. I don't know what rock you live under, but I wish you'd come the fuck out and open your eyes. You're proving Hawking's dictum about ignorance.

      We were socially acceptable back in the time of Christine Jorgensen, who appeared on magazine covers, gave talks, etc.

      You think that because she gave talks she was accepted! How adorable! I'm sure the audience is only feeding the poor, hungry actors when they throw vegetables at them...

      As far as wanting a divorce from the LGBT, who appointed you arbiter as to what we want.

      Don't pull your projection bullshit on me again. You're the one who is attempting to speak for trans people, not me.

      Also, damages to a car from an accident are a civil matter (an accident is not a criminal event) - the police don't have jurisdiction,

      Who is this "Jacqui" person you speak of?

      When you know your co-workers and bosses actively hate people like you, you LEAVE.

      Why wouldn't I start with "blaming the victim"? That's exactly what you're doing. You're stating that it's on the VICTIM to somehow say "please sir, don't kill me while I leave a place I have every right to be because YOU are violating MY civil rights". That's EXACTLY victim blaming.

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    26. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by slashdotwannabe · · Score: 1

      There is no "on the other side of" or "on the same side of", any more than you could apply the term to any other male and female.

      If you're stating that the gender binary is bullshit, I agree. That said, that gender binary is a cultural norm that will continue to exist because it serves the vast majority of the population, and so whether or not you agree with it is irrelevant. The language constructs that reference that bullshit gender binary have meaning and function. You might as well be complaining that the Fahrenheit scale is "nonsense" because it applies arbitrary measures to various physical events. In the end, all language is arbitrary. Just because "cisgender" and "transgender" are also arbitrary does not mean they have no utility. If your distaste for the words is so strong, what do you propose as alternatives?

      There is ZERO proof that transsexuals did, and yet there's lots of proof that transvestites, including many who are gay, wanted to legitimacy of transsexualism - hence the word transgender, and also cisgender.

      So all of the transsexuals who transitioned constitute ZERO proof in your mind? How is it in your mind the trans community derives no benefit from these terms? It's only those big bad gay people?

      Marsha P. Johnson was a drag queen, and Jack Daniel Whitehall (aka Jacqui Hormona) was also a gay man. Labeling them "transgender" has nothing to do with their being transsexual because they weren't,

      I know dozens of transsexuals who are also drag queens. That does not make them any less transsexual. What you do for a living does not make who you are are a person. Since you didn't know Ms. Johnson, perhaps it isn't up to you to talk about whether or not she was transsexual or some other flavor of gender variance, and in any event, it's irrelevant. She was murdered. Floated down the river. Police refused to investigate. Gee, I've never heard that story before. Tell me again how much safer trans people are than cisgender people.

      and it is exactly this sort of bullsh*t that we are fed up with - being tied into gay violence.

      Once again, you attempt to speak for the community. You mean this is exactly the sort of bullshit YOU are fed up with. Jesus Barbara, you're a walking Anecdotal Fallacy. The arrogance you're displaying in that somehow YOUR life experience has ANYTHING do with others, much less the sweeping conclusions you're drawing from your data set of ONE is breathtaking and heart breaking.

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    27. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      The "Trans Day Of Remembrance" is fear mongering for political gain and power, same as any other big lie. Do the math.

      Jorgensen was feted everywhere she went. There was none of the crap we saw after the whole push for LGB rights claimed us as part of them.

      Doesn't matter that your country is so f*cked up wrt violence. The only violence on the radar here towards transsexuals is those who are foolish enough to live in the gay village, afraid because they are too afraid to leave the "protection" of the gay ghetto because, gee whiz, it must be even worse elsewhere - though it's not. The US is seriously screwed, as are many latin american, african, and asian countries.

