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Scientists: What We're Doing To The Earth Has No Parallel In 66 Million Years (washingtonpost.com)

mspohr writes from an article on The Washington Post: We haven't seen this much CO2 added to the atmosphere in 66 million years: "If you look over the entire Cenozoic, the last 66 million years, the only event that we know of at the moment, that has a massive carbon release, and happens over a relatively short period of time, is the Palaeocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum (PETM)," says Zeebe. "We actually have to go back to relatively old periods, because in the more recent past, we don't see anything comparable to what humans are currently doing." [New research suggests, even the drama of the PETM falls short of our current period, in at least one key respect: We're putting carbon into the atmosphere at an even faster rate than happened back then.] "The anthropogenic release outpaces carbon release during the most extreme global warming event of the past 66 million years, by at least an order of magnitude," writes Peter Stassen, an Earth and environmental scientist at KU Leuven, in Belgium, in an accompanying commentary on the new study. "Given that the current rate of carbon release is unprecedented throughout the Cenozoic, we have effectively entered an era of a no-analogue state, which represents a fundamental challenge to constraining future climate projections," the study concludes.

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  1. Re:Questioning isn't "denying"; it's science! by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That's it, use your mod points you evil fucking assholes. Waste them all, but it won't change the fact that the univese doesn't owe your precious oil economy one fucking favor. CO2 traps energy, assholes, no matter how many mod points and trolling actions you use to try to deny it.

    Chillaxe dude. The denialists are using the only tool they have left, to try to yell louder than you do. Your posts don't go away, and I've found in climate news here, it helps to surf at 0.

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  2. Re:Questioning isn't "denying"; it's science! by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What science? From the scientists who studied at these contaminated institutions?

    This is special pleading.. Who are these 'real' scientists you speak of? I'm willing to bet they graduated from such schools, probably with high honors. This legitimacy is marred by the compromised state of the university system, most of which pushes ideology first, critical thought second. That shit has to stop.

    Ahh, you show your true denialist roots. I knew we could flush you out.

    Give me the citations of the contamination. Hell, the university where I worked is considered by the lefties as being in bed with the energy industry. Only difference is, the scientists believe in science, which you do not.

    I'll take that back as soon as you show me the citations of the "contaminated universities" and the proof that AGW doesn't exist.

    As well, we might discuss how your political beliefs trumps physics. That, by the way, is called Lysenkoism.

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  3. Re:Notice how all dissenting views get modded to - by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Science doesn't advance because people agree with the status quo. No, they point out where current theories are wrong. That's when science really advances. In most fields, dissenting views are welcome debate because it benefits science. But that doesn't happen with global warming. Dissenting views are silenced just like you see happening here.

    You must spend very little time around scientists. There is a tremendous amount of discussion and argument. Often the argument technique is used to work out the theory.

    The problem with your thesis is that while there isn't a tremendous amount of argument today about AGW, it is not because of your odd conflation with religion, but it's because Scientists do not argue much about evolution or the idea that the earth is ony 6 thousand years old either. Or gravity, or nuclear fission and fusion for that matter. There aren't any scientists arguing for the Phlogiston theory, and that's a fact. There comes a point where someone who wants to claim that man and the dinosaurs lived at the same time, or that the sun is a lump of burning coal, are going to have a hard time being listened to.

    As I've told many, put together a hypothesis, an experimental plan and look for funding. And if you are worried about the so called conspiracy of scientists, you could probably get the Koch brothers to fund the experiments at maybe Liberty University. Then after proving AGW wrong, the scientist who does will be in line for a Nobel prize.

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