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OLO, World's First Portable 3D Printer Prints On Top Of Smartphones (hothardware.com)

MojoKid quotes a report from HotHardware: The OLO 3D Printer was first announced in October at the World Maker Faire in New York, where it earned itself an Editor's Choice award and accolades. The developers behind OLO call it a "smartphone 3D printer" as it requires a smartphone to operate. Designs can either be downloaded from the internet from the device, or copied over from a computer once it's created. When placed on a desk, the OLO looks like an inconspicuous little box, but inside, it can craft items up to 400 cm3 in volume. Its developers call the OLO "portable," and it has the specs to match at 1.7 lbs with a physical size of only 6.8" x 4.5" x 5.8." OLO is a unique printer not only because of its small form factor and low price point ($99), but because of its operation. Once the 3D model is loaded, the bottom section of OLO can be placed on top of your phone, and then the resin of your choice is poured inside that structure. You then place the top half of OLO on top and wait a few hours for it to do its thing. The resin hardens by using the light emitted from the smartphone it sits on top of, generated from the OLO app.

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  1. Resolution? by holmstar · · Score: 1

    Using a smartphone screen is clever, but I wonder how much resolution you would really get since the pixels on a phone are purposely non-directional. Also, Wouldn't the resin harden on it's own inside the bottle under ambient light?

    1. Re:Resolution? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't care about that. What I like is this bit from the video:

      With OLO you can exchange creations with people all over the world. You can even send a surprise gift to someone special that can only be revealed by printing it.

      Lots and lots of cocks are going to be sent.

    2. Re:Resolution? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They better hope the recipients have very large screen phones...

    3. Re:Resolution? by maroberts · · Score: 1

      Lots and lots of cocks are going to be sent.

      Only very tiny ones.

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    4. Re:Resolution? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, an accurate replica of the sender then?

  2. A few hours? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Who is going to leave their phone under this thing for a few hours? And what happens if I get a call mid-print?

    1. Re:A few hours? by war4peace · · Score: 1

      What do you mean? Use your other phone. Everybody knows hipsters own at least two phones!

      (that as meant to be a joke, if you feel offended take a humor pill)

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    2. Re:A few hours? by mlts · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Exactly. For 3-6 hours while this this is being used, my phone is unusable for anything else, even if there is an emergency call or text.

      Also, what's the point, other than a novelty value? I can get a 3D printer with a larger printing volume. It may not be as cool looking, but it likely will have a heated tray and almost assuredly, better precision than this model. Plus, using filament is a lot easier to deal with than guesstimating how much liquid I squirt on the phone's surface.

      The only real use I can see with this is having a dedicated smartphone or iPod Touch, and using it in the field, due to the portability.

    3. Re:A few hours? by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      And what happens if I get a call mid-print?

      Voicemail?

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    4. Re:A few hours? by SumDog · · Score: 2

      I don't understand why they didn't add $150 to the price tag and include a heat source powered by an Audrino or other micro controller. That would give you consistency. I imagine their testing base of this has to have a huge variety of devices.

      But I guess it does help with the "cool" and "marketing" factor...plus being $100 sounds neat. Really the box is probably pennies. The $100 is really for the software and the initial resin. Then they just...keep making money off the resin.

    5. Re:A few hours? by c · · Score: 1

      Really the box is probably pennies.

      The "box" has the (moving) build platform and apparently some kind of resin peel mechanism, so there's a bit more to it.

      But yeah, the phone thing seems pretty gimmicky. On the other hand, building in a decent pico projector would've really spiked the price.

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    6. Re:A few hours? by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      I don't understand why they didn't add $150 to the price tag and include a heat source powered by an Audrino or other micro controller..

      It looks like from their time line that they are doing exactly this in 12 months time. The photopolymers and the print mechanism are the novel parts with the greatest risk, so why waste time and money putting together a dedicated screen right now, when you can put it off for 12 months and either the company has crashed and burned .. so no need. Or now you have a market that wants more. I think its a great strategy and shows that they are thinking how to scale their business and still mitigate risk.

