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Rust-Based Redox OS Devs Slam Linux, Unix, GPL
Freshly Exhumed writes: Redox OS, a project on GitHub aimed at creating an alternative OS able to run almost all Linux executables with only minimal modifications, is to feature a pure Rust ecosystem, which they hope will improve correctness and security over other OSes. In their own words, 'Redox isn't afraid of dropping the bad parts of POSIX, while preserving modest Linux API compatibility.' They also level harsh criticisms at other OSes, saying "...we will not replicate the mistakes made by others. This is probably the most important tenet of Redox. In the past, bad design choices were made by Linux, Unix, BSD, HURD, and so on. We all make mistakes, that's no secret, but there is no reason to repeat others' mistakes." Not stopping there, Redox documentation contains blunt critiques of Plan 9, the GPL, and other mainstays.
Show me the code first, then start shittalking everybody.
https://github.com/redox-os/redox
Did you miss this part or something?
Well, I read the code. Which isn't a microkernel yet, as far as I can tell. To back that up, note their comment on wishing to move more of the kernel into user space.
Bruce Perens.
You know, there comes a time when you develop software for a living that "do your fucking job" becomes a real thing.
If you have the luxury of pursuing ideological purity in software, congratulations, either your mom is really understanding, or you have a tenured position and nobody is relying on you for anything real. But in the real world, that level of bullshit onanism and self congratulatory crap is something nobody has time for.
That guy who refuses to write the stuff he's being paid to write because it lacks sufficient ideological purity, and instead endless refactors stuff which already works? That guy is asking to get canned because he thinks his job is an outlet for his political agenda. That guy sitting in his basement doing the same thing? Well, he's entitled to do whatever the hell he wants, no matter how detached from reality he is.
Oh, now that's some fucking rewriting of history. Someone didn't take some pure fucking temple of computer science and "dumb down/cheap down" by using UNIX and C ... someone solved actual real damned problems decades before whiny punks like you come along and whine about your elegance and theoretical perfection.
Go ahead, pursue ideological perfection as a goal. But do it on your own time, and don't expect the rest of the world to do anything but roll their eyes at you -- because you're so far detached from actual reality as to be laughable and irrelevant.
Sitting around saying how the rest of the world has done it wrong and your toy nobody will ever use will be so much more better and perfect? Well, put up or shut up, but don't expect applause or interest based on your own level of smug -- that's your damned problem.
Because the smugness does nothing at all to make anybody think you're anything but a whiny little prat who hasn't actually been exposed to reality.
But in my direct experience, the people who go on the loudest about the theoretical and ideological purity of software are the ones who have delivered the least working software in the room -- right up to several people who couldn't deliver the stuff they were being paid to because they were so focused on trivia they failed to do their jobs.
And those people usually delivered badly written, brittle code which was so 'elegant' as to be a useless pile of shit.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
L4 and QNX are working, performant microkernels that have seen plenty of deployment in the real world. Not on the desktop granted, but performant microkernels aren't some mythical unicorn, they're everywhere and have been for over a decade.
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