      Using common sense to avoid getting beaten or killed is not "blaming the victim." You can walk across the street because you have the right of way, but when you get killed you'll be "dead right." Saying "Mr Car Driver, don't run me over because I have every right to be because YOU are violated MY civil rights." If you don't sell sex or drugs or hang around with those who do you are far less likely to be targeted. The number one rule of survival is DON'T BE STUPID. Doing illegal crap pretty much guarantees that people can mess you up and you most likely won't go to the cops. If you can't figure that out, Darwin is waiting, same as anyone else of whatever background.

      Also, transsexuals have no need for a spokesperson. We are better off without the political bullsh*t that the gay rights movement loves playing. We don't need any more splashback. That isn't speaking for the rest - it's just an observation that we're tired of being misused and misrepresented by what is now known as the white gay mafia.

      21 people in ten months is nothing. A drop in the bucket. As I said before, the murder rate for transsexuals is far lower than the general population - and you can't include cross-dressers in that stat because it's an apples-oranges comparison. So quit trying to justify the LGB narrative towards transsexuals. It's total bullshit.

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    28. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      First, the gender binary is a reality for most. Biologically ingrained. Transsexuals, with different brain patterns, etc., show that the binary is most definitely a reality. The only thing socially directed is the expression of that binary. Transsexuals don't as much transition (our brains do not change) as get their body parts in alignment with their brain. Why? Because we can't change the brain - that is our sole tool that we use to evaluate ourselves and everything around us. We don't change how we see ourselves. Just how we interact with the rest of the world.

      Transsexualism is a binary - either you are or you aren't. A drag queen saying they're a transsexual doesn't pass the smell test. A transvestite is someone who gets erotic satisfaction from cross-dressing. It's classified as a paraphilia. Wanting a sex change because the idea is sexually exciting is a bar to surgery, so those who obtain it do so by lying.

      You certainly don't speak for us. Many of us are totally done with the LGB. The fact that you don't see it illustrates your disconnect. So sit on it and rotate.

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    29. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by slashdotwannabe · · Score: 1

      Thanks for your blanket dismissals and continual assertions without any support or citation.

      Thanks for ignoring all of the points I made.

      Thanks for sharing your OPINIONS

      Doesn't matter that your country is so f*cked up wrt violence.

      And you DON'T EVEN FUCKING LIVE HERE. Thanks for sharing your ignorant opinions.

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    30. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      And your OPINIONS are more valid why? Oh, because you said so. Fuck off, asswipe.

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    31. Re:Check your FUCKING Privilige! by slashdotwannabe · · Score: 1

      And your OPINIONS are more valid why?

      Because they are backed up with references, evidence and citations?

      Oh, because you said so. Fuck off, asswipe.

      It is said that insult is the least classy form of concession. That's OK; I'm happy with any kind of concession.

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  4. Rocket to Nowhere Lives Up To Its Name by Cyberpunk+Reality · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Where will the crew be going? Not even NASA knows, but they're going!

    What will they be doing? Proving that they can go where ever it is they're going.

    The whole mission is a billion-dollar joyride. The best self-licking ice cream cone ever!

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    1. Re:Rocket to Nowhere Lives Up To Its Name by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What will they be doing? Proving that they can go where ever it is they're going.

      And making sure the equipment actually works. I assume you'd be first in line to bitch about NASA not doing any testing if something went wrong.

      Apollo 9 astronauts spent 10 days orbiting the Earth with a LEM, right? I mean, what a fucking waste! They should have just gone to the Moon.

    2. Re:Rocket to Nowhere Lives Up To Its Name by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Apollo 9 astronauts spent 10 days orbiting the Earth with a LEM, right? I mean, what a fucking waste! They should have just gone to the Moon.

      If they had gone to the moon and succeeded, we would have saved billions of dollars. If they had failed, and died, we would have lost 3 expendable people, at a time when dozens of Americans were dying everyday in Vietnam, and over a hundred were dying everyday in traffic accidents.

    3. Re:Rocket to Nowhere Lives Up To Its Name by delt0r · · Score: 1

      What is the point of the spam in the can. They can test all the equipment they want without anyone in it. Also it is not really a test when you die if it fails. Testing is suppose to be more about well testing before using.