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    7. Re:A few hours? by CaptainLard · · Score: 1

      Exactly. For 3-6 hours while this this is being used, my phone is unusable for anything else,

      I don't know about you but my phone is unused for 7-8 hours every day. Its usually plugged in during that time as well. Apologies to those that only sleep 2.5 hours at a time. Anyway, $100 is absolutely a novelty value. It blew my mind when I found out a smartphone camera can measure heart rate, and now they can be an integral part of a 3D printer?! Holy shit!

      Obviously you can buy a better, bigger purpose built tool. But how hard is it to scale this up to a tablet? Or a monitor? Can't you appreciate the awesomeness of taking what derived from a telephone and using for a 3D printer?!

    8. Re:A few hours? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The kickstarter mentions that.

    9. Re:A few hours? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Well it's finished ... hey, why is that bit all jagged?

      Oh bugger, I must have left it on vibrate!

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    10. Re:A few hours? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, you speak with a convincing tone that will make people think you know what you are talking about, when clearly you don't. A heated tray? Not necessary or beneficial for a resin based printer. And if you think you will get better precision from a filament based extruder, you clearly are out of your area of expertise here. And as to the liquid, unlike wasted filament it can easily be poured back into the bottle, or left in the machine for the next project (no waste).

      Your only valid complaint is the size and the fact that it locks up the use of your phone. Of course for many they may have an extra phone (or three) that could be dedicated to the purpose, and the size/cost are clearly targeted for entry level hobbyists.

      My only concern is the resin cost, which is considerably more expensive than the equivalent amount of filament.

    11. Re:A few hours? by robi5 · · Score: 1

      Is there still such a thing as voicemail? It's so annoying when someone leaves on this 80's dinosaur. You get to pay for the privilege of hearing a beep and a robotic reading of the number (never the person's greeting) and on the off-chance you assume the dear callee has his voicemail on because he uses it and you leave a message, it never gets heard.

      Voicemail is scam by phone companies, they leave it on and make it bothersome to opt out of it, because they exploit the human weakness of procrastination and charge as much as they can get away with.

      The _real_ answer is that if you have an incoming call, you can pick it up on your laptop, watch or tablet, if you're an Apple user. I assume Google will have similar facilities. The real question is, how does the printer app on the phone disable the call screen. Or do you need to put it in airplane mode?

    12. Re:A few hours? by ryanmc1 · · Score: 1

      Airplane mode

    13. Re:A few hours? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      3D printers are huge for table-top gaming. Yes, I know, this means violating copyright on the 3D scans of your favorite minatures, but for casual play, wtf right?

      I've always wanted 3D scans for the library of MechWarrior mechs, of which there are quite a lot.

      Resolution and strength would be important for me, Mech's inevitably have lots of sharp corners and thin gun barrels/antennae

    14. Re:A few hours? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually it gets worse than that. People pay hundreds of dollars per piece for some Warhammer items. Some dufas deciding they are going to 3D print some figures and sell them is truly infringing on IP, where they are making money, the buyer winds up with something illegal and useless in any tournament, even if the piece is painted, and the IP owner is boned out of cash that could be made on that physical item.

      Usually one can tell by weight of a piece... for now.

    15. Re:A few hours? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You disabled voicemail and nobody complained? Let me guess, your parents and grandparents died and you don't know any old people? lucky you. I have to have voicemail on at all times and with a personalized greeting with my full name (goodbye privacy) because otherwise some keyboard-challenged dinosaur will panic call all my friends.

  3. Promotional story? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This reads like a story on paid publication sties for marketing.

    1. Re: Promotional story? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because it is.

  4. a "few" hours + always on phone display by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    won't someone think of the phones?

    and then that moment when an important call comes in and you wreck your print job by bumping the printer while trying to grab the phone before the call goes to voice mail........ 2 hours later to charge back up you can re-run that 4 hour print job.

    1. Re:a "few" hours + always on phone display by camperdave · · Score: 3, Funny

      You do it on your burner phone... duh!

