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Gov't Accidentally Publishes Target of Lavabit Probe: It's Snowden (arstechnica.com)

AmiMoJo writes: In the summer of 2013, secure e-mail service Lavabit was ordered by a federal judge to provide real-time e-mail monitoring of one of its users. Rather than comply with the order, Levison shut down his entire company. He said what the government was seeking would have endangered the privacy of all of his 410,000 users. Now, what was widely assumed has been confirmed. In documents posted to the federal PACER database this month, the government accidentally left his e-mail, 'Ed_snowden@lavabit.com,' unredacted for all to see.

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  1. So what? by jandrese · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I guess it is nice that the government accidentally confirmed the obvious, but it's not much of a news story.

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    1. Re:So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I guess it is nice that the government accidentally confirmed the obvious, but it's not much of a news story.

      It's obvious to anyone with a brain. Unfortunately there are people that thinks (or claim that they think) that it is just ramblings of conspiracy theorist nutjobs.
      Having a source to point to is always nice.

    2. Re:So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think you are being a bit hyperbolic using the word obvious.

      The evidence was reasonable as to draw the conclusion, but it wasn't obvious. And there would always be those who refused to recognize the strong likelihood. However, now, the truth is undeniable.

    3. Re:So what? by NatasRevol · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The point GP was trying to make is that many people are not reasonable and cannot draw conclusions well, so NEED obvious answers.

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    4. Re:So what? by NotDrWho · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There are still people who think the "rape" charge against Julian Assange is completely unrelated to his work with Wikileaks, and that the UK would spend millions for surveillance on any ole' Joe facing questioning in Sweden. People are fucking stupid.

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  2. Levison should be made whole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The guy hasn't done anything wrong, yet lost his business due to governmental pressure.

    The government (which in effect means the taxpayers) should compensate this man for the loss of his business. He had the personal integrity to stand up for his users even at great personal cost to himself. If our society shits on people like that, while the ones who succeed are people like this, then I think we've lost the plot. Our society is rotten to the core.

    We need to start treating people like Snowden (or apparently this Levison chap) with respect for their service to the public, and punishing the people who are responsible for the wrong doings to begin with, rather than punishing the whistleblowers.

    Yes, the money to compensate him for the loss of his business comes out of taxpayer coffers, but it's lost in the noise of graft and corruption losses, and anyway, we, the taxpayers, elected the clowns that caused the problem, so it's really our fault in the end.

  3. Re:Man!! Cold Revolution. by pla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's like we're in a cold revolution!

    Really cold - Most people have no clue about the implications of these issues (if they even know about them).

    A majority of people, for example, think Apple should roll over for the FBI "just this once" because terrorism, and they see the entire tech world rallying behind Apple (a near frickin' miracle to those of us in the trenches) as nothing but a bunch of damned elitist geeks trying to circle the wagons.

  4. Re:Man!! Cold Revolution. by fyngyrz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Underrated

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  5. Re:Conservative objections? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you actually read the articles, you would have seen at the time that they were there. Conservatives are and were against unbounded government intrusion "security at the expense of liberty"; there's a lot in common with pure Libertarians and republican Conservatives. Just as the Democrat party is composed of factions of Communist, big-government Statist, Social Liberal and hands-off-my-freedom Libertarian elements, the Republicans are composed of big-government Statist, individualist Conservative and hands-off-my-business Libertarian factions.

    This is why there is such a schism in the GOP in this election cycle, where the large-government status-quo establishment is fighting to retain power in light of populist & conservative challengers leading the race.

  6. Re:Man!! Cold Revolution. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    You just made that up. How do you know a majority of people think that? And then you take it a step further and suggest that you know how they see it with a very particular scene set. Even supposing the former proposition was true and there was evidence to support that (e.g. polls that ask the same basic question in different ways, etc.), that does not grant the latter.

    It's a significant leap from no information at all to that vision you paint. I want you to substantiate it.

  7. Re:Man!! Cold Revolution. by wbr1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People do not care as long as you make their cage comfortable enough.

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