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Microsoft Working on Tool to Port Chrome Extensions to Edge

Earlier this week, Microsoft released a new Windows 10 build for Insiders that, among other things, brings support for extensions to Microsoft Edge. There aren't many extensions to play with currently, but a Microsoft engineer says the company is working on a tool to allow developers to bring their Chrome extensions to its store. "Lots of questions on this," tweeted Jacob Rossi. "Yes we're working on a porting tool to run Chrome extensions in Edge. Not yet finished and not all APIs supported."

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  1. Obligatory by donaldm · · Score: 0, Troll

    Well all know the three E's. The first one starts with "Embrace". :-)

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    1. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong. These are plug-ins from another ecosystem that Microsoft desperately want on their own crap. If the devs aren't interested in Edge, they ain't gonna give a shite about them not working elsewhere. The only downside is the user will be wasting the developers' time when MS's bridging implementation fails (and it will).

    2. Re:Obligatory by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Having upgraded about three quarters of our office to Windows 10, I've found Edge to be a very flaky browser. I'm getting a good many remote procedure failed errors, with baffles me greatly. Thus far, I'm not terribly impressed with the browser's stability, and many users have just switched over to Chrome or Firefox, or keep using IE.

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    3. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Edgy post, brah.

    4. Re:Obligatory by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      I don't know what the "extend" part will look like yet (I'm guessing proprietary API additions) but I already know that Microsoft intends for edge extensions to become a walled garden (that is, you can't install any extensions without Microsoft's blessing) which is what the extinguish part of the plan might end up being.

    5. Re:Obligatory by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      You do know IE 11 is still inlcuded by default in the pro and enterprise versions? Reason being is Edge and 10 were not finished.

      MS has designed Edge to use webkit extensions from day 1. It was alpha quality so MS disabled it. On my own desktop I will not touch 10. It is Vista quality at the moment and I sure as hell wouldn't dare put this at work for another year or 2.

    6. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do a dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth then a sfc /scannow? Windows 10 has a tendancy to corrupt

    7. Re:Obligatory by williamyf · · Score: 2

      When I migrated my Brother's Office to Win10 a While ago, I installed Firefox ESR (38 at the time) with the required AdBlocker and PrivacyBadger and pinned it to the task bar. I left Edge on the desktop, and IE buried in the menus.

      I instructed the users to use Firefox as their daily driver (here in venezuela, the public administration is slowly [and crappily] migrating to opensource so firefox works better there). If any webPage does not render well (say, a bank), they are instructeed to try first Edge, and IE 11 as a last resort.

      I know that in its current state Edge is shite, so why this policy? Becauuse it is designed to CONDITION the users to try edge. When Edge finally catches up (and I trust it will), those people will be using two modern browsers for their needs, and forget the decent but rather cruftty IE11.

      So far, is working quite OK. No one has bypased the orders to install chrome, and no one is asking Where IE11 is or how to enable legacy mode...

      Fingers crosed for FF45 ESR to behave, for the migration to Chrome type extensions to be seamless, and for Project Electrolysis to delay as much as possible.

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    8. Re:Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (that is, you can't install any extensions without Microsoft's blessing) which is what the extinguish part of the plan might end up being.

      Google already started doing that for Chrome on Windows 2 years ago.

  2. Just great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now I'll have to explain what extensions are to BOTH Edge users.

    1. Re:Just great. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Every Windows 10 user uses Edge... to go to the Google Chrome download page.

    2. Re:Just great. by mangamaster03 · · Score: 2

      Yep. I installed Windows 10 a few weeks ago, and Edge has been used once...to download Chrome.
      Though, if adblock works Edge, it might become slightly more popular.

  3. Because really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That's easier to do than working on their own Extension system that nobody will use anyway.

  4. Insider Previews by jones_supa · · Score: 2

    For Windows 10 users: if you want to get these test builds, go to Settings -> Update & security -> Windows Update -> Advanced options -> Get Insider Preview builds. I'm just putting this here as many might not be aware about this possibility.

    1. Re:Insider Previews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For Windows 7 and 8.1 users: sit back and wait for your OS to upgrade itself to Win 10 without your permission.

    2. Re:Insider Previews by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I have it on good authority that no one on Slashdot runs Windows 10 or runs Windows Update. Incidentally that makes the Slashdot visitor IP logs a wishlist of computers vulnerable to zero day attacks. Except of course for those people running FreeBSD, they are safe. (No one runs Linux because of systemd)

    3. Re:Insider Previews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In order for someone to take advantage of an exploit, they first have to be able to get to the system with the vulnerability.