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    2. Re:a "few" hours + always on phone display by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Why would he have a burner phone, he's not a tehrrust.

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    3. Re:a "few" hours + always on phone display by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would he have a burner phone, he's not a tehrrust.

      I'll wager if you pick a guy with a burner phone at random he's far more likely to be a drug dealer or a whoremonger than a terrorist.

    4. Re:a "few" hours + always on phone display by robi5 · · Score: 1

      Yes, you need _lots_ of drug dealers for effective supply of drugs, but you don't need lots of terrorists for effective supply of terror. Simple as that. Love it when someone compares terrorist kills to road accident victims or do other plain numerical or frequency comparisons. It's not how it works.

    5. Re:a "few" hours + always on phone display by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      ...and then that moment when an important call comes in and you wreck your print job...

      GEORGE: The machine will get it...
      BETSY: No, no, it's not on...
      GEORGE: They'll call back.
      BETSY: But George, what if it's an emergency?
      GEORGE: In the whole world right now, there's maybe three emergencies. Why would you think, on this entire planet, that you're one of those three?
      BETSY: George, please. Hello? What? Oh my god!
      GEORGE: Alright, maybe four.

  5. Lots of handwavium on this.... by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There are a LOT of things that dont make sense to me. smartphones dont put out a lot of light and it varies based on phone, it's not like 1000 lumen projectors used for real photometric 3d printers. so a print would take insane amounts of time..... so what happens when I get a call during a print?

    they really dont give any good details for someone to make a good decision on.

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    1. Re:Lots of handwavium on this.... by qvatch · · Score: 1

      or if you get notifications with vibration :)

    2. Re:Lots of handwavium on this.... by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 4, Funny

      You just make sure that the first thing you print is another smartphone. Set your phone to airplane mode while doing so. Once you have the duplicate phone, since it's not on a plan, you don't need to worry about it getting any calls; use it to print subsequent models.

      Don't forget to take your phone back out of airplane mode. Once you start selling all those duplicate phones, you'll want to make sure your customers can reach you.

    3. Re:Lots of handwavium on this.... by roman_mir · · Score: 2

      What do you mean, 'a call'? Who uses their smartphone for calling people? Absurd. People show them off, twit and twat on them, chatroulette on them, Facebook, wechat, fiber, whatsup, tinder, etc, nobody calls or picksup anymore.

    4. Re:Lots of handwavium on this.... by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      chatroulette

      Does that even still exist?

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    5. Re:Lots of handwavium on this.... by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      chatroulette

      Does that even still exist?

      Chatroulette and OLO should partner up. You could print your favorite chatroulette penises right on the spot!

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    6. Re:Lots of handwavium on this.... by robi5 · · Score: 1

      Or the caller's image gets imprinted... 'honey, you have a mistress? I can't peel off this woman's face from the rubber broche you printed for me. Oh here's her number"

    7. Re:Lots of handwavium on this.... by hawkfish · · Score: 1

      What do you mean, 'a call'? Who uses their smartphone for calling people? Absurd. People show them off, twit and twat on them, chatroulette on them, Facebook, wechat, fiber, whatsup, tinder, etc, nobody calls or picksup anymore.

      Especially my darn kids!

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    8. Re:Lots of handwavium on this.... by magarity · · Score: 1

      You just make sure that the first thing you print is another smartphone

      Ah then the second thing you print can be another printer...

  6. Low price point? by plopez · · Score: 2

    If you add in the cost of a smart phone it's not so low anymore. Sounds like a gimmick.

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    1. Re:Low price point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just use a cheap Chinese tablet.

    2. Re:Low price point? by CaptainLard · · Score: 1

      Can't I just use the smartphone I already have?

    3. Re:Low price point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... sure, as long as you have nothing better to do with it for "a few hours" each time you want to print something.

    4. Re:Low price point? by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      You mean like at night, while you are sleeping?

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    5. Re:Low price point? by robi5 · · Score: 1

      Good luck finding a non-Chinese table.