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    4. Re:Rocket to Nowhere Lives Up To Its Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If they had gone to the moon and succeeded, we would have saved billions of dollars. If they had failed, and died, we would have lost 3 expendable people, at a time when dozens of Americans were dying everyday in Vietnam, and over a hundred were dying everyday in traffic accidents.

      OK, you never get to be in charge of trip planning. "As long as we get back from vacation with 2 of the 3 kids we started with, I'll call it a success. Think of the money we'll save on food and clothes. The vacation will pay for itself in a year!"

    5. Re:Rocket to Nowhere Lives Up To Its Name by Maritz · · Score: 1

      It takes the shine of these things when people die. I would be very concerned that you seem to need that explained.

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    6. Re:Rocket to Nowhere Lives Up To Its Name by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      What do expect? Not a single candidate has real space policy and Sanders is the worst! His is
      “I am supportive of NASA not only because of the excitement of space exploration, but because of all the additional side benefits we receive from research in that area. Sometimes, and frankly I don’t remember all of those votes, one is put in a position of having to make very very difficult choices about whether you vote to provide food for hungry kids or health care for people who have none and other programs. But, in general, I do support increasing funding for NASA.”
      Yea talk about a fool's dilemma I have never seen a vote that was for NASA or feeding hungry kids!

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    7. Re:Rocket to Nowhere Lives Up To Its Name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With the training its takes to be an astronaut, they're not as expendable as the random selection of draftees.

      Most of them are engineers as well as highly rated Navy or Air Force pilots.

      That makes two rare skill sets in addition to whatever social or psychological traits are necessary.

  5. How is this "first"??? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

    There have been 312 manned missions to cis-lunar space (the space between the earth and the moon). So how is this the "first"? TFA does not say it is the first, just that it is the first using Orion.

    1. Re:How is this "first"??? by Deadstick · · Score: 1

      The moon-hoax believers must have taken over NASA.

    2. Re:How is this "first"??? by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      MarkWhittington and timothy are just being sloppy.

      Whether you define cislunar space as being the region within the moon's orbit around the earth, or the region where the Moon's gravity dominates over the Earth's, this obviously will not be the first cislunar mission.

      I agree with the first definition of cislunar, but it seems like the distinction isn't useful for missions to LEO. If you imagine the Earth to be the size of a peach, then missions in LEO would be flying within the fuzz on the peach. That doesn't seem far away enough from the Earth to have anything to do with the Moon, so why call it cislunar?

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    3. Re:How is this "first"??? by michelcolman · · Score: 1

      Well, it's bound to be the first manned flight beyond LEO for as long as anyone currently working at NASA can remember.

    4. Re:How is this "first"??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Apollo 8-17 were all lunar and (barely) trans-lunar, which means they had to go through cis-lunar space to get there. So it would really be "the first cis-lunar mission beyond LEO since Apollo". Or even more specifically "the first mission with a destination in cis-lunar space beyond LEO". Other than Lagrange points, there isn't really much to do in cis-lunar space that you need a human for, so it's going up for the purpose of going up.

    5. Re:How is this "first"??? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and all LEO missions are cislunar. Heck, where I'm sitting right now is cislunar; it doesn't qualify as cislunar space because it's only a few hundred meters above sea level, and hence isn't space. I could get excited about people going translunar.

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  6. Re:Fuck off with the CIS- teerms by Deadstick · · Score: 1

    I know what cis- means. What's a Tumblrite?

  7. Jenner? by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

    Caitlyn Jenner? Is that you posting as an AC?

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    1. Re:Jenner? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course. It takes mental illness to understand trans-space.

    2. Re:Jenner? by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

      It takes mental illness to understand a lot of people out there.

    3. Re:Jenner? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoever posted that, I can confidently say it wasn't a Ted Cruz supporter.

  8. What I read... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    Computer Information Science Loony Space

    In short, another day at a Fortune 500 job to console hurt computers and fix broken users.