      Firewalls and antivirus FTW.

    4. Re:Insider Previews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have it on good authority that no one on Slashdot runs Windows 10 or runs Windows Update. Incidentally that makes the Slashdot visitor IP logs a wishlist of computers vulnerable to zero day attacks. Except of course for those people running FreeBSD, they are safe. (No one runs Linux because of systemd)

      LOL

    5. Re:Insider Previews by Zaiff+Urgulbunger · · Score: 1

      Do you know if MS have any extension developer docs publicly available? I'd like to see how similar it is to Chrome extension development.

  5. microsofts lame strategy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just get everything popular on other system working on their own systems. android/iphone mobile applications -> windows phone. more of the same

  6. Re:I'd rather have firefox extensions ported to ch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bookmarklets and/or userscripts pretty much cover everything missing from Chrome plugins.

  7. Bootstrap Desperation by WheezyJoe · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Microsoft seems to be trying to co-opt every other platform to fill the empty user space that is Windows 10-exclusive. They're supposedly rigging a way for iOS apps to run on Windows 10 (aka "Islandwood"), and they had a plan for Android apps (aka "Astoria") to run on the platform but recently dropped it in favor of Xamarin.

    Astoria enabled Android apps written in Java to run on Windows, sometimes with no modifications at all. Xamarin allows developers to share a large proportion of their code between Android, iOS, Windows, and beyond, but it requires that all that code must use .NET, and typically C#.

    This seems a little desperate. In the short run, maybe more stuff makes its way into the Windows Store, and salesmen can say "Windows 10 does that!" for any reason you'd stick with another platform. But if the quickest way to develop for the broadest market is not to develop for Metro but instead target a different platform and port it later, wouldn't Metro (or Modern or Windows 10 mobile or Edge, whatever) always remain an afterthought, last to get ported and last to receive bug-fixes?

    Microsoft appears to admit that apart from Win32, Windows 10 is a Johnny-come-real-real-lately, but isn't interested in doing the work to develop any killer apps on its own.

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    1. Re:Bootstrap Desperation by toonces33 · · Score: 2

      They wouldn't know a killer app if it bit them in the backside. They want other people to write the killer apps, and then sell them through their app store (where MS gets a percentage).

    2. Re:Bootstrap Desperation by gstoddart · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Microsoft seems to be trying to co-opt every other platform

      I'd say they're more trying to leverage other platforms to mask their own screw-ups ... because they can't seem to figure out what is successful or people actually want, so they're trying to get the things which work onto their own platform so people will stop saying "why would I need your crap?"

      I find it pretty sad that a company who has had so much market dominance for so many years, spends billions on research, finds themselves floundering around trying to make their stuff look relevant by simply trying to get stuff which people actually like to run on their platform.

      No, scratch that, I don't find it sad it all ... I find it pathetic and hilarious. Because they clearly find themselves in a situation in which all of their "innovation" is shit nobody gives a damn about ... yes, congratulations, you have recycled the same failed Active Desktop crap on yet another operating system, and taken away Solitaire.

      That's some cutting edge shit right there.

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  8. Just like they ported apps from Android to Windows by LuniticusTheSane · · Score: 1

    Anyone else remember the cancelled project Astoria to port Android apps to Windows 10? http://www.windowscentral.com/...

  9. Next by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft announces it will port the Chrome browser to run inside their Edge browser.

    1. Re:Next by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah... They'll just do a patent rape and start charging Google for every Chrome user.

  10. Didn't Learn From IE? by Luthair · · Score: 1

    Is Edge really still tied to the Windows build?

  11. So why not dump MS browsers all together for crome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Serious question. Problem solved and they get to blame Google for security problems.

  12. Re:Just like they ported apps from Android to Wind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's called vaporware. In fact Microsoft fans don't need those announcements to become real. They're just satisfied knowing they will (sometime) have the best applications of the world.

  13. EEE for E? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 0
    Embrace, Extend and Extinguish for Edge?

    It ain't gonna work this time. It works only when you are the de-facto monopoly. And people have cottoned on to it.

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  14. When will Microsoft work on getting rid of MOOXML? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That fetid, closed format really needs to go.

  15. Good idea. ish. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For the most part, it is just bare-bones HTML, JS, CSS and media files.