  7. Sweet! by dohzer · · Score: 2

    Now I can print all kinds of low-res plastic crap on a whim at the beach and send it straight into the ocean where it was headed anyway.

    1. Re:Sweet! by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      Low-res? You've never seen anything printed on a resin printer.

  8. opaque bottle. 2.9" cube, old phone by raymorris · · Score: 1, Troll

    > wouldn't the resin harden on it's own inside the bottle under ambient light?

    If the bottle were clear it would.

    For those who don't care to do cube roots and metric- imperial conversions in their head at the moment , 400cm3 is about 2.9 inches cubed. (Not 2.9 cubic inches)

    For those freaked out about leaving their phone on the desk for a few hours, you can use one of the old phones you hae in the junk drawer. No phones in junk drawer? You can find one on ebay for about $20.

    1. Re:opaque bottle. 2.9" cube, old phone by MtHuurne · · Score: 1

      In their print demo video they have an opaque bottle, but all the promo materials including the main video show clear bottles. So it seems there is some difference between the promo materials and the actual product.

  9. Dear lord! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    3D printers are still a "thing"? I thought by now the unrealistic hype would have died down and the interest in plastic blobs forgotten.

  10. April Fools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So light hardens the resin, but the magical bottles of resin that let plenty of light in from the pictures don't let it harden? Fail.

    1. Re:April Fools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      UV. Glass stops it. This is grade-school knowledge. Kill yourself.

    2. Re:April Fools by MtHuurne · · Score: 1

      They say they're using daylight resin, not UV resin. Which makes sense, since cell phone screens don't emit UV light. I found this site selling daylight resin, in opaque bottles.

    3. Re:April Fools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sir are a jerk and wrong because UVA is not blocked by glass only UVB and C.

    4. Re:April Fools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you, idiot, believe that smartphone displays emit UV? Through their glass screens?

    5. Re:April Fools by LuxuryYacht · · Score: 1

      http://bucktownpolymers.com/rc... has been selling photopolymers for the visible spectrum for several years by the drum. This is nothing new except for the phone gimmick.

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    6. Re:April Fools by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Warning! Do NOT watch the video on their site. It screams "douchebag hipster bullshit".

  11. This is stupid. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 4, Interesting

    1. Bleed. Lots of bleed.
    2. Cannot calibrate properly because different phone screens have different intensities and spectra. Even within the same model of phone.
    3. Occupies your phone.
    4. What advantage does this have over a cheap LCD panel anyway?
    5. Resin can offer a superior print quality, if you weren't dealing with photons escaping in the wrong direction, but it's also expensive and hard to get.
    6. And offers no consistency in quality control, so good luck using cheap stuff off ebay.
    7. Oh, and it has a shelf life.
    8. Did they mention it's also moderately toxic when liquid?
    9. And that you have to clean those printers out if you want to leave them unused for a while to keep the resin from setting inside them?
    10. That's the smallest build area of any printer I've ever seen.

    It's a gimmick. I hope that one day a cheaper, more practical resin printer will be introduced for the masses - but this is not that printer. It is certainly an interesting approach though, using an LCD rather than the usual elaborate and expensive multi-laser setup. It just needs to be done in a form that isn't quite so ridiculously cheap - corners are cut getting a design that cheap to manufacture that you can't even afford an LCD panel, and have to instead pretend the omission of a vital component is somehow a feature.

    1. Re:This is stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everything about 3D printers in the last 5 years has been a gimmick.

    2. Re:This is stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now, that I disagree with. There hasn't been anything revolutionary (unless you consider the mosaic splicer), but then again, there hasn't been much revolution in either FDM or resin based printing for 20+ years.

      Still though, it's getting more affordable, and producing better quality. Hobbyists are building machines with output just as good as any commercial printer cartesian conversion).

      There are limits to the technology, sure, but it's still getting better by increments.

    3. Re:This is stupid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it a terribly good printer? No obviously not. But even without the marketing fluff i would buy it for ~100$. Its not much and i've wanted a 3d printer to play with for a while, just that i don't have a garage and don't want a large 3d printer cluttering up my apartment. This, this is perfect, its small and its cheap enough that i won't regret much if its complete garbage.