  9. first crewed space mission beyond low-Earth orbit by frovingslosh · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    "the first crewed space mission beyond low-Earth orbit"

    Seems unlikely, everyone knows that humans can't go past the deadly Van Allen Belt radiation. Looks like another scam to fleece the American taxpayers.

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  10. Let's take back the words co-opted by SocJus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    "cis" is a Latin prefix that roughly translates to "on this side of".

    It doesn't matter if it was co-opted by some academic leftist tyrants.

    We should take back the words they've co-opted.

    They only have power when they're allowed to corrupt language.

    If we deny them that ability, then they are powerless.

    So I think we should use the term "cis" as the Romans wanted us to, and in this case "cislunar" is a perfectly good use of it.

    By using the prefix "cis" properly in this case, the social justice movement has actually been dealt a blow.

    1. Re:Let's take back the words co-opted by SocJus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sound triggered.

      Poor baby.

    2. Re:Let's take back the words co-opted by SocJus by magarity · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You sound (reads) like gay. But it's alright.

      And "gay" is the first word that needs to be reclaimed; as "carefree happiness" it has no synonym. And with all the constant angst over equality and rights, there seems to be very little gayness involved in being gay :/

    3. Re:Let's take back the words co-opted by SocJus by Kjella · · Score: 1

      And "gay" is the first word that needs to be reclaimed; as "carefree happiness" it has no synonym.

      I think "merry" is pretty close, though apart from expressions like Robin Hood and his merry men and merry Chistmas it's fallen somewhat out of fashion. Blissful, cheerful, jolly are also very much in the vicinity so I don't think you have a shortage of alternatives they're just not used much. And I think we feel a linguistic need to have a formal/informal divide when it comes to sexuality like penis/cock, vagina/pussy, sex/intercourse, gay/homosexual for some reason, so I doubt it goes away unless a different informal term takes over which seems rather unlikely at this point.

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    4. Re:Let's take back the words co-opted by SocJus by Z80a · · Score: 2

      I'm not entirely sure if that would "hurt" em on any way or shape, or if they would just spin it around to make it fit like: "the CIS white gamergater shitlords are trying to redefine words with their privileges!".
      It's not a sane movement made out of people discussing and thinking, but a spiral into madness made out of an echo chamber fueled paranoia, "politically correct racism" created by insane collectivist ideas and some powerful people exploiting it for monetary gain and/or disruption.

      And by politically correct racism i don't mean the ol argument of "racism against whites", but against everyone, as they basically group the world into races and genders and define every group as having the proprieties of some of the individuals or the "perceived average".

    5. Re:Let's take back the words co-opted by SocJus by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      "Cisgendered" was coined as an alternative to writing "someone who identifies with the gender they were born with" and therefore has a valid purpose. You may believe that is unnecessary as there is no such thing as a transgender person, I suppose, but either way you do not control the language.

      Or are you one of those people who are pissed off that "we'll have a gay old time" from the Flintstones has a different meaning than fifty years ago?

      Props for not actually using the term "SJW" though.

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    6. Re:Let's take back the words co-opted by SocJus by Maritz · · Score: 1

      You sound (reads) like gay. But it's alright.

      "You sound like gay"? Are you alright?

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    7. Re:Let's take back the words co-opted by SocJus by Darron_Wyke · · Score: 1

      No, it was coined as a way for those people who are trans to hide the lack of normalcy of their condition. Despite all of the wailing and protesting, being transgender is abnormal. It's a mental defect (gender dysphoria). That's why therapy is part of the treatment, which may also include SRS. That's why it's listed in the DSM as a mental disorder. No matter how much you may rail against it, identifying as the sex you're born with does not give you a special title other than "normal".

    8. Re:Let's take back the words co-opted by SocJus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been using the word 'cis' all the time. It's the (German) name for the note one semitone above C. It's known as 'C sharp' in English.