    The APIs are really the only complex part to port over, which will be easy enough since Chromes UTTER LACK of customization with regards to anything UI-based, besides an icon and menu items.
    Not even a sidebar thanks to that dick Ben. We got those disgusting bubble windows instead of an actual sidebar. Yeah, up yours Ben.

    However, the main problem is this extension model is basic and quite shitty to be honest.
    Firefox is changing to this new system as well, and by doing so will basically kill off some major extensions because their features simply cannot be emulated in this more limited extension API. (not that it matters since the majority of developers left Firefox years ago because Mozilla do not understand the point of an API!)
    Not only that, XUL is basically dead now. The only good thing Mozilla has made. CSS can go fuck itself. XUL is far superior for interface design.

  16. Edge will never capture signifcant market share by postmortem · · Score: 1

    he people are used by now to different browsers and platforms (mobile being one), it is not 1999 anymore when only obvious way to internet was through windows 98 and IE shortcut on desktop. The crowd that did that is relatively old, and minority...

    So Microsoft has to be realistic and realize Edge is not going to have much market share. Ever. If they were trying to make healthy and safe browser with long-term plan, then be so. But this is not step in that direction. It more smells of defeat. And we all know how quick Microsoft is to abandon products.

  17. Re:Just like they ported apps from Android to Wind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And all of the viruses and trojans in the world too. In fact, Windows 10 comes preloaded with spyware and adware to help get you started and if that's not enough, it will randomly revert your settings and randomly reboot while you're in the middle of work too!

  18. MS will fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MS created tools to port Android apps to Window. Developers showed very little interest and MS abandoned the project. MS was trying to fill their empty app store in that case. Here, they are trying to gain from the large number of Chrome extensions and make up for the lack of interest in their own browser.

    There is no reason to expect Chrome developers to be any more interested in helping MS than Android developers were. Some people just don't like being used.

  19. I hope they open source Edge. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope that Microsoft open sources Edge, and ports it to Linux and OS X. Although I don't use Windows, I do realize that Edge is a fine browser that's getting better and better. The only thing holding it back is that it only runs on Windows.

    If it ran on the other major platform (OS X) and on minor platforms like Linux and FreeBSD, I could see it being the final nail in Firefox's coffin. In my opinion, Mozilla has repeatedly shown the user community that Mozilla doesn't give a damn about its users' wishes. That's why we've seen Firefox trashed, with one unwanted change after another, release after release, even after the community has begged Mozilla not to make these unwanted changes.

    Users are fleeing Firefox like there's no tomorrow. The stats show that Firefox is likely around 7% of the browser market on all of the platforms it supports. The stats clearly show that they're going to Chrome and Edge.

    This move wouldn't be without precedent. Microsoft is open sourcing much of .NET. It's porting SQL Server to Linux. IE itself used to run on non-Windows OSes.

    Now is the time to free Edge. Doing so would push it as the main competitor to Chrome on all of the major platforms, finally burying the rotting corpse of Firefox and giving real options to web users.

  20. Funny laugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's funny when I see stories like this, Microsoft is lowering the bar for devs because there are very few true devs left. Mozilla Firefox and google chrome were both very good ideas, note the were, but both have too many holes, or am I wrong that viruses still are a big factor in computer use. Both browsers are bulky and resource hogs and being so popular, you figure they would not be a factor in remote execution. I deal with 1000's of remote users a year, and the one big weakness to the laymen user, their browsers.... IE has its faults'... No update plugins, same issues as Firefox and chrome, hello, google even has a malicious code removal tool for it's browser, but users I see using edge... Well get viruses mostly from downloading other things and installing it after kicking past the several warnings. I can do without ad block plus because the more users using it, the more ads designed to go around it and eventually, death of free Internet. Wake up and smell the roses, if everyone jumped on edge for a year not only do I think that it would greatly improve, but the more stable it would become, Firefox and chrome have been around for a long time so newbs who nothing other than them bash it, hackers who use it's vulnerabilities praise it, and those too ignorant to try something that may be better bash it. Use to be one of the fan boys for Google and chrome, then i Challenged myself, and well, will now never go back, hackers are getting smarter and vigilant, users are getting more ignorant and lazy, thank you Microsoft for sealing the gap.

  21. Why not Edge to Chromium? by DesertBlade · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't be easier (and better) just to make Edge a Chromium browser?

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