    4. Re:This is stupid. by JazzLad · · Score: 1

      4. What advantage does this have over a cheap LCD panel anyway?

      I'll let everyone else deal with the other points, but even my 4k monitor (24") has a smaller ppi than my cell phone.

      What I don't get is why so many people on a tech site seem to only have their current phone (no old phone, spare, etc).

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    5. Re:This is stupid. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      I used mine just yesterday to print a bracket for my shower screen.

    6. Re:This is stupid. by oggologgo · · Score: 1

      No, it's not a gimmick. It's a joke. What's stupid, is that so many people can fall for this. Even if it was possible and real, it wouldn't even be practical.

  12. First? by frovingslosh · · Score: 1

    Since when did "doesn't really exist yet" equate to "First"? And I'm comfortable in saying it doesn't exist yet because I looked for the app on the Google App store and it isn't there. No app, no product. No product, no "first" claim can be valid.

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    1. Re:First? by tconway · · Score: 1

      It's not available to the public yet, but working models have been produced and the thing won a prize at some design fair. Just because you can't have one doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The reason that it's on Kickstarter isn't because they have an idea they want to develop, it's so that they can produce injection molds in order to sell the thing at a reasonable price.

  13. If it requires a smartphone, it's a gimmick by heldal · · Score: 1

    I routinely avoid any products that require a smartphone to operate. Why? Because in practice the longevity of the device depends on the vendors continuously updating the software to support new operating systems - this is especially true for iOS.

    In 10 years, you're almost guaranteed there's no way to make it work.

    1. Re:If it requires a smartphone, it's a gimmick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I Highly doubt the 100$ printer will last you 10 years and if it does what prevents you from using a 10 year old phone? Especially if you have a habit of keeping decade old devices around. There is no need to throw away your current phone if you get a new one.

  14. No Brown Title Bar? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is another pure marketing post.

    I think we are seeing the business model of the new /. in operation.

    Remember the good old days, when a mere mention in an obscure SlashDot story could crash sites?

    Those days are long gone.

  15. Bold prediction for 2016 by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    This year will see the first lawsuits against 3D printers (and software) for IP piracy.

    You wouldn't print a car, would you?

    1. Re:Bold prediction for 2016 by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

      You wouldn't print a car, would you?

      Yes they would.

    2. Re:Bold prediction for 2016 by j-beda · · Score: 1

      You wouldn't print a car, would you?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  16. This seems to be a refinement of PeachyPrinter... by Salgak1 · · Score: 1

    . . . .of a 2013 (which still hasn't shipped). The only real innovation here seems to be the feed system (pedestal-pull rather than float the resin on salt-water) and a wider variety of resins. . .

  17. Scam! Scam! Scam! Scam! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Scam!

  18. Re:This seems to be a refinement of PeachyPrinter. by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M · · Score: 1

    Indeed, the Peachy Printer is incredibly late. I've always thought their "floating" idea was a bit strange. At least they're not using the sound output of a computer to control the laser anymore.

    If you want to see amazing follow-ups about the production of a Kickstarted 3D printer, look at the Tiko 3D printer.

  19. Re:This seems to be a refinement of PeachyPrinter. by Salgak1 · · Score: 1

    Looks interesting. A bit late as well, but one expects that from Kickstarters. I should know, first Kickstarter I was in on, was Star Citizen. Now 2 1/2 years late. . .

  20. Privacy Concern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder how much data this combination will send back to the manufacturers? Say goodbye to your great ideas.

  21. and here I was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    trying to find a use for my recently decommissioned S5.

    it's an interesting concept and cheap. Can it produce figures for D&D games on the fly? I guess I'll find out in September

  22. You people actually fall for this? by oggologgo · · Score: 1

    Maybe I'm missing everybody's humor, because it looks to me like you people actually think this is real. Come on, it's obviously a joke. There isn't one single good thing about the idea. It's not practical and it's not possible. Think about what date is coming up in a few days.