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GNOME 3.20 Officially Released (softpedia.com)

prisoninmate writes: After yet another six months of hard work, the highly anticipated GNOME 3.20 desktop environment for GNU/Linux operating systems has been officially released on March 23, 2016. Release highlights include support for operating system upgrades via GNOME Software, middle-click paste, kinetic scrolling, drag-and-drop support for Wayland, keyboard shortcuts and gestures overlay for most of the core apps, XDG-Apps technology for installing multiple versions of an app, and much more goodies.

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  1. Re:Gnome 3 pushed me to OS X by arth1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No regret. No coming back. Linux is for server-side through SSH only.

    Tunneling X through SSH is nice and easy.
    As long as you don't use Gnome on either end, that is. Then it's hell.

    Remote X capabilities went downhill already with Gnome 2, but with 3, it's just not usable at all.

  2. Re:Based on the video, it's still total shit. by jonnyj · · Score: 3, Interesting

    And why the *** is there so much empty space all over the place?! I bought a 28" monitor so that it could be filled with useful content, not just empty gray areas with nothing in them!

    Pick up a book. Any book will do so long as it's been professionally published. Look at the white space around the text, and reflect on why the publisher made you purchase all of that expensive blank paper.

    White space can communicate effectively. Hostile vulgarity rarely does.

  3. Wait..."Guh-Nome"? by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Wait..."Guh-Nome"? Is that how it's really pronounced??

    I've always pronounced it "gnome", as in "garden gnome", or like "Nome, Alaska".

    Is it really supposed to be pronounced "guh-nome"??

    And Gnome has keyboard shortcuts for "some" of the apps? Will these miraculous wonders never cease?

    With groundbreaking innovation like this it's like living in 1998 all over again. I mean, keyboard shortcuts, wow. MIND BLOWN!

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  4. Burn me at the stake, but... by Lisandro · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...i've grown to kinda like Gnome 3.

    It is far from perfect, sure - the configuration settings are still dumbed down beyond belief and some default UI choices (like the automatic window snapping on screen edges) are hard to justify. But it is a good looking, very easy to use DM which also happens to be consistent when used on touchscreen devices, something the rest of the Linux world somehow still struggles with.

    I try other DMs from time to time and always end up coming back. The only real contender Gnome 3 has is XFCE, which is what Gnome 2 should've always been in the first place.

  5. Does any window manager do this? : by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One thing I've always wanted is the ability to open a context menu, select an item, and keep the bloody menu open.

    Does any OS/WM do this? RISC OS used to (with the right mouse button) but I've never seen it anywhere else.

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    1. Re:Does any window manager do this? : by arth1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      One thing I've always wanted is the ability to open a context menu, select an item, and keep the bloody menu open.

      Does any OS/WM do this? RISC OS used to (with the right mouse button) but I've never seen it anywhere else.

      "Menu Tear" used to be standard, where you could discouple a menu from its menubar, and keep it open for as long as you liked. MWM has it, SGI's 4Dwm had it, CDE (Common Desktop Environment, used by Sun and others) had it.
      I'm unsure whether KDE or Gnome is the culprit here, but it seems to be missing from most desktop environments these days.

  6. Re:Can you open multiple windows simulaneously yet by arth1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I really don't understand what you mean. I have multiple windows open all the time.

    Say you want three different gnome-terminals. Not one parent and two children, but three separate ones, so if one dies, it doesn't take the others with it.
    Or say you want to open a single document in two windows, so you can scroll to separate parts and compare them, or make different changes to the two copies before saving them separately.

    Gnome 3 makes stuff like this really hard to achieve.

  7. Re:Middle-click paste, really? by arth1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The clipboard actually works in Gnome so it's more useful I guess

    If, by "actually works", you mean it modifies what's pasted from what was marked, trying to second-guess the user like in Microsoft Windows' clipboard, yes, I suppose you are right.

    However, I kind of like not getting presentation but just raw text when I copy. I don't want the fonts. I don't want artificial line breaks from the presentation. I don't want tabs adjusted so they align. And if I copy an "ø", I don't want it to be translated to unicode.

  8. Re:Gnome 3 pushed me to OS X by arth1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I still use X over ssh with gnome 3.18 daily without issue, as I have been with every previous version of gnome shell. What issues are you having?

    All kinds, really. Sometimes fatal errors because it wants to use shm or gvfs, neither of which works over a network. Or other assumptions - here are a couple from Gnome 2 (I don't have a Gnome 3 system nearby, because it just doesn't work for me):

    $ gnome-calculator

    (process:19434): Gtk-CRITICAL **: set_table: assertion `buffer->tag_table == NULL' failed

    $ nautilus .
    Initializing nautilus-gdu extension
    Nautilus module initialize
    nautilus_module_list_types()
    Initializing nautilus-open-terminal extension

    ** (nautilus:19514): WARNING **: Failed to get the current CK session: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Manager.GeneralError: Unable to lookup session information for process '19514'

    $ gnote

    (gnote:19650): libtomboy-WARNING **: Binding 'F12' failed!

    (gnote:19650): libtomboy-WARNING **: Binding 'F11' failed!
    [and then it hangs]

    Programs that aren't gnome-related work with no problems.

  9. Re:Based on the video, it's still total shit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Books are not computer user interfaces. You're not comparing like concepts.

    Take GNOME 2 (or Mate) and GNOME 3. Compared the information density between both and what you can see on the same screen at any given time. GNOME 2/Mate makes better use of available screen real estate, whereas GNOME 3 has more padding and less space to show the actual useful stuff.

    I fucking HATE this trend of lowering information density. It means having to scroll more and not take advantage of larger screen sizes. I suppose it's got a lot to do with laptops, phones and tablets being the predominant sizes to target for and people with decently-sized monitors being seen as outliers, but it's not as if I have to enjoy this regression.