      In some European notations, it is known as Cis.

      Incidentally, I also call the Microsoft language Cis. It's probably wrong, but I seldom need to (verbally) discuss the language so I don't exactly care...

    9. Re:Let's take back the words co-opted by SocJus by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Lots of people have abnormalities that are in the DSM, so "normal" isn't really a good word here. I'm solidly cisgender, but I've been diagnosed with other entries in the DSM. Do you want to call me "normal" just because I've got a male mind in a male body, disregarding my other issues, or shall we be a little more specific and refer to me as "not transgendered" (in the same way I'm "not schizophrenic")? If you're using "not transgendered", why not just call me "cisgendered"? :

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    10. Re:Let's take back the words co-opted by SocJus by ailnlv · · Score: 1

      check your cis privilege

    11. Re:Let's take back the words co-opted by SocJus by slashdotwannabe · · Score: 0

      No, it was coined as a way for those people who are trans to hide the lack of normalcy of their condition.

      Who the fuck appointed you to the Normal Police? Since you seem to know so much about the term, perhaps you should define it? Now, tell me how all of the people who aren't "average" are somehow "bad" as your usage implies?

      It's a mental defect (gender dysphoria).

      Read a dictionary. Dysphoria =/= Defect. There are plenty of dysphorias other than gender dysphoria. Are all of THOSE people defective, also?

      That's why therapy is part of the treatment, which may also include SRS

      No, therapy is part of the treatment mainly because asshats who know fuckall about what it means to be trans like to hold court with their idiocy and parade their biases all over the internet. THAT shit can drive you to drink, or to a therapist.

      That's why it's listed in the DSM as a mental disorder.

      Except is isn't listed in the DSM as a mental disorder. It used to be. See my previous comment about asshats who think they know something.

      No matter how much you may rail against it, identifying as the sex you're born with does not give you a special title other than "normal".

      Once again, who make you Special Inspector Snowflake of the Normal Police?

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    12. Re:Let's take back the words co-opted by SocJus by Darron_Wyke · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but normal is the perfect word. Abnormal is different from the normal. You're of a normal gender. I didn't say you were completely normal. If you have other conditions then those are addressed elsewhere. What special pronouns do you want for your special snowflake status?

    13. Re:Let's take back the words co-opted by SocJus by Darron_Wyke · · Score: 1

      Did I trigger you, tumblrina? Do you need to rail about muh soggy knee and teh patriarchy somewhere?

    14. Re:Let's take back the words co-opted by SocJus by BadgerRush · · Score: 1

      You are swinging at windmills here, there is no "blow" to the social justice movement. If anything it is a validation that the prefix "cis-" is not a loaded word that should be fought, but a valid technical term with no more "liberal bias" then any other Latin prefix. Many fields of human knowledge use that prefix in many contexts, always adhering to the original Latin meaning, and none of those uses is a "co-opted by some academic leftist tyrants", instead it is just normal academics practice of using the adequate Latin prefix whenever a concept in question don't already have a word for it. Here are some examples of common uses of the prefix "cis-" in question:

      - Chemistry using it to specify functional group orientation in relation to other functional group inside a molecule (cis-fats),
      - Social sciences using it to specify gender orientation in relation to genitalia (cis-gender),
      - Astronomy using it to specify orientation in space in relation to the Earth's moon (cis-lunar).

    15. Re:Let's take back the words co-opted by SocJus by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      "Normal" is a very unspecific word. There's lots of ways I'm normal, and a fair number of ways I'm not. The DSM is also not engraved in stone, and what it covers changes periodically. It may be useful to refer to me as "not schizophrenic" or "not an alcoholic" or "not a transsexual", being more specific.

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    16. Re:Let's take back the words co-opted by SocJus by Darron_Wyke · · Score: 1

      Still wrong. Normal means you match the sex you're born with. No matter how you want to church it up, there's no term for someone who matches the sex they're born with other than 'normal'. Because that is the norm.

    17. Re:Let's take back the words co-opted by SocJus by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Okay, so I'm normal. That will surprise some of my friends. Does this mean I don't suffer from another thing or two in the DSM, or that I'm normal and abnormal at the same time? Is a schizophrenic or depressive normal if he or she is comfortable in the sex he or she was born with? Because the moment you have to us a phrase like "normal in X", you open up the potential of a synonym for "normal in X".

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  11. Re:Fuck off with the CIS- teerms by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    What's a Tumblr-ite?

    FTFY - https://www.tumblr.com/

  12. Re:first crewed space mission beyond low-Earth orb by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

    I think it's been so long ago, they've forgotten about the moon walks. Just goes to show what happens when you lose institutional memory, I guess.

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  13. You're a go for trans-lunar-injection! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ohhh, boy. The SJWs have even corrupted memories of Apollo 11.

    Is nothing sacred to those twits?

    1. Re:You're a go for trans-lunar-injection! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow stop appropriating terms. check your cis privilege shitlord!

    2. Re:You're a go for trans-lunar-injection! by Megane · · Score: 1

      Your subject line is offensive to lunar-fluid missions.

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    3. Re:You're a go for trans-lunar-injection! by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Just checked my privilege. Yep, it still works.

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  14. This was never going to go well. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All congress knows about science is that they are against it, and they want pork.

  15. Re:Fuck off with the CIS- teerms by epyT-R · · Score: 1

    People who are better than you, better than me, better than all of us.

  16. SLS is still and will be the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As much as I like big rockets, SLS (Space Launch System aka Senate Launch System) is really just a jobs program for many Senators and NASA. That rocket is gong to cost billions to develop and probably 1 to 2 billion a launch. No wonder we cannot go many places. It would take extra launches to set up a mission, but Delta IV and Falcon Heavy make more economic sense to get there.

    1. Re:SLS is still and will be the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was your choice, you did nothing now you have nothing. You are nothing.

  17. Re:first crewed space mission beyond low-Earth orb by Lotana · · Score: 2

    This here is pure-quality flamebait.

    It is magnificent!

  18. Reminds me when of Apollo 8 by k6mfw · · Score: 3, Interesting

    when they completed TLI burn and as a child watching it on a B&W TV (over the air reception with rabbit ears), the news commentator said "and that's the burn that will take them to the Moon." In that instant everything changed. Going LEO is like a short walk to the corner drugstore. At mission control in Houston the earth/moon trajectory plot was put on the big board, one of the controllers said, "finally we're going someplace!" And that was only 7 years of going around and around in LEO. However, I wonder if the same were to be repeated again, the "magic" may not be there (think of earth rise photo returned by the crew that lead to Earth Day, EPA, NOAA, etc.). Now these days we got a bunch of religious zealots, deniers, SJWs, but the pics and vid are HD.

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  19. Can't believe it. by fredgiblet · · Score: 0

    NASA is promoting gender inequality. I thought they were better than that.

  20. New by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They act like that is something new, and they wonder why so many people challenge the claim that we actually went to the moon.

  21. First? by flink · · Score: 1

    Doesn't cislunar just mean between the earth and moon? If that's the case, then all the Apollo missions necessarily took place mostly in cislunar space. Maybe first this century, or first for the SLS, but not first full stop.

    1. Re:First? by SpaceDave · · Score: 1

      Technically yes, but space enthusiasts tend to split space operations into Earth orbit (from low earth orbit to as far out as geosynchronous satellites), cislunar (in the vicinity of the Moon) and deep space (everywhere else). Obviously these definitions aren't quite right (e.g. the Moon is still in Earth orbit) and I'm not defending their use but that's how it is.

  22. Re:Thank goodness NASA is getting off its ass by Maritz · · Score: 1

    A Trump administration will provide the SLS some focus.

    Heheheheheh

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  23. Re:Fuck off with the CIS- teerms by Coren22 · · Score: 1

    What, do they all work at NASA or something?

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